Lisa's motivation is clearly to try and disparage others from seeing anyone but her? Lisa you attack people on a regular basis. Are you part rotweiller honey? You are an obnoxious belligerent women who seems to have way too much time on her hands. Get a job if this one isn't keeping you busy. Attacking innocent providers is hardly becoming. As far as my pictures they are definately old. I need someone to take my pics. Those pics were from 1989. I am NOT A COP! I would give a session away to prove it. It is not illegal if its free! Then you will owe me an appology missy. I hope this online board scene is not filled with more people like you. It hardly makes a lady feel welcome.

come on honey....1989...more then 13 years old. well I get kinda sick of guys complain about bait and switch...well if this aint bait and switch I dont know what is..you are a scam artist..period and I dont care about the guys who slag me off here as I get way more emails from guys who beleive in what I say, what are you to say to the nice gents that visit you when they open the door and see your 15 years older then your pics??? come on baby 15 years old pictures..Now please stop talking out of your ass when referring to me as I have real reviews and real pictures...and all from nice guys that I was sincere and honest with... I made a very simple, clear and factual observation..I have now proved myself and anyone else right when I assummed your pictures were from the 80s... You have been exposed!!!

I can't believe that you would post pictures that are 15 years old.

When there was a discussion on this board a while back about your hairstyle, you should have made mention back then, that the pics were 15 years old.

Duke

Kind of sad trying to charge people top dollar based on pics that are 15 years old

Lisa because I am 15 years older, which would put me at your age, I do not look good?  To expose someone you must have something to expose. My stats on my web site are accurate. I did not hide anything. I JUST came out and said my pics are old. I need new ones. You may look good honey, but your personality is most horrific. You are no lady. A true lady would not conduct herself in the fashion you have. I will remain under the radar. I refuse to lower myself to you level any further. I will have reviews trust me. I may be a lady here but I am an animal when confined to a hotel suite. If you were down south you would get a real whooping with that attitude. Didn't your momma and daddy teach you any better? You actions are dispicable! Thank you for showing your true colors. I know pond reptile less slimey. Thank ya' ll for this opportunity to clarify my points.
Post Script: To all those ladies on here that have welcomed me thank you. You are very classy ladies. To Lisa go play with your bone.

OK, she posted out-of-date pictures...  

Does that make her a cop??  Hardly!  The LE scam sites are always the ones with the hot, barely 18 babes.  Michelle's pictures are nice enough, but hardly A-1 LE bait...

Do the out-of-date pictures make her a scam artist?  Maybe...  But I'd tend to bet on the possibility that she tried to cobble together a web site in a hurry while trying to move and get 6,000 other details of her new life organized...

But maybe it is a bait-and-switch scam...  All anyone really has to do is see her once and we'll all know.  That's not so hard, is it?

Have fun, MG

P.S.  And not everyone from the Phoenix is a despicable ripoff, either...  

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You are a true gentleman to give me the benefit of the doubt. You are precisely right. I have been busy moving and I did so want to get a web site up and be introduced. I did not hide the fact my pictures are old. I may be no 20 something but I am not hag either. My rates are high? I did not think so. I do not want to appeal to everyone as I refuse to be like a door knob and let everyone have their turn. I am looking to be low volume is that a sin?

I agree. I don't beleive she is LE.

I might give her a try.

Duke

Not all of us are mean. If you need new photos of your self me and my husband do photos for escorts. We did my friend and BBW escort Lady Lucille photos for her site.  See what we did for her at http://www.escortbostonbbw.com

Call me and leave a message if your interested in a photo sesson  to up date your photos for your site.  508-492-2097

Now come'on girls...why can't we just get along?

This spun out into a bizarre conversation thread...

Maybe some advice is in order, since in my "real life" I've had extensive web technology and web marketing experience.

I couldn't possibly make any guesses as to whether you're a cop or not, I personally think there's no way to defend such a claim without something verifiable in the way of reviews, references, or adequate referrals.  It's a catch-22 early on, for both providers AND men who choose to partake in these services.  For the provider, it just happens to be a public process.

