till we vote for the next US Senator.

Do I dare ask who you are voting for on Tuesday?

I understand this might belong under P&G. But it's regional and heck ... our board is dead.

So live it up.... I'm going BROWN. I'm an indy and like to vote for the person, not the party.

DV

I am going with Martha Coakley. We need the 60th vote in the Senate so the US can finally have a healthcare system that covers everyone and not just those who can afford it.

Unfortunately I am not a Mass resident, so I can only hope...

Peace

I will be voting for Coakley, even though I'm not big on her because the Republican party simply cannot be allowed back into power; they would throw trillions of dollars at our economic problems with no plan whatsoever.  That, and the GOP is not a friend of a website like this one.

OK, no flame, just a friendly disagreement!. Fact as stated in the Wall Street Journal, for a family making $102,000.00 or more, it will cost an ADDITIONAL $5,400.00 a year in taxes to fund this bill.
Why do I have to pay this, I work hard and am taking a big pay cut. I will be Hobbying A LOT LESS once this new tax hits my pay check!!  And who loses when we all start Hobbying less, yes the wonderful Ladies we gentlemen are fortunate enough to meet.

Vote BROWN !!!

We are going straight to the poor house as a nation & Obama has already spent more than all the presidents before him combined. We are going to be taxed into oblivion. His agenda of picking the pocket of anyone that has a job is scary, and our great grandchildren will be paying for this recklessness forever. We are now indebted to the fucking Chinese.

Wake the fuck up and vote Republican!

I have always disliked the legislative and executive branch being in the hands of the same party.

While we can not change that immediately it would be terrific to eliminate the filibuster proof senate.  Bring back some bipartisan discussions and possibly curtail some spending bills.

Here is a vote for Brown.

There is a silver lining in Obama's agenda, at the rate we are going most of us won't have jobs in 2 years, so he won't be able to pick our pockets. The man continues to lie to the Country everyday, and alot of people still think he is the 2nd coming of Christ. The good thing is that he is a one and done President, we just need to tread water until 2013. A vote for Scott Brown is absolutely a step in the right direction. Anyone who is considering voting for Martha Coakley needs to do their homework on the Fells Acre Day School Witch hunt, she is a dispicable human being who has no moral values.

I hate to say it by I have to vote Republican.

Spending in Washington is getting out of hand. There is no way we can pay for 2 wars, the bailout and now healthcare. I know it sounds a little cold, but lets face it something has to get pushed aside. If it's the wars then we are open target for every Terrorist group in the world.(which I think we are already) If it's the bailouts a lot more people will be unemployed. Putting a bigger strain the economy then there is now.

So it looks like healthcare is the one to be side tracked for the time being. I think it's a good idea  but it is being rammed down out throats and that's not good.  

It needs to be better thought out, because once it's out there, trying to fix it going to be next  to impossible.


The Democrats what to push this bill threw as fast as they can so at the next election they can brag about how they did good for the American people. When in the long run they will be hurting more people then helping.

By the way before all the hardcore Democrats jump all over me. The Republicans did  the same thing  when they had control of the House and Senate  

The House/Senate are suppose to listen to the people not follow their respected party lines.
This is one of the reason the government is so screwed up.  

We need free thinking people in Washington not drones.

Why would anyone who is not wealthy ever vote Republican? Especially women, the way he's anti-choice on abortion. Saw the Bush years once, that was enough for me.

Brown has my vote.

Voting Brown to stop the bleeding. The issue isn't which side has the power, it's how much they get. And 60 votes is to much for either side to weild. Ultimate power corrupts ultimately.

The democratic lead Congress have been a a 2 trillion dollar spending spree and what has really been gained by. We own two auto companies that will likely need continued subsides to survive. We bailed out a bunch of banks that gave out big bonus, donated a bunch more to politicians and then said FU to the tax payer when they wany to refinance or dare say buy a house. We have a $800 billion stimulus, that didn't keep unemployment down, create the jobs it claims but veru exectively grew government and extended entittlement spedning.

This isn't new either, this existed happen during Bush II and Clinton. If you hated the Bush years, the Obama years are starting out 10 times worse as it concerns deficeit spending. And please don't say it is because Busg screwed it up. The spedning policies under the Bush years, where widely Democratic plans. Welfare expansion, No Child left behind and increased Medicaid spending where all Democratic ittiatives (look at the bill sponsorships). Bush sold his domestic policy to gain support for the war in Iraq.

I think we should vote every one out. Get term limits in the Senate and do drastic campaign fund raising reform.

