My reviews have always been authentic....until now

I've never complained nor posted anything negative in the past...
I prefer to be an attribute to the fun side of TER
I always intend to remain drama free
It seems I unintentionally got pulled into this little drama loop..

I took a few days to think about what I should do concerning this...
I've written a few problem reports
I asked for this review to be considered fake and removed
I don't know if it can be removed
Until now I never asked for any review to be removed
I've grown to adore what I do more and more over the 3 years I've been a provider
In the beginning I didn't know about what reviews were...I provided without even looking at one for the first 6 - 8 months I started working with RSG

99% of the reviews I've gratefully received were accurately real experiences I've enjoyed with wonderful gentlemen

This recent review was heinously written

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Prior to the review this gentleman posted a thread claiming he's had a horrible happening and was now looking for a rescuing provider...  

http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=100595&boardID=9&page=1
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A VERY SPECIAL friend of mine that frequently reads TER message boards and reviews had privately gotten in touch with this gentleman out of mere curiosity
My friend asked him who the girl was that never showed

This gentleman told my friend the girl that never showed nor answered her cellphone was me!

I privately pm'd the upset gentleman about his thread and his accusations
He never responded to me privately AT ALL!

I do not remember corresponding with this hobbiest
prior to his horrible Friday
I only tried talking to him about it after he posted about it

The very same week of his posting about his unfulfilled friday he wrote me this review
I never provided for this gentleman

IF I never showed nor answered my cellphone and left him in the parking lot then how did this experience EVER happen to write a review about???)

The review is here... (UGH!!)

http://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/show.asp?id=76653

I am not a 20 something
Although I am a young 37
I do not consider myself model material..
I have been told that my look is sexual sensual & a sort of naughty-girl look ...
I never showed my entire face in pics on the internet because of my personal family life
For now..
I made a collage' of a few fairly recent pics...
Like I said before I am no professional photographer
These pics are from this year and from the end of last year
In looks...and physique..I feel I need to clarify reality
I am in no way at all of what he said I was
As for my performance and the room atmosphere
All I can say is my past reviews say it all about who Stacy is and what her service consists of

Everyone has opinions & perceives beauty differently their own unique viewpoints...

I wish for this gentleman to receive the experience he desires with a great provider

and if I ever did mistakenly not answer my phone and not meet with him and made him upset
I have already humbly apologized privately to this gentleman and I am NOW doing it publicly..

Since I've become independent these past few months I've made a few mistakes along the way in scheduling I do admit
BUT I will not admit knowing who this individual is nor do I admit having any experiences with him
I am NOT trying to start trouble
I am trying to end it!
Thank you for your time!
oxoxoxoxoo
Stacy ---)@

-- Modified on 8/19/2008 4:59:45 AM

-- Modified on 8/19/2008 5:04:14 AM

A single bad review does not hurt anybody.   This single review will be pretty much ignored by everybody who looks at the large quantity of your very good reviews.   I would not worry about it.

From reading the message, I guess this was a case of NCNS, and he is trying to get back at you with a bad review.

Again, I fail to see how one bad (pretty much fake) review is going to hurt you.   I think he thinks he has more power than he actually has.

-- Modified on 8/19/2008 6:15:27 AM

Well said luv_women.
Don't sweat it Stacy, it means little compared to your stellar reviews.

Fibes

Seems clear to me.  She's saying it's fake and that he wrote it as punishment for what could have been a NCNS. Unfortunately, this is probably going to become a he said / she said thing.  

IMHO, it was a pretty harsh description in the review, and did not match my experience with her two years ago.

I had read her message incorrectly...

It is pretty obvious that you are correct Mr. Dixie_Chicken.  She was a NCNS, and he was angry.

But I fail to see how his little single review is going to affect her business.   Methinks Mr. TheXWolverine thinks he has more clout than he really has.  He writes "How do you say things about someone that are true and will hurt that person both in the pocket and in the heart."  I fail to see how one review will affect her in the "pocket".   Although it is clear that she is emotionally affected by this.