As far as the age of the pictures - can I pinpoint the right decade based on hairstyle or what? LOL.  Seriously, I think you should consider presenting pictures on your web site which accurately reflect your current appearance.  At the very least, disclaim the age of the pictures on your site.  Like I said in another thread, it's blatantly obvious why you're not getting guys calling you - the pictures are obviously totally out of date.

> I would give a session away to prove it.
> It is not illegal if its free!

Post a recent picture and I may volunteer for the task LOL.  But, I reserve the right to pass along the offer to someone else if whatever appeal there might be is lost.  Hell, I may even offer to update your pictures as I used to do photography.  That is 100% legal whether paid or not HAHA

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Oh my god, why do I always retch when looking at cheesy photography efforts?  LOL

Thinking about taking one for the team, MG? I'll wait to hear your report.

That was a big mistake. I'm sure that Michelle has come to realize that by now. IMHO, MG's logic in this post is on the money! Add to his thoughts the idea that, if this was a sting, I think Michelle would just slip away quietly rather than standing up for herself here.

My best advice...Michelle find a friend with a digital camera. (Please, volunteers need not post here Get some current pictures online even if they aren't the quality that you prefer.

This will all blow over, one way or the other.

To quote Vegas Bob, "Pura Vida!"

thirsty

Your Probably still knocking Provider rates also. GET A LIFE JERK!   WHO ASKED FOR YOU LOW LIFE 2 CENTS ANYWAY!

Girlsfriends Don't even bother with this LOW LIFE JERK!

Girl Don't Even Go Near This Jerk.!
You Got some HELL of A NERVE now  knocking  my girl photos. Why don't you go an crawl back into the HOLE from where you came from JERK!

Someone can't seem to take criticism well...

BTW, I've posted a total of 1 post on that board, 2 on the Boston one, neither of which remotely resembled being am "ASS HOLE".  WTF are you talking about?  Seems like you're on some blind rage to yell at any guy who makes a comment you don't like since that retard on TBD slammed you with a fake review.

This is amusing to me how some people can fly off the handle so easily...

Sincerely, "LOW LIFE JERK" LOL

A gentleman of any class your NOT.

Yes I am an all-star porno photographer and I've been doing that as my sole career since I graduated from Porno University in Idaho.  It was either a career in that or referee for Midget Bowling.  It's such a treat and brings back so many nostalgic memories for me when you (I know lovingly) call me Sleaze Ball.  It reminds me of a time when doing a bukkake photo shoot where I asked one of the girls covered with spunk dribbling down her forehead if she recently dyed her hair and she replied with "DIE YOU SCUMBAG SLEAZEBALL.  HOW DARE YOU COMMENT ON MY HAIR.  CRAWL BACK IN YOUR HOLE MAGGOT."

So Mr Potato Head From Idaho Has A Sense Of Humor

Well if you think your photography and graphics  are better why don't you show me some samples of your work?  I'd love to see.

My mistake on that one,but  you still shouldn't knock my girls photos.

What about Angelann, isn't she a little out of control on several sub-threads below? What constitutes a flame around here? Geeze!

The harridan alert has just gone to red!

OMG....what a filthy mouth both of theses women have..my goodness such lanugage makes my virgin ears burn...anyways Viril is a lovely gent whom I just spent two amazing hours with but since I have no credibility amoungst the low lifes here Ill crawl back into my MG!!!

What a fabulous idea, Lisa!  I would love to crawl back into you, too!!!  

Have fun, MG

Lisa, I just don't understand you. You have good, even great reviews by several posters whose opinions are widely respected, your pictures on your website are stunning, and you seem to have the wit and sophistication that would attract upscale clientele, why all the bashing of other girls? Everything I know about you is positive, with the exception of ill considered attacks on other providers. There are some providers who don't act civilly because they don't know any better, but I suspect that is not true of you. You are well received in this community, why make enemies? I'm not talking about angelann, your response to her was justified, IMHO. Others you have attacked are no threat to you, your welfare or reputation, but in at least one case, it was like shooting fish in a barrel. A nice person who is nearly defenseless when it comes to a battle of wits. Think before you shoot!

