There has been a lot of discussion of increased/higher rates in general. But I'm also noticing that there is now an "extra extra" rate for certain cities like Boston that can be $100 to $200 per hour higher than the standard hourly rate in the provider's primary location. Why is a the donation $500 in say Chicago, but $600 in Boston/Waltham? Is Boston so much more expensive a place to travel to than other major cities? There are tons of hotel rooms in this area, but it seems like the hobbyists are now being able to absorb the airfare and hotel bills in ways I haven't seen ever before.

It’s obvious someone is paying the premium so unfortunately until they is blow back not to pay prices will continue to increase. I’m done playing the game of paying over $400 to see a provider. DONE.

but the cost of hotels and airfare has certainly gone way up in the last year, and I know this because I have booked a number of trips lately, and the increase is staggering.

I agree there has been an upcharge.  I think the justification the ladies use is they are low volume

I don't know about airline prices, or hotels in other cities, but I know for sure that there are tons of affordable, reasonable hotel rates in the greater Boston area. I had family visiting from California, so I spent a fair amount of time looking into hotels-there are very solid options in the $100-$130 per night range. In good locations and with name/recognizable brands.

You are absolutely correct, sir.

I suppose, but does "low volume" really matter? Should we accept that as just the way it is? In other words, I'm not asking the lady to only see 3 guys instead of 5 guys a day. I don't want to pay extra for a slightly more exclusive experience. It doesn't really matter to me if it's one other guy or 3 other guys-it's not my business what the ladies do or don't do when I'm not with them and in a session. I guess there is an argument that the lady will be more refreshed and energetic and engaged in the session if they see fewer guys. But I'm not sure I buy that, literally or figuratively. Not every guy pounds away and exhausts the lady in each session.

The most important part of what you wrote is "it's not my business what the ladies do or don't do," which most definitely applies to their companionship rates.

As I acknowledged, it's a business and it's what the market will bear at the end of the day. No disputing that. But the point of these discussion boards is to discuss things that are happening in the hobby. I'm not emailing agencies or girls and complaining about the rates-I'm sharing some thoughts with fellow hobbyists. Why would it concern you if someone else is commenting on the rising prices? It doesn't impact your ability to fulfill your role of paying it or continuing to shop. If we can't talk/'complain" about it here, than it can't be addressed anywhere. And based on the comments in this thread, other guys are aware and troubled by this trend as well. The idea of just sitting there and taking whatever it is that's imposed on you-that doesn't work for me. If it works for you, you are a better man than me for sure.

Have seen every woman raise their rates.  Most are not worth what they were asking before they all decided to charge more.  Even more are not worth what they are asking now.
As far as roi is concerned spending 500+ is a poor investment and just not worth it.

Ok, so you are saying that the same provider a year ago charging $400 is now so awesome sure is worth $600. That has to be the most idiotic comment I’ve read on this thread. Again, you let the ladies lead you by the leash and charge what they want. I for one will not partake in the hobby which is no skin off your or their back I’m sure. Again, there is quality out there at a FAIR price. To see some of these rates to me are simply laughable. If this causes me to retire early from the hobby, you know what...so be it. I will just retire with more in my 401k.

I concur - This became crazy. I'm wondering how much people are paying these premiums. Probably enough to complement the ladies other revenue sources. As this revenue is not declared, I bet that they might be eligible to some COVID support. Also, as activities went down, they need less money on a daily basis. But this will come an end, and maybe thing will be back to a more reasonable situation... Future will tell!

Totally agree, I'm not playing the rate game with these ladies. There is absolutely no justification for price increase. Not hotels not airfare, please explain reasonably the cause of increase and not that you've been sheltered due to Covid.

According to "S. Harris," "We have no business complaining about what a companion chooses to charge for her time.  Our roles are simply to pay it, or keep shopping to find someone whose price matches your budget."

They escorts don't report their income, therefore, they were not able to collect unemployment or take a PPP loan as an independent contractor, so they essentially went a whole year with no/little income.  That being said, I'm not paying the ridiculous amounts of money they are seeking.  I mean seriously, what is the average hourly rate for an attorney, $250/300.  

But they aren't attorney's, they're escorts.

I charge more in cities where it costs me more to be. Travel/Hotels/Airbnb's cost more money in cities like Boston, DC, NYC, SF, LA then they do in Cedar Rapids, IA. It is cheaper for me to get in my car, rent a hotel, and drive to Cedar Rapids than it is to book a flight, fly to Boston, and stay in a hotel/airbnb that people will see me in. Also, there are plenty of providers who tour Chicago that have much higher rates than the women who live and work here.  

I'm glad you joined the discussion and it's good to get your insights. "Increased overhead" may account for certain increases, but you are simply not correct about hotels and accommodations in Boston. The rates are the same, if not cheaper, than they were pre-Covid, because the hotels are anxious for business after such a lengthy downturn in business. I am happy to provide you my sources on this matter if you'd like.  

