I'll do as you suggest and post the name. I hope the post appears, as my first one did. It was Tori, the cute petite blonde that advertises as an independent on Centerfolds.
Unfortunately, this thread will disappear in a day or so (or less if we get another thread like the one below about Jolie). At least a few members will catch it. I do understand that this site is about generating revenue, but I don't understand how blocking my review increases their revenue? Perhaps they feel that a review without any dirty sex talk doesn't make for good reading? Anyway,... after no showing for an appointment, she apologized and offered a $50 discount from her usual $300 hourly fee. After making me wait 35 minutes the next night, we finally got started, and after 15 minutes her alarm went off, signally that we had 10 minutes left and I'd better hurry up and finish. THE TIME I SPENT WAITING CAME OUT OF MY SESSION! Considering the hassles, a half hearted massage, and a rushed missionary main event, I definitely do not recommend her.
I have seen two reviews that I submitted on a particular provider rejected. The first one because it did not have a vaild link to her ad. Okay, that seemed legitimate, so after rereading the review posting rules, I rewrote the review. In the review I stated my experience in explicit detail. The problems setting up the session, the half-assed massage, followed by the quick missionary pressured ending with the distinct lack of other activities, my dissatisfaction with the encounter even though I gave her high ratings on her looks, and the "do not recommend" tag. I made sure to include a valid link.
When it did not appear I contacted TER to see why. I was told it was not explicit enough. I don't get it! What else can I say besides exactly what happend? I suspect protectionism. Valuable information is being withheld from the hobbyists. It is just not worth it trying to post reviews here. Too much censorship. I hope that this post gets allowed.
This is not bias. It is the fact of TER being an absolutely pain in a$$ for accepting review to the point of idiotic. I had the exact same problem as you in the past and I now will not waste my time going through the process. If a question is posted that I may assist, I backchannel. I refuse to waste with TER denseness. Just plain stupid about it.
Nothing personal thirsty.
I have found this site to be rather difficult to get a review published as well. (Still have not gotten one on line
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I used to be a member and major contributor on HotlantaASP. of course, eventually i ran amuck (sp) of Rick and that ended.
I usually see a lady once or twice a month, but find it easier to pay the membership fee (since Sept, 2001) than to try to get the reviews up.
I feel your pain, though. I just submitted a review on the Fox that Rocks and never got it up. I am surei failed to do something, but too bad it takes a more advanced degree than i have to post a review here. We are all losing out.
Off the Soap Box,
Still Lost,
Lostbear
I have tried to post at least 3 reviews on a B'ham lady and have gotten nothing on the board thus far. I will not try any longer.
I do not know who you are or whether or not the review you tried to post was positive or negative, but I would like to have the feedback from you either way. Please PM me or send email to my hotmail account, let me know if you were pleased or displeased with our session, and either way I will give you a second session with a special repeat rate. Double Time or half price. For that matter, anyone who has seen me once can take me up on that offer, I want to see you all again if possible ... its always better the second time!!
And I am taking all the constructive criticism to heart... I know it has made me a stronger person and a better provider!
fundamently a flawed strategy and inadequate tactical resources. The result is an operational bureaucracy that is like a brick wall. It demands the same kind of effort to get a simple hobby review "approved" with painstaking multiple submissions to shoot through a moving window of irratic and inconsistant criteria commonly found in the corporate work place for which people recieve compensation for such effort.
It is set-up that way cause they like it. It is maintained that way despite feed-back such as yours cause they want it to stay that way. There are pobably more people on the outside of the wall, such as yourself, who have been exhausted by the process and given-up, than those who's tenacity generated an opening and are regularly contributing to the review data base. Their mission is to make money, not necessarily make PT happy, and their continuation in business suggests that no matter how screwy the "approval for a review" process is, they have the right mix from revenue generating activities to make their business plan.
It is not a traditional quality control issue of rejecting bad lots and accepting good lots. There have been too many fake reviews and self reviews (bad lots) that have made it in, and too many legitimate reviews (good lots) such as yours that get rejected.
If you don't feel like going through it but want to have your feedback heard...first chill, then just add the name of the provider to your post. They are very good at allowing those types of informational posts, keeping the board lively, informative, and a reason for prospective revenue generators to keep come into their shop.
I'll do as you suggest and post the name. I hope the post appears, as my first one did. It was Tori, the cute petite blonde that advertises as an independent on Centerfolds.
Unfortunately, this thread will disappear in a day or so (or less if we get another thread like the one below about Jolie). At least a few members will catch it. I do understand that this site is about generating revenue, but I don't understand how blocking my review increases their revenue? Perhaps they feel that a review without any dirty sex talk doesn't make for good reading? Anyway,... after no showing for an appointment, she apologized and offered a $50 discount from her usual $300 hourly fee. After making me wait 35 minutes the next night, we finally got started, and after 15 minutes her alarm went off, signally that we had 10 minutes left and I'd better hurry up and finish. THE TIME I SPENT WAITING CAME OUT OF MY SESSION! Considering the hassles, a half hearted massage, and a rushed missionary main event, I definitely do not recommend her.
It doesn't. That's a ridiculous premise. TER's review monitoring system is far from perfect. However, if TER wanted to increase revenue, wouldn't it make more sense to just no longer offer free VIP time to to who submit reviews and problem reports to update existing reviews? Krunchie...do you realize how much free VIP time TER gives away? Do you honestly think that guys would stop writing reviews if the incentive is removed. You'd definitely get rid of many of the B.S. reviews but guys would still write plenty of reviews. In order for TER to solve the "review reviewer" problem, I imagine that they would have to hire a lot more people. Most of the people who work for TER are volunteers so that's probably not going to happen.
thirsty
Not me! Never said anything about increasing Rev. Just said by way of assumption ala common sense that they have an accptable revenue mix to sustain the business as a going concern.
