Cheap pussy does not always equate to good pussy. *I just came back from my "DISCOUNTED" session and I got what I paid for.* 8--------






My session was a cheap thrill. 8-------




I have been utilizing these so called deals and they have been very disappointing. All this cut your rates talk prompted my post. If I could just convince Katy to move here I would never have went through any of this. There are good locals as well don't get me wrong. I just chose to go for the deals.




What we are creating is over worked ladies having no fun.  These ladies resent us for having to work so much harder for a lot less.





I won't name the lady in question because I feel she gave me what I paid for. If I wanted the works I should have paid for it. I will definitely look for a provider who has kept her rates consistent. If That signifies to me that she must be good to be able to command them. I would rather hobby less and get better quality. 8------




The girl I saw today apologized that she was yawning. She said she had to work high volume because she has to make up for the loss in income. She was exhausted. This is no fun for me. It is like eating Chinese dinner I think I am getting a good deal for the portion it is cheap yet I am hungry later.  I need to stop shopping for the bargains. My wallet may be empty but so will my balls. 8--------

to go lower on their rates.Most of the TER girls have maintained almost the same rates.
Yes woodie you will have no wood left if you keep paying 80 bucks .Watchout for VD.

If she averages 10 guys a week at 300, she'd only have to pick up 2 more guys a week at 250 to keep her income consistent.

If she averages 20 guys a week at 300, she'd have to pick up 4 more a week to stay even.

Either way, I don't see a drastic change from low to high volume. Maybe she was yawning because you are boring?

Some providers are lowering their rates to show that they are aware that we are in difficult times. Others have chosen not to lower their rates. Neither is the sign of a good or bad provider, but simply an expression of their own personality, financial situation, marketing plan, etc, etc, etc.

A provider who lowers her rates and then provides poor service for ANY reason, tired or not, is unprofessional and foolish.

A provider chooses her rate: some work for agencies and share the donation; some work for less than the "going" rate by choice, and some offer discounts, grandfather clauses, and specials. Some work for double the "going" rate - or more - and do just fine. In NO case does the rate guarantee any level of service.

In NO case are we creating "overworked ladies having no fun" - they choose their rate, we choose if we want to pay it. If we hget bad service, we write a bad review. It's a simple as that.

why should they be insulated above anyone else just because they have to blow some fat old guy for a few dollars less everyone else has to suck it up as well in times like these. they should have  stayed in school or gotten a second job to get ahead (no pun intended. What about the single mothers in low end jobs trying to support their kids working their ass off or the Iraqi vet with half his face missing whats he got in store for him. So dont cry for me argentina because these dames can buy one less pair of shoes.. save your sympathy for the worthy and the forgotten among us.leave a nice tip for the single mother cleaning up after you in the hotel room or buy a soldier sitting with his girlfriend at chilis or the 99 a  dinner and a couple of drinks.

I've never seen that rate on TER before, but then again, I wasn't looking, lol!

Steph

Conferrin' with the flowers
Consultin' with the rain

And my head, I'd be scratchin'
While my thoughts were busy hatchin'
If I only had a brain

I'd unravel every riddle
For any individual
In trouble or in pain
Oh, I could tell you why the ocean's near the shore
I could think of things I never thunk before
And then I'd sit and think some more

I would not be just a nothin'
My head all full of stuffin'
My heart all full of pain

I would dance and be merry
Life would be a ding-a-derry
If I only had a brain

Gosh, it would be awful gleesim
To reason out the reason
For things I can't explain

Then perhaps I'll deserve you
And be even worthy of you
If I only had a brain

Less expensive does not equal not as good performance.

I have serious issues with people like the OP who had a single experience with a single person and tries to pass that off as the rule for all encounters.

There are many women on here who have lowered their prices in response to men having less spending money who are giving exactly the same performance as before.  

To use a single example as proof of what a person thinks to be true is typical of ignorant people..

Look, there are women out there who are charging less who are giving poor service.
There are women charging less who are giving great service.
There are women who are not charging any less who are giving poor service.
There are women who are not charging less who are giving great service.

In other words, the price does not relate to the service quality provided.

I lowered my rates and my email volume is in the single digits. The times are bad. I am not sure price makes much difference right now.

post right now because I've sent him skipping down a yellow brick road when he didn't consult me before he made the above post.

So, luv_women, just to be clear, so I can educate him when he gets back, you are saying that price doesn't equal service, and that the provider will be the provider, no matter what she charges or receives.  So, just for an example, when Sundrie and Arielle were working for Jill, their service was just as good at the $200.00 and $225.00 per hour respectively (slight price increase between their respective times with Jill) than the higher rates they receive now? I mean, it seems from their reviews that the service is just as good, right.  Hmmmm, interesting concept.