Over 2/3 of American's dissaprove of Congress right now. Do you think there is going to be 2/3 turn over in the House and Senate? Absolutely not, because most Americans for some reason believe that the persons they keep voting for are not the problem, and that it's everyone else.

Voting  Republican is smart because NO ONE will be wealthy or able to hobby if Obama keeps picking our pockets, and taxing & spending us into bankruptcy, and oblivion.

Wanna learn to speak Chinese/Mandarin ?  We owe those little fucks over a trillion dollars thanks to Obama. We'll all be eating dogs & cats if we keep the Dems in office-- NOT PUSSY!

My last assignment in my last career job was "have the equipment dis-assembled for shipment to Shanghi"  That was before Obama was elected.

I remember Bush taking pride in his Saturday radio addresses about this country's hightest % of home owmership in history...globalization is good...etc.  Americans were earning so much in financial services and real-estate, no need to be worried about "dirty" manufacturing jobs.

The reason we are in debt to the Chinese now is because they make things of value, and we don't.  We can't all flip hamburgers or sell life insurance.  We need to manufacture!

It isn't solely about Obama or Bush, or any president. The same crap that is happening now, happened under Bush and Clinton and presidents before that. It's the progressive movement, and both parties are to blame (well everyone except Ron Paul).

People got to get over the allegiance to a political party, because  neither has allegiance to the people they represent.

The reason jobs are going over to China is continued regulation and taxation of industry. Never mind that unions have made it impossible to do manufacturing and be competitive.

The Green Movement that is suppose to save the coutry is such a flawed idea. Evergreen Solar which is one of the larger solar power companies in the US, is moving manufacturing to China despite large supsidies from Massachusetts.

You can't create jobs by promoting and idealogy, you need to change the factors that caused them to go away.

Vote for Scott Brown, we need to overturn Congress.

.....and by the way, when I think BROWN.....hmmmmm, UPS...the suckiest delivery service going.....hmmmmn, Scott BROWN, just another suck ass republican clown.....hmmmmn, by the way isn't shit BROWN!

Both candidates suck, it is a no win situation following a legend, no matter what you thought of him....

Thought it would spark local and regional as it's Brown vs Coakley.

Need some discussion to liven up this board.

Didn't get a chance to finish.....

....some of these moderators on other Boards just want you to sit on your hands and listen to the troll.....they just need to lighten up!  

we have enough idiots in the senate

I can't really be called a republican or democrat; and frankly I believe our political system is so unspeakably corrupted to the very core that it should be destroyed utterly and rebuilt.

That having been said, I think Martha is an arrogant and ignorant corrupt machine politician who shouldn't even be running a hot dog stand.

I contributed to Scott Brown because I believe he is the least corrupt of the two AND he will put the squeeze on this crazy healthcare plan.

I believe that anything that would be wrong for me to do directly is also wrong for me to do by proxy. Using government as an intermediary for theft on a grand scale is evil IMO. Putting a veneer of respectability on it by claiming the theft to be the "will of the people" in a democracy doesn't change the basic act being performed. Witch burnings were also the will of the people.

We have replaced our Constitutional Republic with a system in which institutionalized theft has become so pervasive that everyone seems to benefit from everyone stealing from everyone else; when in the end, nobody benefits. In addition, federal subsidies with strings have practically neutered state governments as agents for protecting our freedom.

Brown can't even begin to solve these problems,. but at least he can help slow their progress.

is in charge of this election.....so, if Martha win she will be there the next day.....if Brown wins, he will be certified in June, that's just the way the cookie crumbles.....lol

On this topic, I thought this mock ad was brilliant, and literally more truthful that the real negative ads. WARNING: the linked video contains absolutely NO nudity (but it's still funny).

I used to not be a big fan of illegal immigration, but I think I have an idea.

We should make a deal with any country on earth that for every politician of ours they take, we'll take 10,000 of their citizens who want to come. I'd prefer to send them someplace like Saudi Arabia; but Mexico will do. But with politicians down there, we would definitely need a fence.

The biggest thing I've learned from this thread is that;

Supports of Brown are doing so because of concerns regarding real issues and the direction of the country.

Opposers seem to name call and link  a state senator to bush / chenney politics despite the fact neither probably knew who ho was before Sept.

Add on the series of negative adds against Brown on TV, undecided voters sure have clear idea where the choice for the Senate seat should go to.

I don't want to get into politics, but Brown says waterboaring isn't torture.  Back in '45, the US summarily executed Japanese "operatives" who engaged in waterboarding.

Lower taxes aren't everything.

I would just waterboard that prick, perhaps then he would change his opinion.

have made my day. This is the most activity to date (this year).

I think I'm shedding a tear.

Nite all.