To Lisa's credit, she's the sole provider who is able to extend my experience of pleasure way beyond the norm, culminating to a grand finale of explosive measure.  And she ain't to bad to look at either  Sorry about your sore neck, babe... hehehe

HB495, although I know Lisa can answer for herself, I think the answer to your question about Lisa is easy:

Most people are too touchy with their sensitivities that they can't take occasional sarcastic humor, wit, or legit criticism very well.  For those of you who can't see the humor in much of Lisa's messages, it's not a fault of hers - it simply speaks a great deal about how wrapped up many people are on this and other boards, whether they be ladies or gents.  A few of you guys do seem to have your heads together about the whole thing.  I also imagine there are many guys who just read & never post who, like me, find the overall messages here kind of funny.  Partly I'm also fascinated by the sheer numbers and mass of information.

This whole business is supposed to be FUN and INTERESTING.  The spastically negative responses to some occasional sharp wit or occasional criticism from people seems to affect the ladies most as this is their business (some their only livelihood) and, of course, they want to maximize their positive exposure, so they can maximize their appointments and rates.  Understandable, but going ballistic on people because of a jab or two is not the kind of personality (most) guys seek out.  They already get that from their wives or girlfriends.

I think one actual bad egg can easily be put out of your thoughts -- otherwise, you'll knee-jerk your responses in a quite unappealing way.

I agree my crtitique of your photos wasn't complimentary.  I'm just blunt, the way I am, I see no reason not to be able to play critic if I want.

Anything I show would be in private, on a case-by-case basis, and not electronically - I never did that stuff for the web, at least not yet.  And this is an escort forum, not a place where I care to promote my services, unless I were to start a project solely for this business while still providing myself continued privacy.

Anyway, if you are pursuing it seriously then I'm sure you have better work and will get better at it as it tends to be art based primarily on experience and technique, trial and error.  It gets kind of expensive, though, when you start building up your tools like lights, lenses, filters, backgrounds, props, not to mention incidentals like proof sheets, developing and printing costs, and maybe even more for hardware/software if you decide to go at least partially digital.

I Don't Think Your Ears Or Anything Else Is A Virgin Anymore

And at the rate your going  it may be long dead by the time your my age.

I shouldn't have shot off my mouth like that at  VirilCzan. That was un called for and I'm sorry. Being so sick with the Flu and out of work over Christmas,and then having my husband catch the Flu so bad that he's in the hospital right now has just been very stressful  for me. Plus all the nasty  knocking on that other board, and that  bogus review being posted first about me and then the rate knocking on the Spa board about  my girlfriend  Lucille  didn't help ether. I just haven't been my self lately and I'm sorry.  People that know me know that I'm not known to use such strong language on the boards.  When I get that upset I've been known to usually  curse in French on the boards,not in English,hehe!
Plus I  accused VirilCzan of knocking me and Lucille on the other board when he didn't. My mistake about User names, and I'm sorry I said that to him,and I'm sorry for flying off the handle like I did  and curseing at him like that. I could have handled that in a different way.

I'm a big enough person to realize when I'm out of control.I'm also a big enough person to know when I'm wrong and to owe up to my mistakes and apologize.
No one deserves to be cursed at that way. Thats just being too mean. I'm sorry. Being mean to people I don't even know is no way to start off the new year.
In the future I will reframe from cursing when in a flame war on the boards. Cursing is hitting way too below the belt, and I should know better.

I should be spanked for my potty mouth.

Ok Point taken.  Your probably better in photography then I am. Graphic art is my line of work,not photography.   I've only just started working with people.

And I wouldn't want you to post your work on this message board. Thats not what I meant in that post.  

I guess we are both being blunt lately, and yes I was flying a bit too much off the handle with you. I don't know you,and I had no right cursing at you like I did.

Does someone want to Ear Fuck this poor girl?! ROLMFAO!!!  

She claims thats the only thing that hasn't been fucked on her yet.  If there big enough it could be kinky.  A little messy, but kinky.

Hey do you have to still wair a condom to get ear fucked?  Or can the guy go bareback?  And what about ear wax? LOL!

I'm such a wicked Angel!

I pulled the email I recieved from Lisa and associated thread.

-- Staff