there are so many girls playing games and not providing a service which they advertise, bait and switch is a high in the business, most of all clients who want the best but only want to spend $150.00 for an hour or less. To many requests for car dates. This business is more low class than it ever has been before.

When a client makes and appointment they should know they need to be verified 1st, are we the only agency that still does verification, We have never had so many clients say we don't provide a last name or a home number. So you telling us you want us to send a provider without you being verified. They say "questions are to personnal"

Yes there are still a few good websites to advertise on, but so many bring so many broke clients, who have nothing better to do than look for a low class girl or just like wasting your time. I think all the low class girls stick with the street and all the real girls should use the web

People need to start thinking of the girls who work in the business, they may have a family, in college, looking to start a business, etc... Most of the girls in this business are nice girls looking to get ahead, if they don't mess with you why mess with them.

I am just going on and on, sorry.

It might help business to not post self-reviews.

or get banned from the other board for lies

Camille, no he is not and no I am not.

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-- Modified on 1/4/2009 11:41:38 AM

What are you talking about?

I will be the first to catch a girl having a "special"...and there are plenty in these times of tight money.

Then again, I have no problem spending 300+ for a top notch provider that earns her 9's and 10's

Game, Match , SET

I believe the point to stress with a new client is self-interest. Would you, sir, entrust your money to a bank that requires no ID?

As a skittish newbie I also found it reassuring to hear that a provider "shreds" the client's real identity info after verification. Then again, so did DC Madam's customers
 Bartolo

There are still plenty of gentlemen willing to be screened and willing to pay fair market rates for a well reviewed GFE lady.

Unfortunately at this point it it's too late to get the internet streetwalkers to go back to the street where they belong.  We are stuck with them here in cyberspace so both providers and customers (and agencies) need to be patient, be thorough and do their best to stay safe.

My suggestion when it comes to dealing with "Mr. X" who only wants to pay $150 for an hour of GFE is to do what all of the other reputable agencies in town do. Hang up the phone.

Just today we got 3 clients who all wanted GFE with our girl bella, then they ask for a discounted rate. Now we only have bella advertised at $250.00, non rush hour GFE. how much lower do they think they will spend. Bring a girl to dinner and drinks anywhere in the city and the bill is over $300.00, The street girls and pimps mest up this business fore all the reagular ladies who have class and Education.

I have only been on the scene for a short time and till this week stuck to well reviewed agency's.  Never had too much of a problem with screening they are pretty loose.  I just got screened by my first indy and it was a little better, but thanks to a reference from one of the ladies at the agency whom she knew it went thru.  I do think that show is simply not putting out the correct (or real) information and both guys and ladies are getting the wrong impression -- its typical journalism though to try and sensationalize everything.

...That is what you get.

You advertise porn stars and exclusive models with rates befitting providers who are not only reputable but top of the line...on a Rare-Escort template that is largely incomplete.

You advertise a model called "Bianca" whose pictures and bio are of the well-known provider Kat Shay/Ciara of Miami Companions/Gigi's Girls and MilfHunter fame...who has never advertised as touring the Boston market with her home agency, MC, though they come here frequently.

I find it VERY hard to believe that a provider of her looks and caliber review-wise is allowing herself to be booked by you.

As a provider who uses ALL advertising mediums and at a competitive price point I seldom gets nonsense calls/clients.  Clients know that I am no-fucking-nonsense because I take them seriously and don't insult their intelligence.

I think that you are full of shit OR should reconsider your business practice/approach.

Just because you post pictures of OTHER agencies all over the place doesn't mean that you represent them or should be considered legitimate.

Good luck- but if you want the active clientele to respect you you have to EARN it.

Are you the reincarnation of Dangerous Curves?

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we are based in Miami, NOT BOSTON

1.) Your distinction between "low class girls" and so-called "real girls" is insulting, ignorant, and snotty. Not every independent is a schizo, and I've met more than a few agency girls with track marks.

2.) "People need to start thinking of the girls"...seriously?? The most annoying thing about these boards is some guys' creepy paternalism toward providers. Complain about how a girl lied about GFE or no-showed, and you'll get a dozen replies from douchebags who defend her with made-up excuses. What people need to do is stop coddling these girls. Respect them like the grown-up, working professionals that they are.

3.) For every girl you claim has been mugged or assaulted by a client, I can cite three agencies that have compromised clients' names, causing divorces, lost jobs, newspaper write-ups, etc. There are legitimate concerns on both sides of the screening issue. Don't pretend otherwise.

So your telling us that we can not have girls listed on our website that don't visit Boston and that we are full of shit. You just made my point. clients like you who think they have any knowledge of "searching the web" come up with there own conclusions on agencies and providers without having the facts.

Let me ask you this, have you seen Bianca, Have you ever contacting us, have you ever contact bianca. Why because we use a free website we are BS, Our business is mainly through Hotel Concierges, that why we are already established, Maybe not in your world of internet.

Also look at many PSE girls who work with different agencies, do they only work with 1. Just the way you think makes me feel for you. You think you know it all but really you have no clue on how business works.