But Mr. TheXWolverine has admitted being stood up, so he pretty much admits that this "session" did not happen.


-- Modified on 8/19/2008 6:22:07 AM

Re: My reviews have always been authentic....until now

Lets gets this issue addressed right now!

We did meet and the review is 100% accurate. I did receive PMs from one or two persons inquiring about my posting about being stood up. The questions in the PMs were very detailed, I answered vaguely to all question except the name of the person. Mods can look at the PMs and verify this. Stacy, you have never tried to contact me!

My post is what was inaccurate; I wrote I had been stood up. In actuality the appointment was so bad, I never really got into it and was looking for another appointment. I did not want to write I had just left a very bad appointment where the woman’s looks and performance were so bad I was unable to perform. I was desperate, and had other feelings that were unfulfilled after this experience. I should have stated the facts openly at that time. I also said to myself, what provider is going to want to meet with me after I have been with another almost immediately before. I now admit my judgment with posting I was stood up was not correct. Instead of keeping it simple, which were my intentions; I opened myself up to being questioned.

That is it, no sugar, this is, embarrassingly, how it went down, I will not address this issue any further, no matter how many posts are put up, no matter how many questions are asked, all the facts are right here. And lastly, the pictures posted here are not accurate; I saw Stacy and these are at least seven or eight years old.

probably won't hurt her business, but the larger issue is the possible fake review. I applaud her efforts. She tried to take care of it privately, and when he wouldn't respond, she chose the next best avenue. I hope it helps her, but I'm afraid that the inevitable drama to follow may be hard to take.

1) First you post it was a NCNS.
2) Then you post a review saying the session was not up to your satisfaction, but happened.
3) Then you say that you lied in #1 saying that it did happen.

Either way, you lied once about what happened.   Perhaps you are lying again?

You said: "I will not address this issue any further, no matter how many posts are put up, no matter how many questions are asked, all the facts are right here."  

Someone who says this is usually hiding something.  I have never heard of someone who is not willing to openly discuss something when they are telling the truth.

Your attitude reveals much.

Since you are clearly stating in your post that you are a liar, I'd say - yeah, you've opened yourself up to being questioned.

Personally, I'd say that if you wanted to write a nasty, insulting, rude review about a popular local girl, it's not best to start out by saying, "hey, I'm a big fat liar, but THIS time I'm really telling the truth".

-- Modified on 8/19/2008 6:50:09 AM

Fair enough, I will answer any questions. What is yours!

And You are correct, I lied in my post about NCNS, and stated my reasons.

If her pictures were not accurate, then why did you not just turn around and walk out?

What we have here is a case of he said, he wrote, she said, he recanted.

I have no dog in this hunt, I just wanted to let you know that a single bad (whether real or not) review is not going to affect her business at all.

If it did happen, it looks like a case of two people who are simply not compatible.  I have had sessions like that.  I would have probably not written a review at all, or if I had, simply stated what happened, and left it at that.

If it did not happen, then of course the review is not factual, and should be removed completely.

I just don't want to bother with this any longer than I have to. The review is accurate, I have stated and apologized for my misjudgment in an inaccurate post, and I will stay behind what I wrote.

If you want to go see Stacy, go right ahead, but don't come to me if the experience is less than fulfilling. I hope she will "pick things up" after the dust I have stirred up, then my fellow Hobbyists will be the benefactors.

If the Mods want to double check the accuracy of the review, please contact me, I will supply whatever info they need to verify the accuracy and legitimacy of the review.

You have hurt only your credibility here.

You have failed miserably in your attempt to hurt the lady, so lick your wounds & move on.

