While both Meena and Fallon are incredibly sexy they can also incredibly slap you up side the head. Trust me, being on their good sides is soooooo much more fun.

Sir Cumalot

One thing that always bugs me is that there are so many providers who go out of their way to say that they are "busty" and "curvy" as if that will appeal to everyone whereas I almost never see a provider make a point of saying that they are slender and petite with the cutist little A-cups that are just begging for attention.

Then there are those who only want t post pictures where they are bent over with their butt towards the camera. These are supposed to excite me? Do they think that all guys are turned on by big butts and that is all they care about? I do understand that many providers have a need to concel their identity, but is a butt shot really the best way of doing that?

I'll also mention this. In the past one of the things that has often resulted in me making multiple appointments with a particular provider is when the hour comes and goes and the provider doesn't even bother checking the time. Sometimes after all the action is over we just lay there and talked. There was one who was especially interested in some of my other hobbies and wanted to learn a bit about them herself and so our "one hour" sessions typically lasted two to two and a half hours. My opinion, and it is only my opinion, is that if providers were more relaxed about time limits they might find that ultimately it works to their advantage. You are free to disagree with this, but I can only relate to my own experiences.

he enjoys a relaxed no rush atmosphere.
besides who wouldnt repeat with a lady who keeps you waaaaay over time?

Unless she was wanting to have a meaningful conversation! yikes
lol lol

I guess if you were the only male out in the hobbying world then all the ads and all the photos would be geared to your unique specifications, and all the girls would gleefully stay with you for as long as you desired their company.  But fortunately this is not a monochromatic world.  There are many girls trying to appeal to many guys, and all are different and unique unto themselves.  There is a big world outside of your own little bubble.  As for wanting extra time with a girl, I agree that what you say may work in some instances, but it is a stretch to broadly apply that to all.  You may be relating your own experiences, and I assume you have had some great experiences, but as I said above, there is a bigger world out there.

Now I can't tell you how to solve the issue of seeing pics with a big fat ass staring you in the face, and I certainly can't do anything about those who think their claims of being curvy, big titted, A cups, or whatever, etc... is winning them business, but with regard to your comments about clock watchers, that's your choice and it doesn't have to be that way.  I couldn't even begin to count the number of providers I have known who don't watch the clock, who are happy to relax intermingled with lots of playtime, who have great attitudes, and don't charge a fortune for their muffler.  These kinds of partners are all over the place, but notwithstanding a few exceptions, if you limit yourself to only those who are active on TER, you're likely to have to deal with your pet peeve a very long time.  It's like most endeavors in life, you do a little networking, you rely on friends who have a tip, you cultivate friendships with ladies who provide what you're looking for and you gain referrals from that.  And, you would be absolutely amazed at what you will find.

What makes you think that all the lovely providers posting photos have to please you? Just like you many may like and prefer what you don't. Try to live with it. You are only important to yourself and the community is not here to please you.

Have you ever heard of thinking before writing? If that doesn‘t work, how about reading before posting?

Meena is exactly correct.  Not only do we have to be conscious of maximizing our prime time, but we also have families at home and personal obligations.  You should not expect every lady in the biz to flat out let you take advantage of her time.  I have never been a clock watcher and I have never minded staying over a little extra for pleasant company and conversation, but when I feel taken advantage of, I will always be busy when the offending guy contacts me again.  

No matter how great you think the connection is or how she didn't seem to mind staying for 2-3 hours for the price of one, eventually she will be kicking herself later and will be mad at you for taking advantage of her that way unless you properly compensate for her actual time versus what you booked.  If you allow yourself to be a doormat, the anger will eventually surface.  

If client A takes advantage of her time in the name of chemistry, and client b pays for actual time spent, which client is she going to want to spend her time with and which client will she eventually resent?  Just as you have other choices, so do we.

personal websites of the beautiful Atlanta Ladies, of which I have never seen a butt staring at the camera on their sites. The Atlanta ladies have to much class than that.