DV
the friendly MOD

If Scott Brown wins and the Sceretary of State fails to certify him in a very prompt manor, there WILL be a revolt in the Commonwealth and all Pols will be in big trouble.  Enough already we already endured the law being changed to accomodate the Dems and the 60th vote.  Mr Gavil should take note!

My vote is going to Scott Brown.  WE need to break the Straglehold the Dems have on the state and the Federal Gov.

Scott Brown is on the list of guys that can sleep with my wife at any time no questions asked!!  Go Scott!

Typical democrook policy. I'd wager if Brown wins ans isn't certified that Joe Leiberman would vote against the heath care sham!

Wake up homer, waterboarding saves American lives. It sounds to me like you're just another Democrat who has completely forgotten about 9/11. Would you like to do away with airport security as well?

Health plan trying to be jammed through congress is a fucking disaster! The federal government has NEVER been able to run ANY program effectively and everyone of them is so far in the red EVERY YEAR and ALL of them keep getting expanded (with whatever benefits they are touting being cut at the same time) and costing every WORKING citizen (and the health care program WILL be covering the illegals - hence the rise doubling of the numbers of the "uninsured") more every month and providing less than what is already available with the piss poor Medicare/Medicaid programs.

The ONLY people that will benefit from this plan are the deadbeat sponges that suck the life out of the country and who will NEVER be productive in any way towards society.

The LAST thing this country needs is MORE government and MORE intrusion into the lives of the working class.

We have become a country of system suckers that expect everyone else to provide for them. It's disgusting!

You can blame Bush or Clinton or whoever you so choose. It is NOT the damn President that makes the laws in this country. (Anyone ever REALLY read the constitution?)

It's CONGRESS that WRITES and PASSES the laws. THEY are the ones that have set the entire system (and the constitution) on it's head and fucked everything up except for themselves AND the freeloaders that will NEVER contribute ANYTHING to society.

Has anyone ever read "It was the best of times. It was the worst of times"? BTW, if you don't recognize the sentences then you haven't read the book, probably never studied history (who need to study history? That's stuff that's already happened. DUH!) and will still be scratching your head and sitting on your ass when you no longer have any freedoms at all!

There is no such thing as a free lunch!!!

I think this highly democratic state might actually be won by Brown.  For once my vote may actually count Yes, I am sure I just lost a few more liberal clients

I am tired as hell of this two party system and the Democrats thinking they must always agree with their president.  BS !  

I don't need a senator who is in allegience with every fart the president makes.  I want someone that thinks and is in allegience with his voting constituants.  

Martha has posted all these ads without one mention to what she will do.  They are al negative for her oponent.  I think IMHO that her choice of campaign ads cost her a senate victory.   I am definetly against a person who has the president's arm up there ass and controls their vote.

Vote Brown

It pains me to contradict you, but here are some facts:

Medicare, a government run health insurance program for the elderly is far more efficient than any privately run health insurance program. (5% overhead vs. 15-20% for private insurance companies). Don't confuse the fact that Medicare is going bankrupt (for lack of proper funding) for efficiency.

The healthcare system before Congress does NOT cover illegals.  This is a favorite of all those fear mongers out there - I am sad to see you have fallen for it too!

The US is the only Western democracy that doesn't cover all its citizens with basic healthcare. As the richest nation on earth, if this isn't a badge of shame, please tell me what is!

If you are so worried about large government, why don't you speak out against the huge defense budget (about 1 trillion dollars for 2010) that is almost a third of our national budget?  

This is WAR, the only way to win a war is to be willing to go one step further with whatever action it takes then the people you are at war with. If they want to use knives, we use guns, if they use guns, we use bombs, etc.

The military can do WHATEVER they want to as long as I can get up in the morning and be safe.

Politically correct is a weakness exploited by many of our current enemies. The hell with PC and do whatever it takes to keep us all safe, including the morons who worry about torturing people who want to kill us. If you want to stop the water boarding, Man Up and volenteer to go over and negotiate a peace agreement with them. I will pay for your trip and your funeral.

Bombing the homes children live in, creates a new wave of suicide bombers 5-10 years later.  Thank you Pres. Bush.

No it kills the wave of bombers that would have been killing us 5-10 years from now!

Yea, we have to be willing to get as violent as they are and a little more, they killed how many kids in 9/11?? We should kill 10 times as many!!

Kill or be killed, like I said you want to go over and negotiate, I will pay !!

say f*** you, to you and all of your Brown friends, if you are successful.....it may be 2011 before he gets in IF he wins.

