And he sure knows how to pick them.So if your looking for a good GFE just ask Dino.He knows.
I called one of the services that sends women to Boston from New York last night...I've had a couple of not great experiences so I decided that I would delicately try to make sure that the woman offered what I was looking for...so I asked the operator if the woman in question was a GFE...she became irate at me and explained that that is an inappropriate question and that I should never call this service again and then hung up on me.
Now, I know that you shouldn't ask explicit questions etc. but I thought asking if a provider was GFE was an ok thing...especially since the provider has yet to be reviewed...am I off base on this?
The kicker is that the girl was really hot and I wanted to see her...I made an appointment with someone else and had a great time but this morning after thinking about what happened I thought I'd ask for consensus.
As far as I am concerned, your question was totally valid and reasonable. The lady/companion in question was either new or maintaining low visibility, had received no reviews that you could spot and so you asked a simple question re: her "sharing" ablility. Only problem was the "agency" was either bad or the girl at the end of the agency tele line was dumb...
In any case, you arrive at the sacred door entitled "YMMV"...if reviews stated one relatively consistent message...that would be money in the bank...more or less...still no guarantees! But when I have asked the GFE question either directly to a provider or an agency, the answers sometime vary. For example...Alison at Taylors Elite in Miami or Miami Companions is very honest and candid with me re the ladies "interests" and I know generally what is on the dinner menu...and dessert is virtually always offered! And some ladies are quite forthcoming and upfront and state the menu options...others back away from the GFE+ commitment and maybe rightfully so...they don't want to get in a bad corner (they want to protect themselves) or they don't want to heighten your expectations and then have you walk away unfulfilled. Most ladies, from my experience, prefer playing it a tad "safe" and then, depending on the chemistry and mutual good feeling, open up, become relaxed and comfortable and let the encounter and their energy/enthusiasm take you over the top! Just my $.02!
And he sure knows how to pick them.So if your looking for a good GFE just ask Dino.He knows.
Any agency or independent provider that responds to a legitimate question such as yours in the fashion that you described is forgetting that this hobby is a service related one. With the downturn in the economy and hobbyists having less disposable income than in previous years, you would think these people would be doing everything they can to make our experience more enjoyable rather than making us feel they are doing us a favor.
Sounds to me like you made the right decision by going elsewhere.
you didn't really do anything wrong, sounds like she overreacted - BUT - it IS kind of a dumb question. what's she gonna say? "oh no sir, this girl is not a GFE, she's real nasty......"
there have been some long threads here about the definition of a GFE, but the bottom line is that the term does NOT have one definite meaning... so what have you learned about the girl if they say "yes"? and when you ask a person or agency that does not know you if a girl is a "GFE" (or drop any other codes or initials) you start to sound like, at best, a rookie, and at worst, LE.
and my absolute bottom line: if you make a date with a girl who has no reviews, you are taking one for the team. it might be great and it might be awful, but there are no questions that you can ask beforehand that will guarantee you a good time.
I am in total disagreement with your statement that it was a dumb question. It seems to be an age old topic of discussion on these boards. Just because a provider is not GFE doesn't mean that she is nasty. Many of us go by the St. Bart scale which is pretty clearly defined. Some girls don't offer certain services and I think it serves them well to be up front about it when asked. There is nothing wrong with asking a tactful question or two before dropping 3 or 4 hundred dollars in a personal services transaction. There are plenty of agencies and indies that answer these type of questions so why bother dealing with one who won't. The only dumb question is the one you don't ask.
i didn't mean it as insult or criticism, sorry.
what i'm trying to say is this: you say that some will discuss things like GFE over the phone, and some are very honest about it. fine, i don't disagree. but there are also lots of girls who advertise GFE who are not.
the reason you are asking the question "are you/is she" GFE is that you do not know anything about the service. if they say, "yes she is/i am" GFE, what have you learned? i say, nothing. you might have a great time, you might get ripped off, or anything in between.
the ONLY time GFE means anything is when we hobbyists say it to each other, or when a well-known and well-reviewed provider like megan says it. i believe that telling a newcomer to the hobby to believe what an unknown provider says in her ad or on the phone is bad advice.
Asking if someone is a GFE is definately ok...but I can see were a agency might get nervous.....becareful..most agencies say everyone is A GFE and they are not...I answer those type questions readily...but..you would be surprised how many people ask INDEPT questions..like "so will i get a bj" hello... I wont see anyone that asks such questions outright..thats why we have reviews .. I tell them to read them and all there questions will be answered...and also alot of girls are not GFE and have NO problem saying they are not..I am..but some friends I have madein the business are definately not and they dont care... they think its gross... I personally think they are in the wrong business..lol..and I tell them that
..Ive had the flu all week so I have had too much time to post ..![]()
Thanks everyone for your feedback...I guess I'll keep asking the question or just call sexyMegan...as I've been meaning to do ![]()
Thanks again.
I have been told by criminal attorneys that if you use "code" words that are universally known that it is no different than coming right out and saying will she do x, y, and z implying "sex for a fee" by the girl and hence pandering on the part of the agency-illegal and punishable in MA-as we know, the agencies protect themselves by claiming they are just giving out referrals and that whatever the girls do is their business...and hence if they have their S--- together, they will not answer such questions-I personally would not work for a place that talked so openly, as I would be in fear of the place being popped...and as has been visited many many times cops DO NOT have to identify themselves as law enforcement-if they did, there would be no such thing as undercover work ![]()