I don't know Stacy and I won't comment on her. Based upon her reviews, Stacy provides a great service to those who seek her out.
Everyone gets stood up. It’s disappointing since you’re so revved up all day or maybe for days. It’s a bummer and it sucks but I find its just best to move on from it when it happens, which I guess it really didn't in this case.
I've walked out of sessions for a few reasons: Either the picture did not match the person. Something during the initial meeting didn't feel right, or the menu was unacceptable. You must walk into each encounter ready to leave. So you have to bring the big head in along with the little head. I think this is where you went wrong. I'm not picking on you; I’m just giving you my advice, which more folks should be doing. You seem to have a good set of reviews and clearly you two were not a match.
99% of the ladies that I have met are wonderful people that I would love to know in my personal life but there are others who communicate poorly and can't break down a situation rationally. So often I find in these cases they give you so little time to speak that their impressions are incorrect.  And I know that the same is true for some of the gross guy’s out there that do not respect these women.
There will be no winner by carrying this on.  Everyone wants to clear their name. Each person’s reputation will stand for itself.

I'd tuck my tail and turn if I was you X.  The ladies watch this discourse and you'll only hurt yourself (even further).  

Have fun everyone!

Well said Sir, case closed!

I don't know what's worse: That you wrote it or that you think we're stupid enough to believe it? This has stopped being a he said / she said situation and become a guy trying to lie his way out of a lie.  Sad and pathetic.

You're an admitted liar. I just think you're admitting to the wrong lie.  You would have us believe that you lied about the "Help, I've been stood up post," but are telling the truth now. BTW, you had 2 other posts in that thread in which you added details to the NCNS, so you must be admitting to lying THREE times (or was that just making an "inaccuracy" more inaccurate?).

You then write a review that doesn't just criticize a lady's looks, but goes as far as saying that she's so ugly that you couldn't get it up.  The description that you wrote was designed to punish, not inform, and you cannot spin it in any other way.

Next, after being called on it, you concoct this BULLSHIT post where you, again, criticize her looks and try to convince us that you were "inaccurate" on your first post and that the 85 other reviewers somehow got it all wrong about Stacy, but the mighty Wolverine is doing us a favor by setting us straight.

Do you honestly believe that we would buy that you made up a NCNS post asking for another provider to bail you out because you didn't want to write about a bad session?  I'll give you this, you are employing the old adage that it's better to be thought stupid than a liar.

You, sir, are a LIAR.  Plain and simple. Your review should be pulled and you should be identified as someone who is using the review process to punish a provider by writing a fake review.

You have no credibility here anymore, and I, for one, have to now question ANY of your reviews.

You had a choice when you were stood up(Although I think you were lying about that too).  You could have just moved on.  You could have communicated with Stacy and either accepted or rejected her apology. You could have come onto the board and posted that she stood you up. Instead, you chose to write a fake review to try to punish her.  You chose poorly.








-- Modified on 8/19/2008 8:31:19 AM

Yes I lied and I explained it and apologized. If you unable to fathom that, it is not my problem.

I will offer, again, to provide ANY details needed to the Mod/s to prove the legitimacy and accuracy of the review.

And if the Mod/s have questions about any of my other reviews, I will provide any information they need to verify those as well.

My post was wrong, but the reviews are dead on and I will go to any length needed to prove it!!

First of all, Mods have nothing to do with Reviews.  They are volunteer hobbyists who donate their time to the boards, and are not even paid by TER.

Second, unless you took pictures, there is no credible evidence that you can provide to establish that a session took place.  Think about it.  We, in the hobby, go out of our way to make sure that there is no evidence of our trysts.  What it will boil down to is your word against hers, and you've already admitted to lying three times. Besides, TER administration probably won't care enough to look at evidence - You've already admitted to being a liar.

Third, you're vindictiveness against Stacy is working against you.  Again, you didn't just say that she didn't look good, you wrote a detailed description in your review that, frankly, just isn't true.  85 others have reviewed her and not described what you did.  Throughout the review, you keep saying that you didn't want to write anything negative, but that is ALL you did.  Even in the "Attitude", you wrote: "Lame, Guilty, and Ashamed"  Now that's telling.  Guilty of what?  NCNS?  Sounds more of a description of messages she might have sent regarding a possible NCNS than an attitude at a session.