We said it before we will say it once again. We would like the TER members to contact us, but if they don't our ladies are still busy regardless.

Your a perfect example of a low class client

I'm usually not on this board but I found this to be an interesting thread. Verification can be difficult.  I have been known to put guys thru the wringer with verification but oh well.lol.. I can't believe the number of gents who don't want to give a real name and number.  Yes it can't be risky for any guy but if he feels that nervous maybe he shouldn't partake in the hobby. The only reason we want that stuff is to insure our safety on different levels. It's not to upset their lives. What good would that do us?? Unfortunately there are girls out there that have done crappy things and make it difficult for the rest of us. It's procautionary measures only. As far as the low class comment. Oh my goodness. This past year I've gotten requests to meet a handful of guys in their cars or in their trucks. Are you kidding me??? What is that all about?? Those guys should stick to Craig's list. I know we are in a recession here but if you can't afford don't partake in it. Hence the term "hobby".  

Ana

You are definetly dangerous curves
Same M.O.
How about replying to doing Self Posted reviews and being banned from TBD

Are U kidding me. How many of us go to 'The Intercontinental, the 4 Seasons, or Boston Harbour and ask the Concierge please hook me up with sinfull Ladies. You are PATHETIC

Clients aren't the only ones who can call bullshit on a low-budget "agency" like yours-

I am a provider who happened to notice the fact that you were using the photographs and a biography WORD for WORD from another agency.

Providers often moonlight with more than one agency, yes- but they don't downgrade.

A provider who has seen success with Miami Companions and the agency formerly Gigi's Girls would NOT tour with an agency that represents itself the way that you do.

But now that you've called me on it-
I think I will sent a short note to MC and make them aware of the fact that your site has copy/pasted the likeness of one of their models (illegally) and plagiarized their text.

Ghetto "agencies" and providers who operate in the fashion that you do are a dime a dozen:
You try to scam the system and when you don't get the results you think you "deserve" you begin making outlandish claims (Hotel concierges? Maybe circa 1985 but in the day of the internet upscale hoing is 90% online babe and you can't tell us otherwise with a straight face) and then you lash out with complaints.  If you don't need TER to remain busy take your bullshit elsewhere.

I'll wait for MC, the agency that legitimately represents at least one of your "models" to chime in.

Your "advertisement" of Bianca
http://eroticservices.cityvibe.com/index.php?do=view&p=852279

Versus Kat Shay's legitimate bio/profile on Miami Companions
http://www.miamicompanions.com/companion_bio.php?name=Kat+Shay&companion_id=563

Even IF "Bianca" was represented by you simultaneously I seriously doubt that MC appreciates your plagiarism.

Do YOU think that is good business?  Stealing the text of another legitimate service?

I'll wait.

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First and foremost, safety is number one.  Either this be on client or provider side.  Being a client, your own personal safety must come first.  Being a provider your personal safety must come first...So...there has to be a compromise somewhere in or close to the middle.  
Now, I play online poker and for all who play online we know there is no regulation for this.  If we get screwed we cannot go anywhere for restitution.  Same thing in this "hobby" as it is called.  I dont know if I call this a hobby as I enjoy beautiful ladies...
So, not to sound negative or degrading which I dont intend this to be....but this hobby can be looked at like a third world.  It is not safe, there are things lurking everywhere.  For me, my safety is not walking into some type of trap and walking out not worrying if I am going to die in a few years or have a burn or itch.  So we provide our info...can the ladies provide this assurance.  
In my research and conversations with some of the ladies here, there are legitimate ones that are for real and do care.  For clients, it is common sense in choosing a provider, plus wants and desires.  For providers, its a lot harder on your end and I feel for you.
I know this post doesnt really add much but I have never been a good writer.  But I hate the cheats, lies that exist on the provider side.  CAnt speak for clients as I am only me and I know who I am and how I conduct myself.
My first choice would be to spend that money on a date, dinner, movie etc and get to know someone.  Love is going to last longer then loving you long time.  This in response to the fee issue.  There are ladies on here who have priced me out from ever seeing them.  Then there are ones who have adjusted due to the economy.  Personally Im going to give that money to an independent long before an agency girl in most cases...not all since some ladies find it easier using an agency then being indy.  
So in closing, when reading reviews, if I see bad hygiene, ripoff things like that then there off my list.  Self posts etc there off my list.  Rants and raves...well thats just bitchy.  From your point sinful...your a business you either survive or you fail.  Like one poster said, if a client posts a bad thing they get ripped.  It has to go both ways.
iono my two cents.......

If you don't need TER members because your ladies are always business anyway, then WHY start a thread complaining about the state of the business and how many broke clients there are???

What the business needs is less lying and less bitching.  You're doing both.

I don't really have any of these issues, such as being chewed down in price and so on.
Yes there are a great deal of Gents new to this scene and they do not understand what is expected of them as far as references ect...

