Atlanta

Thanks for the info.
JeffEng16 22 Reviews 1134 reads
posted
1 / 17

This phone number leads to a rip-off robbery scam that could be dangerous. The ads are often up on Backpage most days a week, in a couple forms and they have used at least 3 pics the last 3 weeks and used to use a blond last year.

Essentially after the provider took my offering, her girlfriend who was present in the tiny hell hole of a place ran and opened the door for a guy who began banging on it who demanded that I leave and claimed he didn't have the money and immediately the provider claimed she didn't have it.  In other words the money evaporated instantaneously when the guy entered. This scenario carries the threat of danger for all people present.

Outcalls are advertised, and the scenario there might be she runs with your money. At any rate, I would never go to that location or use that number, and you have an abundance of other choices.

The current names for these pics are Alissa or this morning Carmen.

The phone number is always 404-979-1562.

Link to my review:
http://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/searchbyreviewerResults.asp?MemberName=JeffEng16

Link to multiple ads with multiple pics same phone number:

Today's ad Backpage:
http://atlanta.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/latina-carmen-23/11884365

Previous ads:
http://atlanta.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/latina-sp60-22/11630705

http://atlanta.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/latina-sweetsss-ier-22/11838325

An older ad from 2/2012 using a blond with the same phone number and same name Alissa is:
http://eroticservices.cityvibe.com/escorts.php?do=view&post=1194057

2hot4u2 228 Reviews 323 reads
posted
2 / 17
pwilley 59 Reviews 469 reads
posted
3 / 17

Personally, I have no interest in any of the BP/CV posts you referenced.  However, I'm perplexed about your post versus what your General Details review portion says.  The General Details makes no mention of being robbed.  Instead you just criticize the atmosphere and the apparent upsell.  If you got robbed, wouldn't that be the very statement you would want to make in the Review?  And, if you got robbed, why wouldn't you drop a dime and serve some justice?  You know you can do that anonomously and since you say they are using an apartment LE would love to be handed such a simple felony case to handle.  And, this is your first review...?  Just a little suspicious to me that you actions don't match the claims in the same priority that I would have chosen.  Anyhow, thanks for sharing and good luck.

JeffEng16 22 Reviews 446 reads
posted
4 / 17

pwilley--

I don't know what I can do to quell your suspicions. I'm amused you think I would want to take time to jerk myself off by posting something fake. There's no incentive whatsoever for me to do that. My  only  regret is that I mispelled a hononym or too and made a couple typos, because people respect something written less when the spelling is mistaken or punctuation is off.

I can spell, and I have vocabulary.

I immediately contacted TER after it happened, not holding them responsible for anything in the least.
I showcased that I was robbed in the review and in my post on this forum. The only think I'll apologize for are the typos.
As to whether you're personally interested in  links I posted or not, is off point. We're required to provide links in order to get our post published. Read the  FAQs. Or not.

I thought I made it clear I was robbed, and in case I didn't, I was robbed totally but how much planning the girl had in the process is not clear. It is clear she refused to give back the money and did nothing at all to earn it.

As to your legal advice, I'm suspicious as to how legally sophisticated you are. Somone's outcome on dropping a dime can vary.  In almost any instance a phone call can be traced, and shows up for LE whether you block or not. IP addresses can easily be traced.  They might choose to attempt to prosecute the person who reports or not whether as you speculate they would "love to be handed a simple felony case to prosecute, and it might not be as easy as you think to prosecute a "simple felony case." They could choose to round up anyone involved.

Even if LE busted them and made a case, they could subpopena the person who reported it and drag them into court or prosecute them with attendant publicity if they wanted to.  The one sure thing about LE dropping a dime, is they can get the media to put just about anything in print/on air. Few of us would want that experience or to spend the time that might be entailed in getting LE to go sic them.

I'd definitely like to get my money back and put them out of business because they have been doing this with different pics and the same name for quite a while. I've seen this on the web now. I see it in this morning's new post from them.

