I have waited until now to speak as I have waited until I talked with Thirsty about what has happened to me and all of these accusations being posted on this board. I would like to thank him for his kind words and his suggestion that I now post.  I am going to be very brief in my statement about the incident and only talk about what you all need to know.

The word assault was an overstatement of what happened to me and it was Colhogan who used that word. I was shaken and threatened by a visiting client that wanted the same session that Colhogan had posted that he got. The incident happened, period.

What troubles me most is that Colhogan has posted that I tried to extort money from him. This is a blatant lie and I resent this. Colhogan posted 2 times on the other board that he offered me money and I refused. Now it seems he is saying I am trying to extort him. I am appalled and can prove otherwise.

I have emailed Thirsty the thread from that other board that has since been deleted with both of Colhogans posts saying I asked him for nothing. Yes, you are reading that correctly as the thread was copied and pasted before it was deleted.

The question everyone should ask themselves is why would I attempt to extort Colhogan for any amount of money? I have been very well regarded and enjoy my reputation as being more exclusive as I only accept 1 appt a day unless I am offering that occasional day of incall appts. My reputation is far too important to me than scoring a quick few dollars.

I am unwilling to discuss this further as this post clears everything up. I think that we all need to get back to having fun.  

Thank you to everyone who wrote to me with their kind words.

Ashley

I'm finally glad you spoke up Ashley and cleared the air.
I'm also glad your OK and not hurt.
A few things that I found hard to believe and read was why would Col HOgan say that Ashley would extort $$$ .
I have met Ashley with a few friends for dinner a few years ago and she's is absolutly mesmorizing and a wonderful person to hang out with.She's a very classy Lady.
If one were to read all of her reviews they are all 8's and 9's on both boards.Eveyone that has met her has nothing but PRAISES about her..So after all this do you really think she needs to extort $$$...give me a break..

And speaking to Ashley, I do not believe that she orchestrated some type of plot against Col. Hogan. The thread that I read (subject plus 9 replies) mainly consisted of a series of replies to Col. Hogan’s apology (similar to the apology that he posted here). Those replying to Hogan essentially chastised him and urged Hogan to “make things right” (my words) with Ashley.  

I was a little bit uncomfortable with Hogan’s suggestion of extortion in his apology retraction post. Hogan stated in part, “I have been scamed by members of another board...” One of the factors that led me away from TBD Boston originally was a tendency of some members to “pile on” when responding to an unpopular position or situation. In fairness, I don’t believe that was the case here. The thread that I read was, for the most part, respectful. Although I did find my self wondering regarding a few of the replies, “Why don’t you mind your own business? If Ashley has a problem with this, let the two of them work it out.”

In speaking to Ashley, I found a very intelligent and engaging woman. For me, first impressions mean a lot! IMHO, I just don’t think she would have been so short sighted as to set this thing in motion. It looks like a case of people butting into a situation that was none of their business! Some will argue, “I care about the lady so I’m going to speak up!” The greatest lesson that I’ve learned in my 17 months as moderator here is to know when to mind my own business even when the lady asks me to get involved. We can’t know for sure, but it certainly doesn’t appear that Ashley asked for help here.  

Could there have been a sinister motive for those who suggested/pressured Hogan into compensating Ashley? Maybe... More likely, it appears to be another example of something we’ve all been guilty of at times... spending way too much time on the boards. (I guess I’m not supposed to say that as moderator.

When it comes down to it…I think that neither Ashley nor Col. Hogan did anything wrong here.

JMHO…

thirsty

for clearing things up. on my end, i apologize if i added any confusion to the fray. but your honest and heart-felt post didn't quite clear everything up i'm afraid (not for me at least). for what little it's worth (at this point) here's what i specifically mean:

firstly, what happened to this visiting hobbyist who threatend you?

secondly, is it not possible for you (even now) to anonymously post his ID/info to the lady's board? you know, just to help out fellow providers?

thirdly, why was it important for colhogan to apologize to you publicly after (apparently) having apologized to you in private?


i hope there's no hard feelings. feel free not to answer these questions. your post ends with the suggestion that you have no more to say on this matter and i respect that.

in the final analysis however, i can't shake this feeling that the colonel has somehow come out of this (admittedly confusing episode) somewhat scathed and portrayed as being the "wrong-doer" where if anything the visiting hobbyist (who wrongfully acted on the colonel's otherwise innocent review -- certainly not a malicious one) is the one we should all be concerned about (not to mention doing something about)

respectfully yours

For someone who was "shaken and threatened", which IS assault, you've seemed to downplay it.  Why not reveal the perpetrator's e-mail on the Ladies board to help protect other women from this potentially violent client?  What was his handle?

