No matter how long I live....I will never understand some people's obsession with bringing shit up over and over and over and over.....and over complicating the absolute FUCK out the the smallest most meaningless BULLSHIT.

Here's the deal:
Some ladies have web forms.
Some ladies don't.
Some guys don't mind filling them out.
Some guys do.

If you don't want to fill out the form......THEN FUCKING DON'T AND MOVE ON.

Is it really any more complicated than that??

I'd say everyone just needs to relax and go get laid.....but some people are too dumb to fuck.

Now maybe we can find another old tired topic to drive into the ground yet again.....and bring out all the aliases.

Actually I can think of worse comparisons than being compared to DD. If you hadn't noticed, a lot of people think he is an asshole too. lol

but I cannot count the number of employment verifications I have provided for friends over the last couple of decades, several of them for provider friends who needed "legitimate" employment. lol

Point is, LE has the resources to fake employment without breaking a sweat, as does any ax murderer that is bent on doing you harm.

There are a thousand arguments on both sides of the issue, I am not going to convince to to change your screening methods any more than you are going to convince me to start filling out those insipid little forms. Even a shit disturber like me is getting bored with the subject. How about another post about NCNS instead?

We had a great thread a few days ago about Web forms used for screening and much good discussion and information was presented.  I am most curious about the comments from guys regarding giving their employment information, and I believe that was one of the most recurring sub-plots in the thread, but didn't notice any Providers speaking directly to the necessity of seeking a potential client's employment information.  

I, for one, would never give my employment information to a Provider as part of a screening process and have written scores of reviews and seen probably 5-10 times as many Providers as I have reviews.

My questions for both hobbyist and provider:  Guys, why in the world would you put yourself at such risk by providing this information?  Ladies, what extra protection does this provide you?  Is this really for screening or for protection later "in case you need that information some day"?   I've been playing in this hobby for many years and this is a fairly recent phenomena.  

This Board should be called:  What can I complain about next:  Donations, Screening, what's next???  Give it a rest already

I gave it out quite a bit to ladies who presented themselves as established and professional, and there was never an incident as a result of me doing so - and I was a high level exec for a very well known company.  The thing that got me shitcanned, ironically, was banging low level employees.  

Do what's comfortable for you, but I don't have a problem with it.

I had a provider tell me that they do it so that they can call the number provided to ascertain that the individual is working for a legitimate company. But that is a very poor argument because many hobbiests do not have traditional jobs that have a phone number that is identified with the employer.

As someone familiar with things like employment verification I know of dozens of ways that an individual (viz. LE) can game this method. In fact, it should be considered a highly undesirable method of verification because it really doesn't prove anything except that a telephone number can be called and rings. Big deal. In fact, such a method would almost certainly result in calls to LE that would be interpretted as a valid person. It is a good way for a provider to get in trouble very quickly.

Don't give it if you don't want to,  and move the F@*$ on!  YOur post is annoying as this would not even apply to someone with strong references.  You have a good alias as these post are deja vu---whaaa whaaa....cry me a river.   If you want to get a cry baby untion started: use your real fake name...lol

There have been plenty of incidences of Providers outing clients to their employer and/or spouse because a guy was stupid enough to give that information to a Provider.

Do YOU give your real name, address, and other employment to a guy you've never seen?  No, I didn't think so.  Why not? Are you paranoid?  Probably not - just not as stupid as guys who turn over this information for a little pussy.  It's crazy I tell ya!

By the way, here's some friendly advice:  learn the difference between Your and You're.  :^)

I always "Banged" Up The Food Chain-Not down-doin' the bosses admin assistant is the pinnacle-!!  Never got into trouble with that logic-even when I got to the VP level !!

Which I doubt. Sometimes it is better to keep your mouth shut and hands off the little toys you type!

Would you "first" complete your own "web form" with your own information and send it to a prospective client?  Would you provide a copy of your drivers license to a prospective client or let him see it?

In the very looooooong thread to which you refer - at least one provider did actually respond directly to the issue you raised - again - with this thread.

Just a question - how are you personally affected by the actions of other guys in giving screening info?  Since you are so well established as a hobbyist, you are obviously not asking these questions to gain information personally.

Please note:  this is not a challenge, merely a request for information.

Have a nice day.

finally the voice of searing simple blunt sledgehammer truth......... GaGambler has been reincarnated !

Your questions are well stated ....

My ultimate point is that if enough guys grew the balls and wised up to this unnecessary intrusion and refused to give employment information, it would cease to be a common business practice with Providers.  This form of verification has creeped into the hobby to the point it is or has become more the rule than the exception, and I know there will be guys who will eventually regret their stupidity.

To HonkinOnBobo, I too give my real name and much of my personal information to Providers AFTER we've met and I'm comfortable with them.  The difference though, is that I bet you don't provide that information to a potential client before meeting him in order to make that client feel "more safe".

I also understand the "If you don't want to fill out the form......THEN FUCKING DON'T AND MOVE ON."  Likewise, if you don't like the discussion thread or have read a similar one before.....   THEN FUCKING DON'T READ IT AND MOVE ON".

You stated in your original post that no providers addressed this question in the other thread.

You are not correct.

But from this newer post it appears you are admitting to simply starting a repetitive thread in the hope of converting others to your belief that it is a generally unacceptable practice (though I am still unclear how it affects you personally in any way.)

Thanks for the clarification.

Good luck and have a nice day!

You have my email address.  Send me a scanned copy of your D/L.  Then we can let the honking begin.  

Everybody should just get laid!
Hugs and kisses
TL

I concede!!  Don't agree, but do agree to never, ever bring this topic back up again on the TER discussion boards!  

I feel like Ignatius Riley in "A Confederacy of Dunces" in my own personal quixotic quest. I give. Uncle.

I'll be quite honest.  I have been in this business for quite some time now and I primarily go off instincts and I have NEVER EVER HAD A PROBLEM.  I take the time to have a lengthy 1st conversation with most dates before the initial get together so that can get a pretty good feel for the personality on the phone.  I limit the discussion to current events, likes/dislikes, why they chose me, a G rated conversation of what brought them to my ad and why, etc (you get the drift).  I do ask have they seen anyone before and if they have a DC, TER, BDG, or NR handle that I can search.  If not and they are totally green then I schedule in advance 2 days or I refer them to my booking form.

I do not truly care about getting a gent's employment information as 9 times out of 10 we have already discussed that in some form over the phone but for newbies seeking same day appointments that give me a not so good feeling I refer them to my booking form on my site as a means of filtering.  They guys here on the boards, good quality hobbyists and serious and non-LE dates take their time to experience a bit of give and take via text, email or over the phone before the initial meeting to ensure that everyone is comfortable.  Aside from all of that I have a private life that means alot to me and I also require discretion so I NEVER EVER keep any information that is given to me--details are kept on file in my mental rolodex and are never written down or recorded.  I don't even save phone numbers not unless a date tells me it's ok .

I hope that this helps (and I hope this calms the nerves of those who have thought about seeing me but were intimidated for the dreaded form) and shows that there are other ways of contacting a lady you are interested in--always just ask via email or with a quick call if her number can be found!

Always sexy, always intelligent,

Alexandria Fox

Reading comprehension isn't my strong suit, but it sounds like you're saying that you don't really screen.