So, in other words, and if I was consulted by donuteatjuan before his post, and if the original idiot poster had consulted his brain, they may have realized that this business is a service business made up of people, and that those people will be who they are no matter what they charge.

OK, I'll buy it.  The only other question I have is what is a post like yours (and Clarence's and rkaslow's), logical and making sense, doing in a thread like this and associating with the other two idiots?  Hopefully, the other brainless wonders will see your point, but unfortunately, I doubt it.

Keep making sense, maybe it'll get through some day.






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First off..I think you are just another provider whining about the competition. Get over it, and face reality..the glory days of high pie in the sky rates are over until the economy turns around.

Just a thought..try and get a real job that pays 80 dollars an hour let alone 300-400!! We all have to adjust and sacrifice in order to survive in a shitty economy. I've had to drop my prices in my business too, but the quality does not suffer! Why is that some providers keep thinking they are any different than rest of us?

Cry me a river, you won't get an ounce of sympathy from me.

Actually I was referring to women who charged XX and now charge less than XX now.   The examples you gave in terms of women who used to be agency and are now independant is not what I am talking about.

But I think that in the cases you mentioned, it is true that the women were just as good at either price point.

It is a single data point, but is interesting in that your business has not increased with a new lower rate.   Actually you did not say that, what you said is that your email volume is in single digits.  

Look, times are tough right now.  It takes the right combination of things to keep busy right now.

An Onxymoron means is a figure of speech that combines two normally contradictory terms. Oxymoron is a word from Greek oxy ("sharp" or "pointed") and moros ("dull"). Thus the word oxymoron is itself an oxymoron.

Oxymorons are a proper subset of the expressions called contradictions in terms. What distinguishes oxymorons from other paradoxes and contradictions is that they are used intentionally, for rhetorical effect, and the contradiction is only apparent, as the combination of terms provides a novel expression of some concept, such as "cruel to be kind".

I think what you meant was his statement is  hypocritical!

(donuteatjuan's brain here again. Aren't I much better to talk with than him?  Maybe he should consult me more.  Oh well)

so, as agency providers, making less than they do now, they provided just as good service as they do now because of WHO they are, not HOW MUCH money they make, thereby proving your point that the price doesn't matter.

So, if those two (and I am only using an example here, nothing specific to those lovely providers) were to lower their prices for some reason, it can be readily presumed that their service would not lessen in any way.  OTOH, if a provider who gave very poor service was to jack her price to five bills, it can be readily presumed that her service won't, all of the sudden, make you want to bronze your dick because you've just had the best sex of your life.

Bottom line, price doesn't matter one way or the other.

why do i feel that whoever is impersonating me is either an old fat guy who has to mainline viagra into his ass  or one of the ass kissing shills that permeate this board

I'm sorry, but my soul will indeed suffer because I cannot afford the art on Newbury Street, as ANY non-philistine would know.  Not only that but I am jealous of ladocque's command of Latin and lessons don't come cheap either....and so on and so forth.  

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Since Jan many girls have offered $50 (or more) off for those who mention their special ad.  I have found no decrease in service.  I am planning on taking advantage of a local well-known agency's "birthday" special in about two weeks and anticipate no less than the usual service from the girl I will be seeing.

The original post in this thread may be from some overpriced woman trying to get her phone to ring.

I don't believe there is an $80 out there.  Hey hollywoddie, care to post a link?

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It's OK though, it gives others a baseline to measures themselves up from.

Seem to be intelligent.


Thank You
2008=27

He told everybody he was. It must be true.

Do you think he is intelligent enought to note my sarcasm ?


Thank you
2008=27

I thought you were serious. Sounded pretty sincere to me.

Huh?  how did I get in here......?O Tempora, O Mores! Dulce et decorum est pro TER mori ??????

Walmart or Neiman Marcus. Maybe that's not a good analogy but I hope you get the point.