Sure there are ways to get a cop/ADA/solicitor to instigate a bust, or possibly there are but it's in a different county where I haven't known somoene who runs a solicitor's or DA's office in years.

I am sorry that you are implying I'm lying or that I'm stupid, but that's far from the case. It happened, and in retrospect as I pointed out,  the signs to get the hell  out of dodge were there and I stated that in my review and in my post on this thread.  If I wanted to go to the trouble, I could round up a posse of friends with experience in taking someone apart to bust in there and take back my money, but this is real life not CBS's "Person of Interest", and that's not my style.

My sole motive for posting was to warn people.  If you want to verify that you think I'm making it up why not go for it, call the number, and mosey on down there and see how things work out?

On one level, I understand you're being suspicious as to the subject matter generally, and the nature of the hobby sometimes. It's probably possible for providers to post fake reviews, people to get vendettas published, etc. but my take being new to this board is that simply the people that run it try hard to run quality information, and that a lot of the posters (providers/hobbyists) are inteligent enough and streetwise enough in many areas and use common sense. That's not the case here. I never called this number previously, not tried to see "this provider."

Let me be clear and feel free to say if you don't think I was explicit enough.

I posted 4 different links in my review with 4 different pictures purporting to be one girl but they didn't all get published. I'm happy to PM you with them.

This happened to me Sunday night.  It would have rocked your world and anyone elses. I was definitely robbed, but..

I wanted to get the review published, and there is a long FAQ/and other info section on how to get them published. You are warned 6 ways to Xmas not to speculate.

So although I doubt it, it's possible the girl didn't plan on my being robbed, but I doubt it.  I definitely missed the cue that if she wasn't the one in the pic, to just leave at once. The other cue was that the place was so small, you weren't getting any atmosphere or privacy. Further there wouldn't even have been a decent place for providing to take place. The bed was cluttered as was every place in the crappy  living room.

A good experience could have overcome the environment altghough from countless reviews, ambiance enhances the experience and that's just common sense.

My post was about being robbed. I explicitly stood up to the guy who barged in and the girl and asked for my money. Both blew me off.  To have attacked anyone, might have resulted in several of us getting hurt, or worse and that's not my style.

Even if the girl was shocked that this guy was let in by her buddy, who shouldn't have been present in the tiny one room place (and you  wouldn't have wanted her to be there), she was nasty and defiant after the robby happened and wouldn't give back the money.

If you check the links there are pictures of 4 potential girls who are Alyssa.  I was graphic about the atmoshpere. It was in a crappy neighborhood, off Camp Creek and the place was filthy.


I wrote TER with this heading the next day 3/19/2012 3:36:36 PM
:

"I saw a provider who set up a robbery"

Here is this morning's post by the rip off/robbery team same phone number:
http://atlanta.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/latina-carmen-23/11884365

The phone number that continues to be used on different sites is 404-979-1562 .

Stay safe and enjoy yourself.  And I'm not posting to lie to you or anyone else, but you don't know me and you're not apparently going to trust me.  There was nothing about my written content that indicated I was lying, and I was there. I'd much rather that I had contacted one of the excellent providers. I'd be a lot happier. I'm not the first or the last to get ripped off or robbed. But I don't want to see that happen to you or anyone else.

Take care.

JeffEng16 22 Reviews 374 reads
posted
5 / 17

Thanks. Sometimes in the heat of the moment you make mistakes you think through on reflection. The tell tale signs were there. I could kick myself for days for being suckered this way, and will regret it for a long time. I continue to look for a competent way to shut them down, and extract my money back at least at that location.  

There are a lot of classy, very intelligent stunningly hot providers reviewed here who would never get near something like this, and I wish I had chosen one here.

I should have taken one look at the mileu and booked.

1) No place for any action to happen. I'm aware some amazing things can happen standing up, but I think you know what I mean. The atmosphere suggested I was about to be ripped off.