I never ask for it to happen, it is always the provider's choice/decision. However, if it does happen, that may tend to make it more probable that I'll see her again. I don't see how I am doing anything wrong in that and it would seem clear that the provider is not adverse to it occurring. Also, I don't think that there is any strict definition that a donation is for a set amount of time. I think it is always up to the provide how much time they spend. It isn't as if union rules apply.

While I will grant that perhaps there are some providers with whom a meaningful conversation is probably not in the works, I have always treated providers as if they are a friend and I show them the same respect I would give to a friend. I would be horrified at myself if I ever treated them like a piece of meat or just a convenience - that would violate MY ethics. I generally enjoy their company and if they enjoy mine enough to disregard the clock then it isn't because I have ever asked for that. Of course on the other hand if she acts like she just wants to get the job done and get out the door as if she has a plane to catch, then it isn't likely that I'll call on her again and probably that wouldn't be welcomed in that case anyhow.

Yes, of course there is a bigger world. But because there is a bigger world it means that there are more choices. If I choose to see someone more often because they are relaxed about the time limit, have either I or the provider done something wrong. I don't see how it can be said that I'm taking advantage of someone when it is a choice that she makes. It is always her choice. But I'm also never going to say that it is time for her to head for the door because I'm done with her. I'd get out of the hobby before I ever did something like that.

TER has only been a factor for about the last 8 years and I've been in the hobby far longer than that. The only reason I use TER now is that ultimately I think it is a bit safer. But in the past I have had a very wide variety of experiences and there were periods when I saw only one provider exclusively anywhere from a couple months to a couple years and then there were times when I saw a provider just once because it was a negative experience for one reason or another.

You may be on to something there. I guess I never thought of it as personal web sites vs sites like BP or CV.

Alright here is my view. I know who are the ladies that are curvy and shapely and the ones that carry little bodyfat. you can choose anyone you want. I think any independent that goes past the allowed time do so based on chemistry and a connection. Now if they stay maybe a half hour later that is totally different then a client wanting another hour. The independent will dictate and you should respect her decision. I am a VIP at the Gold Club and I also see special independents.

I have seen it all and been with laides on long dinner dates. One dinner date was suppose to be 4 hours with an independent. I picked her up at 8 pm too her to the Palm in Atlanta. I left at 2:30 in the morning and it was her choice to have me stay 2 1/2 more hours. I kept asking are you sure you dont want me to leave due to time, she says no way you are great stick around with me.

I have had some ladies tell me there was no clock when we met because of whatever their reasoning has been. I have taken ladies out for dinner after a session and enjoyed their company. These are normally ladies that I have seen multiple times and there has been a comfort level reached. When I ask and they can't though I don't take it personal. Everyone has their own rules, boundaries, limits or whatever you chose to call it. Respect those limits and it will go a long way. Believe it or not most of the ladies here do not have a difficult time filling their dance card. That is why they have limited hours, can charge a higher rate and yes hold their limits. Now if you want to find some ladies who are not making ends meet then you probably are better off shopping on BP with the 18 yo runaways.

The rates in Atlanta right now are all over the place. You can get an agency session for as little as $$ or see one of the more elite Indies for upwards of $$$.  If you want more than an hour, book 90 minutes with someone running a special or whose rates fit your budget. If you just want some company, go hang out at a strip club and tip the dancers. But you are opening yourself up to "board abuse" with posted like this.

Just sayin!

Willy

1).  You're not the only hobbyist.    To each that likes their own.  If you don't like ass shots instead of face, move to the next provider.