My how you have upset the majority. Sounds to me you have been called out on your very naughty practices. Now I could see if one person was "picking on you" but it doesn't look that way. I have not really put any effort into figuring you out, well...cuz I don't really care,
sounds like you should work on making your self more legitimate and proving your trust with the Gents here if you want their business.
Oh thats right...you are already busy! Nevermind then.

....the other board.

The cookies gave you away and yet you gave the same story everyone gives when they're discovered..  


Here's the info:

" Posted by electroman sinfulladies , Wed, Dec 10, 2008, 21:54:56 Post Reply   Reviews by electroman Boston Message Board Main site

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Had the chance to see Bella tonight at my hotel in Boston. She was great, a sweetheart and very fun. She is a beautiful girl and is great at oral and very sexual. She is a GFE provided, one of the best I have had in awhile. The donation for an hour was $250.00, not sure if she offers incalls.
You can contact her at [email protected]

If you want to see her pictures go to www.sinfulladies.escortsite.com

I recommend and I will see her again next time I am in Boston   "

Wow, this thread got ugly.

With the reviews. there is a such thing called a 8 loop router which uyses the same ISP address for 8 loops. So please don't talk about things you don't know. 1 of are girls had the laptob with her and the client put up an review.

Also we are taking pictures from 1 agency and using them for us, please do me a favor don't talk about things you have no concept on, Bianca works with us with 1 name, MC with another name and independent with another name, its call different circles of business.

Know you make us look like some low end agency, thats fine we honestly don't need your business and to make it more clear we don't want your business. This board is starting to be a joke, not the board itself but the BS providers who only get work because they drop there rates and act like they really care or the BS clients who most likely never have seen anyone before and just have no life and want to write BS about agencies they never even used.

Let me ask you this, I posted how this business is falling and yopu get some assholes who just want to talk shit about my agency, don't use our agency, don't call us, don't email us, don't even think about us. WE DO NOT WANT OR NEED ,YOUR BUSINESS.

Know we have had a few clients contact us from this board, this is not directl;y to you, Its the fakes, BS member name of agencies writing BS.

We are all set this board ad other boards. Its more a joke than anything, people writing what they want to write with there BS free Memberships

even if it is legit that casts doubt on the review and on your agency for allowing this to happen. It will only look bad this way.

Maybe you can run another special for Ter members in exchange for Ter reviews as u did b4.
see now, that makes you look bad too. And no I didn't hear about, I read it when you posted it originally... so no gossip here.

Well you are busy anyway so No worries!!!

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What a great agency you really are...lol
First U get banned from TBD and now TER  members are basically telling U to "FUCK OFF"
Stick to Craigs List thats where Trash Belongs

Quote "This board is starting to be a joke, not the board itself but the BS providers who only get work because they drop there rates and act like they really care or the BS clients"

Seems to me they understand how a business works.  If ppl arent buying at your price, keep it there and you wont be there.
If I have a choice between two cars fairly identical on two different dealerhships and one is cheaper.....im going with the cheaper one.

SO dont try and smack down the ladies who understand business practices.  Plus these ladies are based in this area and have a higher reputation to protect then a Florida based agency who floats in once a month or so with what looks to be like ghosts.....Honestly if im paying top dollar I want top dollar talent.

I can care less about TBD or TER members or the girls who use this boards to get there business. 99% of you have nothing better to do with your life than write posts and reviews that have no impact on real girl or agencies who like us Can give a fuck about the boards or the reviewers on the boards. I think you are middleclass or lower. Keeo using the reviews, its a joke like you. I will now self delete our account providing 2 things. We don't need your BS business nor will we accept any board memebers as our new clients.

Have fun with your low end jobs, low end income, what ever it may be. Please also keep writing more about my agency, it doesn't matter all of our clients are International with money, unlike the members of boards who bitch about $300.00 because of the economy.

I'll be glad your pond scum twat is gone. Legit agencies welcome reviews. There is NOTHING legit about your business. BTW, you talk about uneducated members here??? You're writing indicates Ebonics as a 1st language.  

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Everybody should chill out. I've been hobbying for a while now and there is too much garbage that goes on. The women have a service to offer that fills a need.

As small business people, the women have the right to conduct their business as they see fit. As a consumer, I let my feet do the talking....I walk over to the providers who provide good value for $, and walk away from the ones who fall short....(in my humble opinion)

I disagree with the Sinfull Ladies approach. Most importantly, I avoid Drama.........

FB

I have been a computer nerd for over 25 years.  I probably know more about the lower level protocols on the internet than most people, having actually written code that talks in TCP, UDP, ICMP, etc.  

There is no such thing as an "8 loop" router.  

But seriously, what does that have to do with a review being written on the same computer as the poster of the advetisement that is being reviewed.  

Look, I have never had a session where the woman I just saw would even consider letting me post a review from her computer.   When the session is over, I leave, and post the review from my computer.

Every time a self-review happens, the response is that the guy posted the review right after the session on the escort's computer.   Most escorts are smart enough to never let anybody use their computer.   The only women who's computers I have ever touched are the women who's computer are not functioning correctly, and I have fixed them for the wonderful women.  I most certainly would never post a review of anybody from their computer.