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Yes the economy is slow and yes some ladies and agencies have chosen to help themselve and US out by offering a reduced rate. I appreciate Jill at R/S and Sonny at VGF and Camille and Pretty Nicolette doing their job well by paying attention to their business and making the adjustments needed to prosper..1st guys complain about the rate too high and now they get paranoid when a 5 star lady or agency tries to help out past friends...your all nuts! imho

but from the use of punctuation probably a woman. perhaps educated in a mickey mouse college from a white trash family with a long history of mental defect. couldnt get along with fellow workers so was constantly passed over for promotion. knocked up by no doubt a poor adapted ex biker or mixed race coffee au lait . decided finally ( being the town pump for years ) she might as well make a dollar at the one thing she could do either lying on her back or down on her knees while still able to watch the telly. so my dear as you wipe off another load or swallow some soon to be extinct old guys rubbery dick think about all the men that eventually will run just as fast as they can to an exit in your crumbling personal life when they find out you aint geisha but just some jumped up street whore eventually doomed to sucking of college kids in an alley behind a bar or in the back seat of the Prius daddy bought them.

hobbyist who figured that, if goaded enough, you would reveal yourself to be the misogynistic bottom feeder that you are (and now add racist to the list).  I used an alias to prove a point, you are using one in a ball-less attempt to spew hatred and degrade women.

I'd bet the mortgage payment that you are just some pathetic loser who HAS to pay rather than choosing to, and that you have convinced yourself that the women who stoop so low as to touch you must somehow be beneath you. Your kind is one of the problems in this hobby because you inevitably treat the women with disrespect and as just pieces of meat. You're really no better than a street pimp.

If you really had any balls, you would state your pathetic view of women from your real handle instead of cowering behind an alias, so that they know what to expect before the session rather than being unpleasantly surprised.  But I think you're not enough of a real man to do so.

See the rock, climb back under it.

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nice one with the rock... i will try and  keep it far enough away from your glass house

Do I detect a bit of sarcasm in your post?


Thank you
2008=27

I recently went into the Neiman Marcus in the Natick Mall, and saw prices on things that were just out of an normal sanity.

There was a woman's white sleeveless T-Shirt, 100% cotton.   Absolutely nothing special, felt like every other t-shirt I have seen, and could probably be acquired at Wal-Mart for $5 to $10.  Even Lord and Taylor would probably only charge $20 for something like this.   Neiman's Price?   $225.00!!!

In other words, because it was from a designer (but looked like every other item like it in the world), it was costing 20 to 40 times what it was truely worth.

Perhaps there are some who do not mind spending $225 on a $10 t-shirt, but I cannot possibly understand why anybody would buy the item.

Look, I am not a cheapskate, but I cannot possibly understand overpaying by 20 times what something is worth...

what its worth to you that is. Someone else and I guess since Neiman Marcus, is still in business, many don't feel that way. Each to their own I'd say.

I serious doubt that "many don't feel that way".   Stores like Neiman Marcus thrive on a very small group of customers who are willing to pay their highly inflated prices.  I would venture to say that 98% of the American public has never purchased anything at that store.  But the 2% that does of course makes up 100% of their customers.   For example a good outfit from Neiman Marcus would probably cost over $2000.  The average salary of a professional businesswoman is probably $40k to 50k per year.  There is absolutely no way that a woman like that is going to spend that kind of money on a single outfit.  They will probably go to Macy's and purchase an few outfits for significantly less.

Look there is always going to be everything at every price point available.   I am not complaining about that at all.

I am just saying that most women are not at the Neiman Marcus level, even though they think they are.  There are extremely few women who can command four figure per hour rates.  For those that can get it, good for them.  But most women need to realize that highly inflated rates simply cannot be sustained.

As I have said many times, every women has the right to charge whatever she wants.   And we men are free to pay it or not.   I am not complaining at all, just trying to make a point that not everybody will be successful with high rates.

oh bullshit, there are quite a few woman who do much better than 50k a yr thats barely middleclass. And NM doesn't need the great majority of the population, just that 2% who can afford to shop there.  NM is not where the average shop, me included, and a high priced companion needs only her 2% as well. So as I said before each to their own. Shes got her market and if it works for her good for her. If it does not work for you, then shop else where.

Firstoff, I would like to say that we are in effect agreeing with each other.   There will always be every level of woman available.  If one cannot afford the higher priced woman, then one is free to "shop" at a lower level.   That is what I have been saying all along.

As to salaries, an average businesswoman (remember is average here, not some women) probably makes in the range of $50K to $60K.  That is an average, not what "quite a few women" make.  The average woman does not and cannot shop at NM simply because they cannot afford it.   Just like the average hobbyist simply cannot afford a high priced companion.

I am not saying that the high priced companion will not be successful, just that using a single example of yourself to say that every woman can charge high rates is not a valid logical statement.

Look, pretty much every woman wants to think she is Neiman Marcus, but many woman are not even average.  That is what average is..  You add up all the samples, and divide by the number of samples.  Some will be above, some will be below.   It reminds me of the "Prarie Home Companion", where the ongoing joke is "Where every kid is above average!"

But as I have said, I not only envy the women who are able to charge higher amounts, but I also congratulate them.   They have found a niche and are very successful.  Good for them..