As I read the posts on both boards I had a stronge feeling that what thirsty says is 100% right. And never for a moment thought that Ashley had anything to do with this mess. And her waiting till now just shows what a class act she is. And I feel hogan was led down the wrong path by other posters of both boards.
This is a perfect example of things getting carried away.

Western Pleasure
[email protected]

Ultimately, shouldn't this request/demand/advice come from the ladies?

Certainly not everything that happens on the Provider's Only board remains secret but that's the intent. If another provider doesn't share info with provider community, I'm confident that the ladies will police themselves. Obviously we all agree that this exchange of information is vital. However, in the end, this is the ladies' issue to solve amongst themselves.

JMHO,

thirsty

Ashley,

I am glad to hear that you are okay.  That is the most important thing.  Keep your chin up!

Hugs,
Rose

I'm glad you posted - I'm sorry someone didn't understand mileage and expected a guarantee of certain behavior...stay the way you are!

As you said, let's all get back to having fun..

"Ultimately, shouldn't this request/demand/advice come from the ladies?" -- thirsty


frankly, it has come from the ladies!  i was speaking for (some of) them in my post (in this very thread).  if this community was one in which folks weren't afraid to speak their mind and point out discrepancies, then mostly impartial uninvolved parties (like myself) wouldn't have to do them the courtesy of speaking their minds and objections for them

it's nearly the same blind sight that let us (casually) forget about the "visiting hobbyist" that has led us to forget about another principal player in this "drama" and that is huboo himself. i think it's hardly fair to say the matter is over with and let's all move on when he also owes this community an apology/explanation, especially when his past posts (some of which have not been removed) are still contrary to some of the "clarifications" mentioned

but you know what, perhaps it's enough already. frankly it's fine by me. far be it for me, a hobbyist, to "police" this community. in actuality, it's not necessary for us to hear from huboo, cuz frankly i think we already have

JMHO  (O = observation)

You seem intent on continuing to drag this on. Let's get this over with now. You seem to be one among many of a plexus of people that is intent on smearing my good name and willing to make a great lady like Ashley a "casualty of war."

I find this tactic deplorable.

If you feel so inclined that you need to see the thread mentioned in my post at the top thread of the screen then simply e-mail me and I'll send you the damn thing.

My e-mail address is: [email protected]

I actually find it disrespectful of you that you are now questioning Thirsty as he has said he has seen this thread.

It's too bad the conspiracy you all seek doesn't exist.

Get over it!

huboo

I'm addressing this strictly in the context of the quote you pulled from my post (since you raised some other issues in your reply).

You've suggested that the ladies are afraid to speak their mind. If the last few days don't prove that everyone is allowed to speak their mind here at TER, I don't know what will. If anyone is keeping score, I've only rejected three messages; two that crossed the line regarding personal attacks against another poster and one that vaguely referenced a past incident which I felt would only distract us from the issue at hand.

I respect you Singleton so I guess we can agree to disagree. I feel that the ladies here are strong enough to speak for themselves. As I wrote, I feel this incident would never have matured to this point if other posters at TBD had let Ashley/Hogan handle it themselves. What's next, hobbyists publicly chastising providers who refuse to provide references to other ladies?

As our common ground, we all care about the ladies' safety. If the Provider community has a problem with Ashley (or any other provider!) not sharing information, the community is strong enough to deal with the issue. If not, they are indeed in trouble.

thirsty

you are not "outing" me with that "plexus" reference ... it's common knowledge on many TER boards (especially Pornstars) that Plexus is my TBD handle ... of course you'll note that i've almost never posted or participated on TBD ... and for good reason  

what i don't understand is why are you getting so riled up?  everyone has said their peace and to some degree or another in a rather civil tone too

and you needn't try to implicate me in having in anyway insulted or questioned Thirsty (he knows that i haven't in the past, haven't even now, and will not in the future) ... what Thirsty is doing is precisely the right thing to do:  NOT taking sides .. if you wish him to be more "on your side" feel free to deal with him as you see fit -- to his credit he's not so easily "bent"

you also needn't threaten me in the tone of voice you have in your post above ... that just doesn't look good, that's all!