Look up.  That stuff flying over your head is the dirt from the hole you keep digging deeper and deeper.  Once you try to lie your way out of a lie, you are fried.

-- Modified on 8/19/2008 10:05:11 AM

Date, time, room number, clothes worn, hotel name and city location, specific facts from discussions between her and I. I can provide MUCH evidence that the meeting took place. So your second point is blown away.

I gave the review the details TER requires to accept ANY review, whether it is good or bad, that is it, bottom line. You are correct, I did not want to write it, but I did. Bad reviews happen, accept it, bad meetings happen, accept it. AND if my description isn't true, tell Stacy to post a CURRENT picture and we will let the rest of TER be the judge. So your third point is wasted.

Look up, thats your own bullshit you see flying by. I am not going to let this go, I wrote an accurate and DETAILED review, period. And I will do WHATEVER is needed to prove it!!

"That is it, no sugar, this is, embarrassingly, how it went down, I will not address this issue any further, no matter how many posts are put up, no matter how many questions are asked, all the facts are right here."

I don't know what planet you are from, but here on Earth when we tell a lie and then tell another lie to explain the first lie, people TEND to stop believing us. Then when we make a statement like the one above and then proceed to respond to EVERY SINGLE POST that ensues, our credibility tends to slip into a deeply negative range. Guy, you are really making yourself look bad here.

When I read your review, I'm offended and I don't even know Stacy, never met her. It's rude and insulting and your pseudo-sensitive comments about gee, how do I go about saying something that might hurt somebody? and then calling her ugly and smelly - make you sound like a petulant child. In the context of her other reviews and her presence on this board, no one will believe you. Even if there is some truth to what you wrote - even if she's not as "pretty as her pictures", even if you caught her on a really bad day, even if 85 other guys are lying through their teeth - no one will believe you.

This isn't about a bad review.  It's about a fake review.  The lady says it didn't happen and you say it did.  You are an admitted liar, she is not. We can only believe her.

Every piece of "evidence" will only work if the lady verifies them, and she's not going to do that because she's saying she never saw you.  That's why your promise to prove it is an empty promise.

You didn't have to use words like "discolored" "sunken" or "sag" in your review for it to be accepted.  You also didn't have to characterize her looks the way you did.  There is no requirement for what is put into the "Attitude" field, so you chose to write what you did, not TER.

I have no connection to Stacy other than seeing her about two years ago.  I don't care if she gets a valid bad review if that's what comes out of a valid session with a truthful hobbyist.  In your review, you, ironically, made an assertion regarding the trustworthiness of the TER review system.  My only concern here is that you seem to have violated that system in an effort to circumvent the prohibition that TER has against NCNS reviews and to punish a provider.

When I first read Stacy's post this morning, I honestly thought (and hoped) that your version would include a reasonable explanation regarding the NCNS post, such as a claim that she wasn't the provider you were posting about, or something like that.  When I actually read your review though, I starting having my doubts because it was written to hurt, not inform; suggesting that you were pissed rather than disappointed.  When you ultimately posted your response to Stacy, I then knew you were full of shit because I don't think anyone able to post on the internet would be stupid enough to:

make up a NCNS post while asking for action because they thought other providers wouldn't be willing to see him after a disappointing session with another.

When it's out there like that, doesn't it just look like the lamest thing in the world?  Again, lying your way out of a lie is a path to ruin.

Keep digging brother.

Re: My reviews have always been authentic....until now

I guess we should ask which Stacy did he see...
Stacy on CL   http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/ers/802710509.html

or Stacy formally of Room service... who is the one who is suffering through all of this!!

Old timers might notice I haven't posted on this Board in a very long time. That's because I've become close friends with a couple of providers and no longer have any need to consult reviews.
A friend alerted me to this Review controversy, which is why I've logged back in now.

