Its ugly but after all it is the fax ma'am.

Aim downwind when you p*ss...  That way you won't wet yourself!

Ugly or not, there are no facts there...  just innuendo!  I love good intrigue, but half-baked cr*p like this just wastes my time...

Have fun, MG

As far as I am concerned I know that the ugly fax has hit the nail right on the head, as R/S is one of the agencies being targeted. That is all I have to say, I dont want to get into the ugly facts(no pun intended), but believe me it is very true.

Jill

Jill,

I'm not saying that ugly fax has the facts wrong.  After the BD13 incident -- in which it was clear (at least to me) that he was abusing his position as TBD Boston moderator for personal advantage -- I can believe that there may be some ugly stuff going on.  These boards convey information...  information is power, and power does sometimes corrupt...  Add in the desire to profit in an industry that tries hard to operate below police radar, and you have the clear potential for abuse...

But (IMHO) ugly fax fails miserably in making his case.  If he has evidence of wrongdoing, I don't think he's going to win much sympathy by posting unsubstantiated allegations.  It may be that he's got all the evidence, but is afraid to post the truth for fear of retribution.  I appreciate that possibility...  But, if so, he needs to revise his strategy.

Have fun, MG

P.S.  I saw your recent post on TBD.  I don't understand the specifics, but I'm sorry to hear that someone is attempting to do harm to you via unscrupulous tactics.

I understand your point fax, and the R/S post makes the claim seem legit.  As a reader of both boards, I would like to believe what your saying but you have not stated how you know all this.  Did it have something to do with your encounter with alannha (spell?).  You’ve gone to the trouble of posting it on a web page, you might as well tell the entire story & back up the info.  Just mho.

Wow, BD13 will forever be a scapegoat and front for those listed in the other boards Client Database as "bad boys."

The BD13 saga is over and is very old news but somehow there are recent reviews of clients taking advantage of ladies (none which are written by me), usually by shortchanging them.  They just so happen to have a 3 letter title.

Luckily I only had one bad experience with that situation, but it mystifies me as to why some very detailed reviews of being short a Benjamin or so ("Gee, I didn't realize your overnight rate was $XXXX") appear in that database.  I assume that these
were written by Independent Providers.

I have taken a lot of heat from the Board Mafia in the past for speaking up about this (it is like being raped and told to keep your mouth shut) and I am glad someone else has the b@lls to speak up about the ongoing boy's club.

I am sorry you are being bothered on an agency level Jill.  I thought it was just a Indy problem.  It really stinks all around.

Back to vaca, just up for air to see a ATF Client this eve (who used to be active on that other board but pulled his support because of the mafia that exists).  

 Kate  p.s.  I have edited this to just say that not all guys with the "three letter title" have a counting problem.  There are some peaches out there.  (thanks to the Sweeties!) xo


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ugly-fax, what the hell kind of a handle is that? You have absolutely no proof of any wrong doing at all on this board or the other board. You odviously have alot of pent up anger and need a release so this is what I suggest:

Get in the game enjoy one of these girls that you slam and stop harassing everyone. You are targeting people that have done nothing to you or have done nothing wrong. As for Danna Jones she has some of the best reviews in Miami that I have ever read so slamming her is off the wall. Julia, whom you also said had a bout with hotel security or whatever met with some of Bostons finest guys and they loved every part of her.

So in close give it a rest and enjoy the hobby as no one has hurt you so stop trying to hurt them.

Have a good day all.

Now let me ask you a question ugly I think you have a case here from reading the reviews of those you are naming  you say you have proff do you have any thing more concrete

I read the boston board on TBD quite a bit but i seldom post I do always wonder why some of these people posting are very friendly with some agencys

one would seem to think there are some Deep discounts being given just by the wording

It seems like an awful lot of energy for some of those posters you named not to be getting nothing I am still a mamber over on TBD but I think they are too loose in letting all the posts up before checking for shills

I would look foward to seeing what else you have to say

and all the crap you mentioned is why i dont use Boston agencys

I stick to porn stars and very few independants

Col Hogan

Lets just say I was a fly on the wall of the involved parties here.  My gripe is a long one but worth reading closely.

If Spanky wasn't slightly tanked while writing the shill post about Danna and the 2 cum 3 girls he mentioned I don't know who was.  Does he bring his wireless laptop to the hotel bar while he shills?  Oh yeah- real playboys don't drone in their drinks about discounts.

Don't you get it?  He was highly recommending girls who were jilted midtream on their tour and shovelling the BS sky high about smarmy Danna.  I don't care who gets good reviews or why.  A good (stolen) recruit can easily be worth over $5000/week!  Its like the online recruiting rush of the late 90s.  I stand by the strongarming and recruit-a-thon thats going on.  Boston wuz always da corruptest!