but if you think that the circumstances around this episode required half-explanations and that people should automatically take someone else's "half-words" and "half-truths"  you must be accustomed to an entirely different type of board and an entirely different type of moderators ... apparently like the ones on TBD where you and your VIP friends reside (or should is i say rule?) ... the reason i live on TER is because it's the only relevant board of its kind where impartiality, justice, honesty and civil reasoned discourse have a chance to thrive

finally, like i already mentioned in rather explicit terms, i am an *innocent* impartial bystander in this matter (are you?). the only thing that i couldn't stand to see happen is for colhogan to get bullied and brow-beaten into doing and saying things that were in my view plain wrong, something that routinely happens on TBD and i would hate to see happen here on TER as well

anyway, just as i said to Ashley, no hard feelings. hopefully there was no (undue) harm done. i didn't ASK for any explanation (i clearly stated i respected her wish to remain silent) ... i agree with Thirsty that we now have heard from ALL the principal players (except i guess the visiting hobbyist) so the matter is -- just as Thirsty predicted few days ago -- one of HeSaid/SheSaid!  

peace out!  

The good thing about this board, no one is better than anyone else here. Everyone speaks his/her mind. As those newbies demanding automatic respect (directed to those from the OtherBoard), that IS NOT going to happen here, so fast. Because a person may be a TBD Gold Carrying member, may come to realize that the card doesn't work here. On this board, you have to work at getting respect by giving.

Also, I just want to say that there are great, classy ladies that reside on TER, and not just one lady. On this board, you will find a variety of sexy, low volume ladies. That is what also sets TER from the rest of the sites. We men appreciate them and give them 100% of our support. You will find that providers ARE allowed to speak their minds. You will NOT find that on the Otherboard. Also we have a great Moderator who refuses to take sides. That is why I love this board, and I refuse to post on the the OtherBoard.

And lets all remember that there is 2 sides to every story. I read this whole entire passage, the original that lead to this. I will say that I will be happy when this whole matter is done and settled. Enough of this he said/she said bullcrap.




-- Modified on 9/2/2003 1:52:27 PM

but i think that some of the people over TBD that colhogan may have pissed off where most likely members of the "old guard" of TBD VIP members who earned their wings "the old fashioned way" (anyone remember that investment firm TV ad that said that?  that is by earning their keep (helping out newbies, contributing to the boards, helping out newbies and such)... as i'm sure huboo to some extent personifies

but it seems that recently (at least soon after i joined ~6 months ago) TBD changed its VIP membership policy so now ANYONE who posts enough reviews or whatever (i admit i don't know and i don't care about their guidelines) but ANYONE who did such-n-such could now become a VIP ... and sure enough colhogan became a VIP member, which i'm sure must've ruffled some feathres with the "old guard" (for whatever reason, i'm sure THEY think it's important and valid! LOL)


the funny thing is (well, ironic at least) that TBD's new VIP policy (you might say an attempt to become more "egalitarian" like TER  ended up "back-firing" in their face like this!  at least that's one theory i've heard other veterans of both boards mention (yes, believe it or not i DON'T make this stuff up folks! LOL)


anyway ... back to your regularly scheduled board drama programs!  

Melinda, since you choose to post here by the alias handle of "Mr.FartyPants" I will continue to respond as "huboo" and not confuse things any more by making up another name.

I first would like to correct you on something. I am not by any means a newbie here. I have made a conscious decision to support this board as I do the oTher BoarD by paying membership dues and not participating here for free by simply submitting reviews.

So we understand ourselves here my decision in the past to not participate here is my personal disagreement with the policy of allowing alias names for members.

I believe that if you have something to say then you should be willing to post it by one identity and not have to use a name like "Mr.FartyPants" to hide behind. I realize why you have chosen to do this especially when it comes to me as you really don't wanting me to bring up past indiscretions of yours.

The respect that any of us earns comes from the local hobbying community whether hobbyist or provider alike. There is no difference as to the "huboo" that posts here and the "huboo" that posts on that other board. Everyone that participates on any message board and in involved in the hobby locally is a member of the community.

What again is the problem here and the animosity towards me is a couple of things that I can make a reasonable assumption are the case. First, I have probably been the most visible poster on the other board for a while now. Those of you who choose to favor this board or have your reasons for favoring this one see me as personifying that board. Secondly and most likely is the fact that I mostly support the traveling ladies and this doesn't set well with you ladies. Last but certainly not least is the fact that I will call something or take issue with someone when in my opinion it is warrented.

I just need to figure out how I am going to get a life now that I am posting more frequently here too.

huboo

TER rules because everyone is a VIP.  We are so lucky to have you as a Mod.  Thank you for all your hard work and in being fair to all sides.  Please don't ever leave us!