I've kept in touch with Stacy for maybe three years now.  I feel I have to write this now, for the record here:

In my opinion, Stacy is one of the most lovely women, both physically and mentally and spiritually, a man could ever know.

Believe it or not, I'm not doubting TheXWolverine's report of his experience nor his honesty at all. What he wrote may very well have been and be a genuine report of his own disappointed feelings.  Many people can look at the very same thing or person, but have entirely different personal reactions.

My only advice t readers is: if have any doubts about Stacy, please arranage a visit with her.
I think the chances are, based upon my own long friendship with her, but mainly upon the overwhelming 'preponderance of the evidence' of her consistently fine reviews over many years: you're going to be extremely happy if you suspend TheXWolverine's opinion of her and go judge her for yourself.

I have never known anyone who exhibits such focused determination to help a man as Stacy.  She really, maybe even desperately, wants to please. She's told me she gets huge satisfaction out of trying to give each man 'the best sexual experience of his life'. I totally believe her.

She's through and through a dedicated *professional*, in the very best sense of the word.  In this profession, that takes a lot of self-knowledge and courage. I admire her greatly.

Stacy, may I, please (perhaps on behalf of all the men here who have known you for a long while) take this opportunity to write you here a little Thank You note.

God 'broke his mold' when he made you, Stacy.

Thanks..

Mr. Xwolverine probably is a fine person (like most of the people on TER are).  

My only complaint about him was to write a review that plainly was mean and meant to hurt her, which he plainly said in his review.  To do that is just plainly wrong.

Look, I have had encounters where things just did not work out.   She was not my type, or did not do anything for me at all.  We all have had that.  That is fine.

To write as mean a review though as he did is just plain stupid and wrong.   To think that his single bad review is going to make any difference in her business is living in fantasyland (which I guess we all do anyways).

As I have said many times, it is not what you say, but how you say it that makes a difference.   If he had written that she was not his type, and he did not enjoy the session, then we would not be having this discussion.

...But many people do not seem to understand that, and only will refer to their dealings with a person as evidence as to how that person will behave with everybody else.

I use the example of a person at a bar or restaurant to see how a person really deals with people.   I have seen many people who others think is a great person treat waiters, and other service workers like one step below shit.  I am not referring to anybody in this thread at all, just mentioning it as an example of how people can be different among different people.

As I said I know neither of these people.

Seems kind of strange someone posts that he was stood up and the next sentence writes a review???

I just wanted to post my support to Stacy. I have seen her several times over the past year or so. She has been absolutely the most fun experience I have ever had and that is why I keep seeing her. She is a really sweet person to boot. So if you want to be treated right go see her!!

Stacy, as others have said, no one will pay any attention to this review. When I read reviews about someone new I tend to ignore the extreme ones as fake both too good to be true and out right lies. You have pages of great reviews so it is obvious this one doesn't fit.

Camille has hit the nail on the head. This is a review board and website. It is in the name. If you don't understand that and cannot deal with that whomever the parties maybe, then consider that you may be in the wrong line of work. Of course this is an extremely sensitive business on both sides of the isle for a multitude of reasons but if you don't have common sense or a thick enough skin then you really need to reconsider your participation.

Appointments with Stacy are to be cherrished - she has always been great to me.  I have had a hard time getting an appointment with her since she left RSG, though.  But...I'll keep trying!

Stacy - don't let that one review bother you.  I'm sure there will be a flurry of GREAT reviews for you soon - just being who you always are.

I hope one day we'll meet and I make as good as impression on you as Wolverine did.

My biggest issue with this mess is that Stacy specifically stated that she did not provide for this guy.  So, if the review is real, she's either lying or grossly mistaken. I don't think it's either.  In reading the review, I am comfortable with the notion that she's not mistaken because I think it would have been unique enough to remember within the past two weeks.  I'm also very much not willing to accept that she's lying.  