2).  They are PROVIDERS.  We are CLIENTS.  While I advocate friendliness, to hell with the FRIEND moniker.  Been there and done that.  It leads to utter disappointment more often than not.  There is a provider who shall remain nameless that I wanted to be "friends" with after a GREAT session.  Needless to say, sense we were "friends," she no longer could see me as a "client."  Yet since I was her friend, when she needed help for another provider who got pinched, she called me and like a dumbass, I went to the rescue.  Months later, I am still assed out from my money and the original provider still won't see me.  Remember man...this is BUSINESS.  Keep it that way, get what you need out of the deal, and keep it moving.  Like I said, you CAN be cool with some of them and talk every once in a while, but stay away from that friendship BS.  It never works out well.

3).  Which also leads me to say...it's BUSINESS (again).  You pay for TIME...whether you f$@& or not.  Remember, we aren't "paying for sex." We are paying for companionship and the sex that SOMETIMES happens is simply between two "consenting adults." (rolling eyes).  You cannot expect a provider to GIVE you more time because you stopped 30 minutes into it and wanted to chat for another 30.  That doesn't fly and you shouldn't expect it to.  All in all, we know what we are there for...(most of us anyway).  Pay yer tab(if asked for upfront), get down to the bizness and use your time wisely if you are there to get some GOOD RELATIONS.  Save the chatter for a "friend." (rolling eyes again).  

Just my nickel...(certainly was more than two cents!)

CDAV

He is merely stating his experience with few ladies he has. I have had the same experience with few of my ATFs also.

When I get ready to leave they ask me, why are you in hurry? We have some interesting discussions like two people who like each other. Do you click with every one, absolutely not. Personally don’t go for a second visit if we don’t click and chemistry is not there. What is the point?

One can figure this out on emails, on the phone, M&G’s and TER boards for that matter.

What’s wrong with that?

As the wise once said; "You reap what you sow"

Man, from reading your postings here it is obvious that you feel like your little personal bubble encompasses the entire universe, that what you want is how everything operates.  I have to look back at your initial premise-- that girls should quit looking at the clock and spend all their time with you, because it will lead to a more favorable impression on your part and ultimately lead to more repeat business from you.  You are the guest that won't leave.  Do you make long distance phone calls and raid their refrigerators while you linger on?  Are you always certain that your staying on is her choice?  I think the female responses to your "pet peeve" (it sounds more like an incessant whine to me) are more to the contrary.  Or perhaps I am wrong in my assessment.  Perhaps girls are unable to tear themselves away from your titillating presence.  I do hope you bring a case of Dos Equis with you to your appointments, because you must certainly be the Most Interesting Man in the World.

My massage therapist is amazing, she sees clients at home, great atmosphere, always has cold or hot (depending on the season) drink ready, soft music, fabulous professional.  She also happens to be intelligent woman and her and i probably could talk for hours.

Yet, somehow, she never keeps on massaging me once my PAID time is up. She even books another client within half an hour after I am scheduled to leave. May be I should stop patronizing her ... she is damn clock watcher and high volume!

I always relate it to how you pay for other things....if you book a one hour massage you get a ONE HOUR MASSAGE...not 2,3, etc....so why would you think any different about a lovely providers time....brother, you need to understand this,...it's a business deal...so make a decision on how much time you want and pay the lady for the time. I always want to enjoy every minute with a provider that I click with but you as the hobbyist also need to respect their time as well...I always find if you respect them and their time they return it in ways that are better! So I'm with brother Willy J ..... Pay the ladies, I'm just sayin...too!

You are paying for THEIR TIME.  They all quote you a price for a time limit.  I have never seen a provider not set a time limit. I always  stick to the time that I pay for.  Even if I click with a provider and she says don't worry about the time no rush I still make sure i stick to the time.  The reason is I don't know what she may have going on after and I don't want to over stay my time.  her time is just as valuable as mine even if she is not rushing me out the door.  I think it's just common sense and common respect.  If you are going to stay way over your time then you should pay for that time.  I could see maybe 5 or 10 mins but you are talking an hour to an hour and a half and that's just wrong.

2 or 3 hours over at N/C to get a repeat deadbeat. Yea, that works to their long term advantage LMAO  I'm going to ask the guy at QuickTrip if he will kick in 2 free gallons of gas per every gallon I pay for to lock in my long term business.