KJ Beals

If I had something to say, I would say it to you. I am not this Mr. Fantypants. I don't know who this person is. Sorry to disappoint you. But, I choose to stay out of this whole subject here. I would suggest you speak to the mod, to find out who it is...

Mel

p.s. I would suggest that you get your facts straight, before pointing a finger at anyone here. Again, you can be rest assured baby, that if i have something to say about you, I would be damned SURE to say it in your face and to your face.

I am keeping out of this, that is why I chose not to post at all.

-- Modified on 9/2/2003 4:22:59 PM

"I believe that if you have something to say then you should be willing to post it by one identity and not have to use a name like "Mr.FartyPants" to hide behind. I realize why you have chosen to do this especially when it comes to me as you really don't wanting me to bring up past indiscretions of yours." -- huboo


just because you "believe" in something doesn't make it "The Rules" (it must be a vestige of your other role as TBD Canada Moderator)... same reason you should probably not mix FACT and OPINION in one post, lest it should tend to blur the lines of distinction for those not paying too much attention (but that's a small point)

but the (more important) FACT is folks are free to post as they wish (that's why every TER member has the option and right of creating as many aliases as they wish -- so long as they don't post under multiple aliases in the same thread which is clearly NOT the case here


and secondly (and even more importantly), unless i'm very much mistaken your 2nd sentence above reads like a THREAT!  did i perhaps misread it?  or misinterpret it?  i admit it's been a long day (what with it being the Teusday after a 3-day weekend and all  but i keep rereading it over and over and over and keep coming to the same conclusion:  that you are THREATENING to expose someone for having done nothing more than expressed views which are contrary to yours!

and you know -- this is a funny story, trust me! --  i was merrily on my way out the door to go home, thinking to myself: "well, this whole colhogan/ashley/huboo business sorta kinda wrapped-up (as much as one can hope for), good thing too, it's high time we put it all behind us and as more than one person as said, let's all move on and have some phun!"  ... BUT THEN

your message appeared and i says to myself, i says:  "you know single, you just may get moderated if you don't shut your clam on this one. this ain't your feud (in a way it really isn't!) so butt out of it" -- but then my more reckless half says to me, it says: "you got nuttin' to worry about. what you're posting is quite reasonable and so long as you don't become abusive and comative (which i never do  you's got nuttin' to worry about"

so i says to myself, i says:  "dag nabbit!  i will post it!"

So do I. However, the rules of TER allow for posting using aliases.

WE WILL RESPECT A POSTER'S RIGHT TO USE ALIASES!

thirsty

one last point ... then i will shut up (xross my heart & hope to fly

fly out of here (literally). really i mean that, cuz god knows i have better things to do!  LOL


"You've suggested that the ladies are afraid to speak their mind. If the last few days don't prove that everyone is allowed to speak their mind here at TER, I don't know what will." -- thirsty


you were right, until huboo threatened Melinda in this very same thread ... it's now pretty clear why some providers (and hobbyists) may -- i repeat MAY -- actually "fear" him (for reasons which i admit i'm not privy to)

i agree with you entirely that we should make this environment safe for and supportive of providers, so no one can or should come here on TER and brow-beat a provider into silence

just so anyone doesn't miss the point here -- sorry folks, i don't mean to be so didactic, i KNOW my fellow Beantowners aren't stupid    -- but just because huboo mistook who he was addressing doesn't mean the THREAT to Melinda wasn't made or intended  

frankly, speaking of apologies and being fair to providers, an apology to Melinda (and Mr.FartyPants who did nothing wrong) is in order, IMHO

I guess you didn't take the time to read mr farty pants post.  If you did the writing style in no way resembles Melinda's.  As for the woman not liking you or are jealous because you see only traveling ladies. I have one thing to say get over yourself.  I always respected you as a poster though I didnt always agreee with what you said.  But when you start making senseless accusations I have to question you.  Seriously think about it reread the post and then say that Melinda posted the post.  You kmow too many times people open their mouth and insert foot without thinking.  I guess some people just have a foot fetish

As you all know, I am PETRIFIED to say what is on my mind.  I never cause controvery on the board.  I enjoy being meek, sweet and passive...never inciting others!

The one time I choose not to bring my computer with me ha ha ha!

Would you see a guy who can't stop looking in the mirror or pull his head out of his @ss?  Nope, but maybe if you were young and he was paying you, sure!

We should consider ourselves lucky  

Hopefully the "other place" tightens the reins on the Sopranos, but it is doubtful.  

Awaiting my next call from Tony...hehe

KJ Beals