I am a provider who provoked by discussions with other providers regarding STD transmission & increasing discomfort doesn't want to provide DATY as a staple any longer.
I have gone from squirming out of it to routinely declining with the majority of new clients and engaging only happily with those with whom I feel I have an exceptional relationship with.
What is the protocol for removing "menu" items?  Is it just left up to hobbyists to "read between the lines" in reviews or learn with their displeasure during a session?  I want all of my guests to be happy and certainly don't want to deny them something that brings them pleasure during the session that they pay for, but I'm also becoming less willing to forsake my comfort level for the sake of being a good provider or in the futile hopes of maintaining a "perfect" review history.  I don't think that DATY is that big of a deal but when I say playfully say no or try to divert their attention some clients are visibly irritated/disappointed.  Would dental dams kill it for DATY lovers?  I will still provide bbbj with most (exceptions always will be for those who have "suspect" or strange-tasting/smelling members-they get CBJ at my discretion); but I would prefer a barrier I think with new clients for oral given to me.

The thread which posted today regarding oral herpes on the General Discussion board is interesting.

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to some guys, DATY is "their thing", and you will undoubtedly lose business if you take it off the menu entirely. Dental Dams taste like licking a wad of rubber bands, and you won't have many fans going that route. I  DATY with less than 50 % of gals I see. They must be sweet,and squeaky clean, have a nice looking kitty, and I prefer shaved, to a jungle, and prefer an early appointment. (I don't want to be #8 or worse, dining down there.)

I went down once on a perennial 9/9 or better reviewed provider that smelled like a fleet of shrimp boats, or an outdoor Korean fish market on a hot August day. Most vile, and  foul!!!

As to your question about "protocol for removing menu items"-- you could send a TER problem report on your reviews that says "you no longer offer DATY, and want that changed to NO"!  You could also include that in your website-- (that "DATY is Off limits"), but you will suffer a loss of appointments for sure.

I love DATY with the right ladies, and Lack of DATY would not be a deal breaker for me. BUT, you WILL lose biz if you refuse it on your menu. Too many guys go to providers for that as the main attraction. BTW, I don't usually bother with CBJ providers either.  Just my 2 pesos.






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DATY is essential for me.  Dental dams or no daty are deal breakers for me.

If I knew a provider didn't provide DATY I would most likely keep looking. If she slams the door shut during a session it would be reflected in the review. If she said no up front and I still "had" to see her then I would not hold it against her in a review since it was known going in. For me, and likely most guys this is 1/2 the fun. As for CBJ, doesn't matter to me either way but it is more fun to BBBJCIM

JMO

Very essential.

Definately a deal breaker for me....

A provider should operate within her own comfort level, and it is up to her to decide what is on her menu of services.  However, she should be up front about it, so that clients are realistic about their expectations going into an appointment.

Personally, I really enjoy DATY and consider it an integral part of the session, unless the provider's personal hygiene is suspect.  I would not see a lady  if I knew ahead of time that DATY was not available, or if I had to use a dental dam.  I have never been in that situation with a girlfriend and in my opinion that would not be reflective of a true 'girlfriend experience'.

Other's opinions may differ.

DJ

A big part of what I want.

...Not saying that it isn't, but in my mind, I am there for my pleasure, and getting things done to me is more pleasurable to me.

But I guess I am the odd one out here in this thread...

the only reason I DATY is to get the provider in the mood. If she doesn't wnat it - and I can get her "geared up" anyway - then I have no problem skipping DATY.

Point taken, but performing DATY does not only give pleasure to the recipient.  Personally, I find a great deal of pleasure in it too, and it is a huge turn on when you hit the right spot and get a nice response.

Also, although it is hard to make generalizations, I think many ladies appreciate it if you make an effort to please them.  In turn they are more likely to make an effort to please you.

And so in the end, it is still all about me and my pleasure!

DJ

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