I worded it in a way that wasn't clear. The donation is only tied to an hour if the provider says that it is tied to an hour. It is totally their choice. But there is no universal requirement that the donation be tiied to an amount of time. It isn't like Moses chiseled that into a tablet or anything like that. But as things have moved into the modern age there has been a tendency to say that a session has times limits.

I was really also just trying to say that I appreciate it when the time gets extended by a providers own choice and I never ask for that. At the same time, if she does allow time to just pass by I might have a higher inclination to see her again, but I would never tell a provider under any circumstances that I won't see her again no matter what the reason might be. If I decide not to see someone again, I just never call on them again and I don't explain that to anyone.

In the end it all comes down to choices that people make. No one can make me see a provider that I don't want to see again and a provider is free to refuse additional visits if she doesn't want to see me again. I was only trying to give expression to some of my thoughts and in the end I've seen plenty of providers multiple times  who are lax about time and others who are very strict about time.

Why would I want to leave? She comes to my place, I'm not her place. I've preferred outcalls for a long time. That means there are many providers that I'll never be able to see, but luckily there are many providers who offer outcall.

That is my point to some extent. Not every escort quotes prices based on time. That is the tendency these days, but it is only a tendency and not an absolute rule. If they want to quote based strictly on session without defining the length of the session, then that should be their choice. There is no escort control board who is going to fine them for not operating within the limits of some set of rules for what is and is not a legitimately allowed session. I am certainly not new to this hobby. My first time with an escort was back in 1986, so I've had a wide variety of experiences since then - including one provider who, when she came to see me, would ask to stay overnight because she would be able to leave from my home to her day job in the morning and cut her commute time by almost two hours since I was only a few miles from where her day job was located. I had no problem with her staying overnight and so there was a mutual benefit - but it was something she asked for, not me. That is just one of the outside-of-normal experiences I have had and there are many others. It all gets into circumstances.

This guy never quits!  In his world he is always right and can never imagine that the world is any different.  I know now why he claims to keep girls hours over the appointed time.  He talks and bores them to death.  These girls aren't staying with him-- they have been put into a catatonic state and can't move!  Oh well, it's sad, but I guess it's really none of my business.  I'm sorry I ever bothered with this massive waste of time. More power to you, buddy.

these responses are cracking me up! everyone all hot and bothered about the T.S.G. "taking advantage"


Since when did "There was one who was especially interested in some of my other hobbies..." mean " EVERY provider I see, I MAKE her stay for extra time"

It would be very interesting to hear from these ladies that see him. It is always suggested that we not tell a lady how to run her business, maybe these ladies have a reason for not watching the clock.

That is between her and him. Dammit!

Thank you. You are exactly correct. The extra time doesn't happen with everyone. In fact, it is relatively rare. And I never, ever, ever, explicitly asked them to stay extra. They have simply done by their own choice and all of them have been independents to the best of my recollection so they were not accountable to an agency for their time. I'm not going to kick a provider to the curb if she decides to stay by her own choice and I really do not see how I would be taking advantage of her.

My opinion on agencys.. I want you guys out there that are my clients to let the ATL world know not every Agency is a Clock Watcher.. How many of you have stayed 10/15/20 over and have I ever knocked on doors? ONLY if I am booked will I tap lightly and whisper 10 minutes but, thats usualy at the hour. I spread my clients apart because I know what happens on both sides. I also figure that I  work with proffessionals and they know exactly what time it is but obviously if theyre cool with it, Im cool with it. Unless as I said if I have other bookigs but its been very slow so we havent had that much of a problem with that LOL LOL  Then if theres really not much going on... How many of you have sat down on my couch and just hung around chit chattin . Not Every agency behaves the same way as every Independant has her ways.

Just A thought here as Im tired of ALL agencys gettin dogged for the actions of a few..

tyvm,P.T.