Gentlemen, if you’re bitching about the cost of your hobby, perhaps it’s time to find a new one. In all my years on this website, I’ve never heard so much complaining.  STFU!

Well said, thank you.  

It seems to me that this thread, or something very similar, comes around regularly. Maybe a little worse now as the very rich may be putting the bulk of the providers out of reach of the masses.

You are complaining about people complaining. On a forum where guys talk about the hobby and things we notice about the hobby. Maybe the moniker "Masshole" would be more appropriate than "MassMan." If you don't like the "complaining," take your own advice and STFU.

The reason why rates are higher in Boston has to do with hotel prices, advertising is more expensive too and the high volume of providers make it very competitive so to make it worth the trip they charge more I guess. I tour a lot and the prices in Boston for donation are the same as anywhere else between 400/500 or 600 depending on how good looking is the girl,if she is a reputable provider with great pictures and website etc. there will always be cheaper providers but it all depends on what the guy is looking for. You will get what you pay for.

There are more than enough touring girls that visit Boston for 300.  I just follow them on twitter to see their schedule.  I don't know why an established girl would need to pay for advertising...she will have plenty of followers checking her webpage.

Your new name is MassHOLE. Keep your mouth shut and move on.

You don't think I pay taxes? I file everything that goes into my bank account. I have stocks, you better believe I file. Stop with generalization. Oh, I've never walked the streets.

I remember you Mara.  We met in May 2009.  I paid 300/hr back then...and was so happy I did.  Go Celtics!
You still in Maine?

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Sorry but the attorney comparison is apples to oranges.   Not relevant here for many factors and reasons.

One famed gorgeous lady started in late 2015 with $350 per hour, and subsequently raised it to about $6-7, before leaving Boston in 2017/2018, and that beautiful lady now has a minimum $1K+ when touring back in Boston area, with one hour meeting no longer available; and her appeal had gone from Beantown to Hollywood to OF/social media platforms

yes, the increase in Penelope's rates is one of the most dramatic examples of the price escalation in the hobby.  I saw her many times at the beginning but it's hard for me to justify these days.

A good example... yes.. but she is now a porn star.. so things do change

She is amazing and always supportive of her endeavors.

Ladies charge what they can get and Boston has a healthy appetite for these services.  That’s also why top escorts tour through Boston regularly.  Still cheaper than NYC.  PA is in a class by herself.

I did a search myself on tryst ranging from 250-350 hr I'm the Boston area, and 109 results came up! I seriously don't understand why you guys are bellyaching over 500+ an hour girls when you have over 100 options within250-350 hr, if you can't find a single girl you like amongst over 100 options then I don't know what to tell you.

I'm waiting for the rates back to 300 if not the pussy savings fund each month will end up in Montreal with better service

What gets me is the deposits.  How many times has a provider canceled on you an hour before and then they saw we can reschedule and I will credit you.  I realize things happen.  But we also work hard for our money and we’re paying for their time.  Lord forbid we cancel last minute…. Sorry just venting, but have heard to many story now where some providers are charging these rates you pay the deposit and get screwed out of your money.

No doubt Back Bay is expensive. But why stay there when there are lots of better, easier, places to stay in Waltham and the suburbs? People are paying to say they are in the Back Bay, but why? What's so great about that location-for the provider or the hobbyist? The traffic is brutal, streets are confusing, parking insanely expensive, rooms smaller. The Westin in Waltham, for example, is lovely, easy to get to, free to cheap parking, and a breeze to access via I95. I realize that some clients live in the city, and Back Bay is convenient for them. But there are also plenty of people who are discouraged by the prospect of dealing with all the shit and headaches when going to the Back Bay. It's overrated, overpriced, and a pain the ass. Stay somewhere we can get to you easily and smoothly-not a place where your car will get ticketed, booted, or towed, or the parking garage is $40 to $50.

You do realize Waltham is hot AF right? Back at hotels are cheaper than the bail and attorneys fees you'll need if you set up shop in Waltham.

Or realizing last minute that the hot blonde/brunette coed about to jump into the hardtop with 20+ inch big rims while wearing her Birkenstock flip flop is way inspiring to your body physically; after yet another barely completed meeting in which clearing the browser cache might have brought better viewing and touching result

Considering how many hotels are in Waltham, I guess our tax dollars are going to important law enforcement pursuits. They are going to have to call in the National Guard to chase all the providers and Johns. Assuming you are right, there are other suburbs and options aside from Waltham. I visited a provider last week in Waltham and it was a breeze. I didn't realize it was against the law to visit a friend in a hotel. The times they are a changin'.

I’ve seen multiple providers Waltham never with an issue. Walk in with a professional demeanor don’t glance at the counter and you’re good. One key thing to have intel on is where are the elevators located.

That’s news to me.

Value is determined by the market.