I would have made it up to Maddison for at least 50-75% of the amount owed! I would then post this bastards info on every DNS list on the planet! Hope you have posted his info on the TER providers only board.

yeah I dont get that either?
you cant have a thin skin and be a provider.

I have to agree with Jas on the fact that it is the models responsibility to collect their donation.

Everyone wants to put everything on the agency, when models make a mistake like this I call it live and learn.  When this happens it is not fair to the agency or the girl.  If she were Indy and he did the same thing who do you blame?  The person booking the appointment or the person doing the appointment?  Not trying to have a blame game, it just rubs Me the wrong way that someone said that Jas should have paid her something to cover the appointment, so not only does Jas lose out on the appointment she booked, provided a location for, supplies and advertised for  etc. but she has to pay the model  for not doing what she was supposed to do.  

I think it is common knowledge for most of us both Indies AND agency girls to collect up front and to check their collection.  I have a very strict rule about collecting.  

Don't shoot the messenger kind-of thing here.  

Again I am sorry a client did this, it really is terriable.  

With that said guys help the ladies out, before you take a shower set your donation out in plain view, go take your shower and Ladies then count your donation and put it away.  Now it’s taken care of and then everyone can have a good time.  

Independents and agencies have sucky stuff like this happen although it rarely happens but it can happen; that’s why it is important for the guys to make sure they are thoughtful about this up-front and Ladies it is ok to ask for the donation when they are not setting it out.  Just say well let’s take care of things before your shower.  They should get the hint.  

Either way sorry that a girl left over it, it happens, but quitting your job over ONE lost cause client is not worth it.  We win some and we lose some.  But Jasmine I would like the client information as I want to make sure he knows he not get away with this with one girl or with one agency.  We have to stick together on these things.  

Just My blunt thoughts.  Thanks for reading.    

Thank you,  
Monica  

Any sex worker who is in tears and quits over something like this is too sensitive for this industry.

In addition, he can still send you a money order or  transfer money via prepaid credit card.

I read the post by Jasmine about Maddison leaving. I don't know either of these, but it does not add up. If Maddison is leaving the industry over 1 mistake -- hell, all she has to do is put $300 back in the till from her savings, our take it from her next day's earnings. She must not have been too committed to the industry.

Additionally, I don't think Jasmine would have posted this message and mentioned Maddison by name, unless Maddison stole from her (or some similar crime). I suspect Maddison left the industry because, she was told that she could/would/should be blacklisted from working with other agencies. Just one person's opinion, but that makes more sense to me.

Ok, clearly the lady here screwed up, and it's not really the agency's fault this happened. Clearly she should have some thicker skin working in this industry, as stuff happens. No argument there. But perhaps splitting what she would normally have paid the agency would have been the right thing to do here. She still would never forget the incident, and would probably never do it again (and if she did, she should be fully responsible next time). This would also be a goodwill gesture; an honest mistake was made, and by cutting her some slack, she'd feel welcomed by the agency.
Not trying to tell agencies how to run their business, but this might have resulted in a better outcome for all.

This has me wondering though, what if the guy did something else bad, something which wasn't the lady or the agencies fault, such as being violent to her? Would the agency still want their cut? Again, I know the agency wouldn't be at fault, assuming he's a regular and was properly screened, but it just doesn't sit right with me that a girl would get hurt, maybe seriously, and the agency wouldn't let her just keep the entire donation. It's the least they could do, even if it means they don't make anything off this client.

i think this has to do more with betrayel than money,to many of us in the hobby, the companionship and friendship is as impt. as the sex!

I would love his info so I can put him on my DNS list! That is just wrong in so many ways. One word, KARMA!
Hugs and kisses
TL

I am not one of your client but I do feel for Madison's pain. What if I book 2 hours with her? Can you Jasmine help her out by paying the extra hour to her with no fees. I think the client is ridiculous. Dont forget you may also get a new client.

I do feel for Madison's pain even if I am not a client of the agency. I am willing to book 2 hours of her time if the agency can contribute 1 hr of my 2 hours to compensate her. I know the agency may lose some but it can gain also a nice good client with compassion to do the right thing.

Here, Here! Well said Hep!