2) The presence of a girlfriend with no place for her to go, but I had travelled a long way.

3) Although it might be more difficult if you don't have any White List or other providers to vouch for a screening (everyone has to start somewhere), it is probably true that providers who screen carefully are not likely to rip someone off and from a lot of reviews I have read, they provide great experiences, but there are probably a lot of honest providers who don't beat you up screening as well.

4) When pics change, besides that pics don't match the person you go and see, that's a sure sign that things may go south.

Best

pwilley 59 Reviews 320 reads
posted
6 / 17

Hey, thanks for the clarifications...  I'm convinced now ... It is difficult to "question" something without some folks jumping to the conclusion that you are calling them a liar.... That wasn't my intent.  I was just a little suspicious but thankfully you cleared up my doubts.

Sorry that happened to you and wish it would have had a different end result.  I'm not sure what I would have done had I been in your shoes, but I'd like to believe that somehow the perps would ultimately pay a price.  Easy to speculate unless you are there.  So I'll say no more and sorry for any misunderstanding.

madowda 13 Reviews 410 reads
posted
7 / 17

Although I would never TOFTT nor do I vist ladies from BP I think a lot of gentlemen do. Thanks for the heads up on this one. I'm sure that was a scary situation to be caught up in, that's why I stay with the ladies that have a great track record on TER. Hopefully your warning will save some fellow hobbyist from the bs that you dealt with.
Thanks again

bballs 40 Reviews 318 reads
posted
8 / 17
bballs 40 Reviews 328 reads
posted
9 / 17

sorry for your hassles thanks for letting us know that's what it"s all about here, helping each other stay safe

JeffEng16 22 Reviews 268 reads
posted
10 / 17

Real sorry I was so defensive & tense. I need to lighten up which is the enjoyable tone of this board.
I'm so angry I'm 'displacing' my anger.

Common sense would have turned me around the second I took in the situation, naked girl at the door or not.
And of course Khori above was right, doing research & using my head could have avoided this.

There' are some terrific providers consistently well revied & I should have gone with one.

I'm new & so many of them want references, but to have those as other people have voiced, you need to have seen people to give them & it's somewhat of a chicken egg phenom.

Thanks for your comments.

I may be able to bust them, but if they're using cheap locations & multiple  ladies as bait, they could start somewhere else.

That phone # is not changing, so there should be a way.

Thanks much

cmorganz 4 Reviews 440 reads
posted
11 / 17


that you did after could have saved you a headache had you done it beforehand.  Hard lesson to learn, but I bet that's the last time you get scammed.

JeffEng16 22 Reviews 348 reads
posted
12 / 17
JeffEng16 22 Reviews 384 reads
posted
13 / 17

madowda--

This makes plenty of  sense.  I didn't discover providers on TER/and links to them on this board for example,  until today, and by way of TER some of the better sites.

Thanks,

JeffEng16 22 Reviews 315 reads
posted
14 / 17

You couldn't be more correct. I did a terrible job of background research, i.e. very little and I was a little overwhelmed by the number of sites, but consistently good reviews at TER are probably a staple of decent research.

And when I got there, there were an abundance of  sign posts to turn around and walk away that I ignored. A lot of people here would have done just that but most if not all of them would have never been there in the first place.

A number of people and at least one great provider have said just that.

Thanks

j1974 266 reads
posted
15 / 17

I think you guys have missed the most obvious choice of just using a pay phone. I know that seems a little dated but they are still out there. A pocket of change is cheaper and more convenient than purchasing an otherwise perfect hobby phone to simply waste on providing the number to LE.

JimmyPW 58 Reviews 397 reads
posted
16 / 17

Darn,  and you did't even get to say "whats her name Bro?"  LOL

JimmyPW 58 Reviews 326 reads
posted
17 / 17

Live an learn, I do everyday. We all get fooled sometimes.

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