To me, besides the admission to lying, the harshness and the rudeness of his description indicates that he had another motive to write the review. Namely, punishment for a NCNS.  It's not that he didn't find her appealing.  Your right, that's subjective. It's that he needed to slam her about it, which is not only uncalled for, but also tells me that there's something there beyond just a review.

Just because a guy writes a fake review does not mean that he doesn't have accurate ones.  There was a pretty well respected poster here a few weeks ago who lost all of his reviews and may very well have been banned.  He wrote some fake reviews.  Some of his reviews were obviously very real and accurate, and the fake ones did not change that accuracy.  However, he wrote fake ones just the same.

Camille, I've always enjoyed your posts and personality on the board, and I very much respect your opinion whether it disagrees with mine or not.  It would be a very boring board without some diverse opinions.

Good Luck

and I even agree that in the normal course of events, with a relatively vanilla description of a typical session, it would be very easy not connect a particular client with his TER handle.  In this case, however, the actual events described as happening during the session, IMHO, would have stood out enough to be memorable.  Even if she didn't know the TER handle of a guy, I think that she would have been able to remember if what he wrote was true. Given what the other 85 reviewers have written, I doubt what he wrote could happen often enough for her to either not to be able to remember it, or consider it so normal that it blends with other sessions.

Since this is a public board, I cannot paste the most pertinent parts of the review from the VIP section to illustrate what I mean, but I encourage you to read the review again and decide whether you would have remembered whether or not that session ever even happened at all.  Because that's the point really: did it really happen; Not who did it happen with?

Good luck

What you are basically saying is that since this person gave you a great review there is absolutely no way that he could have given someone else a bad review.

That simply makes no sense.

I preface my response with  "I think or My interpretation" and also this thread is not about Camille but she is making this an interesting discussion of a very relevant topic on the board that is a reoccurring theme.

My sense from Camille's response is that her impressions of Wolverine based upon her interpretation of his review of her and her impressions of him based upon their time spent together is that he seems genuine and truthful. Obviously she only has so much to base this assumption off of but this is her understanding and belief. It’s not so different from anyone else in any other situation. This is how humans come to a decision. It is based off of experiences, facts and credibility of hearsay. Sometimes we are right and sometimes we are wrong.

I will not stand for anyone even remotely hinting that Camille's integrity is less than stellar. How can I back up what I just said, I probably cannot, but I will continue to post under anyone who questions Camille.

I initially did not want her to get involved, but later accepted her offer, now I regret it. For whatever reason, you people are just flat out unwilling to accept this meeting happened. IT DID!!!!  AND I WILL SHARE ANY FACTS TO PROVE IT!!!

So please leave Camille out of this, if you choose not to believe me, so be it, but do not question Camille, she is beyond reproach!!

And lastly, I asked Stacy to post a current picture, I am still waiting!!!

Huh?
  All I posted was that she said that she had a good encounter with you, and that you gave her a good review.   I then said that she believes that you are a good person.  There is nothing wrong with that.  The only issue I have is her belief that since you gave her a good review, therefore the other review in question cannot possibly be wrong.

Her opinion on you is correct for her viewpoint, and that is nothing that should change.

What some here have as a problem with you Mr. TheXWolverine is that the way you went about this whole thing was wrong.  First you admitted you lied about the NCNS, and wrote a review about something that you first said was a NCNS.  Do you understand why people are wondering about YOU?  Not Camille.   She is not the one who has done anything wrong here at all.

But she is defending you, so she is now part of this situation.

nobody has questioned her integrity in any way.

For you to lecture about respect to a lady is ridiculous. Did you even read your own review? Beyond being presumably fake, it was mean, disrespectful, insulting, and clearly designed to hurt the lady.

Get a grip pal.

Camille is a big girl and can handle herself (And by that I don't mean BBW ). No one is attacking her. Quite the contrary, she inspired a good discussion.

Re: My reviews have always been authentic....until now

Does any one dare write a bad review on this website?  If any "bad review" can get taking down through the whining process how authentic can it be?  Seems as if these sort of threads are commonplace.