The young woman is not much over 20. How many of you were so hardened to the world at 20 that somebody totally fucking you over wouldn't have bothered you. This is a tough business but it doesn't mean that the women in it are unfeeling, uncaring or not committed. Yes she probably was on the fence about leaving anyway if this one instance caused her to leave but it doesn't mean she wasn't committed.

Think about it. Before you start to criticize her, put yourself in her shoes. Most men I know could never be providers. We are too damned picky!!

The thing that is bothering me here is that some are trying to make this about Jasmine and her agency or Maddison at all. The reality is, if this guy left without paying and did not immediately go back to make it right, he is a dick. This reflects badly on all of use as men. The guy deserves to be outed on the various DNS lists and if caught by chance have his balls handed to him on a plate.

Just my .02,

Willy

[email protected]

I would appreciate the email even if it's highly unlikely that I will run across this client.

TIA

Man are you one generous guy?! You want to book 2 hours to "help Maddison out" but you want someone else to pick-up half the tab? WOW!!

It's unfortunate that this happened at all ... And hits home, especially since I know Jasmine and Madison not personally but in this hobby world. I hope that Madison reconsiders as she will be missed, but I do respect her decision.

I think you're missing my point. My point is that in both cases, the girl is victimized. She was victimized, as was the agency in this case, by this guy not paying. She could very well feel violated, the same way as if she were physically harmed. Yes, she made a mistake in this case, but all I'm saying is that perhaps she should be cut some slack. She was clearly traumatized by this....and regardless of what the agency decided to do, I'm sure it's a mistake she'd never make again. If she felt like the agency was being kind to her by not asking for the full cut, perhaps she'd still be around, and would probably more than make it up to the agency....just my 2 cents, not knowing every detail of this situation of course may draw a different conclusion.

This is so sad! It's her own fault. We all know the rules. Pay b4 Play!!! So she can't get mad at no one bt her self. She slipped. An should count this as a learning lesson. Not leave!! She must be RICH. But then again she can't be cause if she was she wouldn't be doing this. So personal I wouldn't stop making money an having fun just because of one person!

Salute
Krystalnight

Are you serious??

If you really are the nice good compassionate client that feels her pain, then book her for an hour and pay for two.

You sound like another "client" that should be avoided. Maybe you are related to the one who stiffed her.

Sorry Madison this hapenned to you.  I say Sorry because it reflects on all of us that have a good relationship with some providers.  I walk out once couple of years ago on a lady because I was a regular and just forgot to place the donation down.  She called me and I was too far gone already.  Next morning I went back and brought back her donation and put something extra on the envelope.  I can see how it could happen but it really sucks because it was her regular.  It just plain sucks.  Don't loose faith.

20 saps offer to give her the $275-300 and the agency pics up a quick 6K ?

"There's a sucker born every minute" - P. T. Barnum

It's a thought not an accusation.

You almost had me last week. I pictured the flying characters from the movie Big Trouble In Little China.

A Provider doesn't get paid one time and "needless to say" leaves the hobby - really?

Definitely a bummmer, more upsetting if done by a regular - she really formed that level of relationship?? - but to throw in the towel after this isolated (?) event, really?

Jasmine, what's the back story here?

Let me clarify myself. I dont do 2 hours. If I do it this time, it will be an exception. I do not plan to spend 2 hours. Therefore my contribution is one hour additional expense. You may say why dont I just give her the money. I just want to meet her and spend one hour time and pay her 2 hours. If I do this, I think maybe the agency can give her the second hour fees (that I give her) with no fees. If she is a valuable asset, they can consider this. This may be their contribution to keep a good girl. I have been in business all my life, and if this is not a reasonable offer, God, I dont know what is. I was thinking of doing it just for the respect of the girls in the agency. If people are so shallow, no wonder there are Big Troubles in USA. Enough said. To make all of you happy, I am withdrawing my offer. It does not pay to be a nice guy. Peace.

I'll pay it for her.  Madison is so beautiful & the industry would lose someone special.

Got your email
Hugs and kisses
TL

Maybe in ya'll minds it takes a overthinker to spot a scam mam. That trick is as old as the hills.

.....but does seem to be a fairly extreme reaction to the situation. Regardless of how upsetting (which i am sure it was) - to leave the business as a result, suggests this being a "final straw" rather than a singular event.

Maybe other things going on that you weren't aware of?

It might  do you well to remind yourself of that before you try and slam the door on people. You just gave me a huge opening.

Good on ya', cosmicjohn