Although i have never spoken to or met Jill of R/S ,I have to agree with her that there is some validity to what ugly fax is saying.I can say this having experienced it first hand,and i  will not comment any further.

Sonny

did you have a bad session, or waste your money on a provider with bad reviews?

Good or bad, these boards are full of information. Take it for what it's worth TO YOU.  95% of the time, I have made my decisions based on info from boards, and most of the time, I am happy with my decision.  I have occasionally made a bad, or wrong decision, and chalked it up to experience. Maybe you should do the same, instead of wasting your time complaining about it, or going through the effort of building a "bitching" site".

You may have a valid point, somewhere, but deal with it in a more productive fashion for both yourself and the board communities.  Don't perpetuate bad taste and further question the integrity of the boards. Think positive, more inportantly, ACT positive.  If everyone did so, the integrity of the boards would rarely become an issue.

He may not be explaining things in the most eloquent of fashions. But it is obvious that what he is saying does seem to be going on. It really is no big surprise. There are bottom feeders in every industry. This one just happens to have more then it's share.

As far as you telling him to shut his mouth and take it like a man....Isn't that what these webpages are all about? Providing information about escorts and agencies? Why bother at all if all we are going to do is give glowing reviews and think happy thoughts?

Some one please HELP ME UNDERSTAND...where is the proof?
its all allegations nothing concrete.Oh and one more thing could UGLY FAX possibly a woman or an agency?

It might sound something out of the ordinary, but since the girl only one Julia I answer her phone and I didn't recruited her,  she call desperate asking for help when I had warn her from 2 months before not to go to Boston (she got seriously beat up in Miami while she was answering her own phone) I didn't think she was prepared to start working again, she call me from Boston and she sort of skip the reason just got to the point I paid my own advertising, and expenses, please answer my phone now for Boston I will go back to Brazil if you don't want to keep doing it after this, so I did, as far as the other 2 girls seem the something was wrong with their booking because Julia was having calls and this girls were sitting on very expensive rooms staring at each other I refuse to answer phones for them until they clarified the situation with who ever had agreement with them, which seems like never happen they all return to Miami earlier than planed,  Bottom line to who ever wonder and play with numbers of booking as only an agency can calculate I did not profit out of the experience and if anything I might be able to pay my phone bill, why I did it because I had being in the situation myself and will not wish for any of the girls working out there something like that , but sure enough bunch of very weird e-mails show up at my door describing how X, Y and Z could take better care of the girls and have tons of booking for those girls, just so happen I know them and know what all those hundreds of apointments mean (line at the door and girls burn out in a few days) but who care about that as long as X,Y and Z make their cut. I honestly don't care what ugly fax think or advertise about me or call me names because someone who hides his/her face has not value to me and I do have witness of all I'm describing right now, for any other than the girls who work on their own and pay every bill before they get to town, and know how annoying agencies and 3rd "special mediators " can be, this will make allot more sense. uglyfax or what ever your name really is I have a clean conscious about what I do because I neither take advantage of girls or clients and I had refuse more times than you will ever dream to girls who beg me to do their phones I'm much too responsible and I would rather loose money to get myself into something I admit is much more than I like of stress.  Never 1 of my many girlfriends who trust their lifes to me in this matter run into any sort of troubles and we know there is more than one kind and yes I'm proud to say so I was ask many times by clients and by girls to open and run my own service and I refuse to do it I will not be able to compromise my self on such engagement I take everything to personal and I can't sleep if 1 of my girlfriends need help of any kind  so I decided long ago I will not get involved this way. I teach and advice the girls how to manage themselves into the scene but I do not take personal part of it. All the above come back to me in long term friendships (I see no wrong with it) and people who like honesty and show same to me which I found many of them in Boston and I do not agree with the corruption statement I do see as a weird fact the people from out of town seem to do better than the local agencies I refer now sounds odd when I ask my friends they tell me there is a few with a very good reputation but you never hear of them just because they just take care of their clients and not cost troubles to anyone. all the other are flakes trying to make a mess where is not and show dirt where is clean just to distract people from the important stuff.
Only to set the record straight and for something the seems unfair now and days,  respect the wish of a girl to stay out of agencies hands. booohooo.

Sounds like Yoda to me.

Those are your words.  My point is that I would chaulk it up as experience and move on. Write the review and tell the truth.  Say whatever is on his mind, either in a review or on a board.  

If he has a legitimate gripe, he could be a bit more succinct in his allegations.  He could offer some specific facts.  

It is almost as confusing as SexyDanna's rebuttal below. At least he uses commas, and his grammar is better.

I have no gripe with you, uglyfax, or anyone, for that matter.  It just seems to me that this person has expended alot of time and effort to make a point, and that point is not very clear without the aforementioned specific facts.

Who is uglyfax, anyway? I have never seen that handle. Is he posting under an alias for fear of retribution from someone?  

I have wasted enough time on this thread.

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