Funny Howie Carr the resident R f*** hack at the Herald was already running poll numbers on absentee ballots, don't know if it was legal or not, but I think he is still suffering the effects of hitting a telephone pole while probably being drunk last year (he said it was bad bald tires).....funny how R hacks get off on that.....

KK,

medicare is going broke because back in the LBJ gays he transferred the medicare fund into the general fund. Medicare also pays out to every person whether they have ever contributed ANYTHING into the system and that is why they are going broke. I use Medicare and I know first hand what an inept and over employed agency it is (as are all of the governments programs). They have cut what they pay out to everyone except when it comes to paying themselves. (The federal employees all had raises this year).

You are incorrect about the coverage of illegals. The original number of "uninsured" the program would cover was 15 million. It is now at either 30 or 60 and although the INITIAL start of the program will not cover them the amnesty program that will GIVE them their citizenship then puts them into the "fold"!

Who gives a shit if we are the only country that doesn't have a national healthcare! THe other countries are all struggling and their citizens are clamoring to come here to get GOOD medical treatment for what they want and when they want it. I don't have medical insurance. I can get it - but at an extremely high cost because I am a cancer survivor BUT I have NEVER denied medical treatment for anything (including radiation treatments that I will NEVER be able to pay off for a wandering cancer cluster that had escaped the surgeon's knife).

As far as I'm concerned this country gets into more international trouble when we cut our defense budget. I'm a firm believer in a big stick and not to be afraid to use it if necessary. Trust me, my friend, I have seen what a crappy defense budget can do when you are on the other side of the coin.

There is not ONE government project that has ever been run in the black or has ever even come close to staying within it's annual budget! There is no need for them to do so - if they need more they do what the Freshman is doing now - fuck it, just print more!

for you and your fellow republicans I would
recommend deep bodily cavity search -
free of charge

and pretty soon they will have us fly naked
and with hands tied up behind our backs.

The "land of freedom" - he, he

hearing sick fucks like you makes me puke...
if you hate them so much why don't you go
and and fight them.
All you sick cowards are capable of doing is
throwing bombs from 20 km above, from unmanned
planes, piloted from a bunker on the other side of the world.

Since you asked...

Why don't YOU stand up and serve your country!! (quite frankly it should be mandatory for everyone to serve a minimum of four years).

NO FUCKING WAR is ever the glory it is made out to be in the movies. IF you chose to go to war then go with an objective and win that objective by ANY and ALL means available! You don't let the politicians run the war - ANY war!

Wars kill people - get used to it!! (you will be seeing a LOT more of it).

The only people I hate are the ones that kill or try to kill Americans, and I am assuming you are an American kardot. I would go to fight and die for you.

Give me a metal helmet and a gun and I would go willingly. I am 50 and when 9/11 happened, I tried to find a way to join but was told I am too old.

I would gladly fight and die to keep the rights and privileges we have here, which includes the right for you to disagree with me.

Let me ask you kardot, would you do the same for me?

Scott Brown....for lowering taxes..Martha want's to raise them...and they will...Martha is for the backroom dealings on the current healthcare issue...Scott Brown is not for increasing the size of the federal gov't while Martha is in agrreement with her party to grow the goverment and increase spending...That means more taxes..Martha supports giving rights to terrorists and Scott Brown doesn't...Martha supports driver's license's for illegal's and Scott Brown doesn't...Illegal is illegal...Go Home....Martha supports giving FREE college tution to illegal's and Scott Brown doesn't..Gee and parent's want to know why college education is expensive...Hmmm...I wonder why...lol...So if you work and pay taxes why in your right mind would you want to vote for Martha Coakley is beyond me...You are just not informed...Yes at one point the Democratic party used to be for the working man or woman now it's the party for the people who don't want to work...So vote Scott Brown is he perfect no...No one is...He is though without a doubt more lockstep in the everyday working american than Martha Coakley...By the way there are no more terrorists in Afghanistan according to Martha as well....Tell that to the families who recently lost there husbands when a "terrorist" blew himself up in Afghanistan and killed them....If you want any further truth's on why you shouldn't vote for Martha Coakley just google up the name Tookie Amirault.....

                         a former democrat and
                         now an independent

I actually did serve my country and yes the service I did was not voluntary.
However, I do not see a compelling reason to serve your country.
I agree, that during the war nobody respects any rules, so please, do not whine when some guy
in Pakistan makes human sushi of some CIA assholes or that some other American has his head chopped off.
They are just using ANY and ALL means that are available to them to win the war.
And I dare to say that they are not doing a poor job, if the richest country in the world cannot effectively win with one of the poorest in over 8 years and counting.
Hitler's Germany was defeated in less than 6 years and they were a bit more advanced than Afghanistan...