For the Q&A session:
Q. Krunchie...do you realize how much free VIP time TER gives away?
A: No
Q. Do you honestly think that guys would stop writing reviews if the incentive is removed.
A. No. But I do think review production would increase if the disincentives to production were eliminated.
Q. However, if TER wanted to increase revenue, wouldn't it make more sense to just no longer offer free VIP time to who submit reviews and problem reports to update existing reviews?
A. Possibly. Possibly a reduction, since I don't know what percentage of sales it represents and if it is excessive (as implied by your comments) to competitive businesses. Start-up models typically have higer promotion, sales and marketing expenses. It may already be in the business plan to reduce incentives over time as other performance bench marks are achieved.
Q. In order for TER to solve the "review reviewer" problem, I imagine that they would have to hire a lot more people. Most of the people who work for TER are volunteers so that's probably not going to happen.
A. Ah, thirsty, you have hit on the magic with that one! That's the point about flawed strategy and tactical limitations of pursuing it. Amongst the revenue goals is the "sale" of information. A lower cost producer of information will be more profitable then one that is not. Production cost are lowered considerably when you don't have to pay your staff because they are volunteers, but so is product quality. Worst of all though is the disincentive to "review" production. As TER, staffed by these volunteer editors (most not having a clue of the local reviewer and reviewiee), no equity incentive for growth and quality -just free minutes of access, in turn cause those trying to submit reviews to be unpaid employees laboring more tediously then on any other board, under the insrtuctions and management pecular to the particular volunteer editor doing the work at the time for his/her free minutes.
The reason I think it is flawed, is because statistically the greater the sample size the greater the accuracy, but there are fewer instead of more reviews in the sample (data base) because of the "editing and submission" process, as per PT's an many, many others comments. Accuracy also increases with diversity of reviewers, but so many have given-up in frustration, there is a far lower diversity. Therefore the "front-end" processing that is going on is not increasing product availability or accuracy. The arbitrary nature by which entire portfolios of provider reviews are removed when disagreements with providers arise also lessen product availability and quality. Revenue from the sale of reviews will eventually be at risk unless it get straightened out. But one thing these guys are is sharp, and they may not even need it.
Wanna see more magic? It may only be good for the short term, and don't get me wrong, I'm still not saying it increases revenue over all, but yes it does appear a certain amount of obstruction and barriers to review submission are intentional to cause the reviewer to pay.
Lost Bear may be lost, but he is a very wise bear. I have loved following lost bear around when he's been looking for honey cause he usually finds good honey and there is sometimes more than he can eat. I would like to make my point by quoting the Lost (and wise) Bear from his post...."I usually see a lady once or twice a month, but find it easier to pay the membership fee (since Sept, 2001) than to try to get the reviews up"
So from that example, yes sometimes making it so frustrating to submit reviews in order to get free access will cause a person to just give up and pay to see them. (Even though I didn't say that in my post..hehe.) But the downside and long term flaw is as more of the very legitimate and valuable reviewers such as Lost Bear and PT are absent from the data base the quantity and quality of information and what someone is willing to pay for it will be less.
I have submitted three reviews and all three have been posted. I can see how it would be frustrating to spend time writing the review only to have it disappear into never never land.
Are you a paying member? If so, that would confirm Krunchie's suspicions that non-VIP members have a harder time posting reviews, in the hope that they will give up and pay for the status. If not, tell us what is your secret?
and my reviews have always been accepted. maybe the problem is with you?
I've never paid money to TER, but have been a constant VIP member for over a year by posting reviews and by reporting bad URLs for a provider's website. I have 20+ reviews and out of those I've had a few get rejected for lack of details. But after resubmitting them with more detail they were posted...
this is why i have a review section on my website and i encourage all to post .. the good the bad and the ugly .. i dont understand why they dont post the not so good reviews.. i am getting negative feedback from some of the ladies on my site and I have ecouraged the guys to just post the review.. not to lie just simply tell the truth .. ladies can never know what is really being said if all we see are good reviews .. and nothing ever negative .. what do we have to work with .. humm
oh well just my .02
I don't imagine you get too many bad reviews to work with!!
I love what I do or else I would not do It to me there is nothing like mutual pleasure and the feeling before during and after .. It is my motto to get as much pleasure as I can squeeze out of a guy lol.. I try not to get bad reviews but I do not go outta my way to impress anyone I am what I am take it or leave it .. I think that is the best way to go .. I treat everyone like I wanna be treated or might i say I please everyone the way I wanna be pleased.. I dont post fake pics .. I dont act like a toot fruity cause I aint one.. I believe honesty is the best policy and to me and all I do this seems to be the best method of approaching this business..
If I get a bad review I analyze it and try to see how I can better my service without being a fake.. but sometimes as we all know people just dont click.. anyway .. just something i wanted to say . hugs and kisses you all have a great turkey day .. deanna
Thirsty,
I would like to be able to read reviews from respected posters such as 'Part Timer' and 'Lost Bear' even if they do not include graphic details of the encouter. I personally have been labeled a "graphic poster" on TBD Ladies Forum Do-Not-See(DNS) list by providers who were unhappy with the level of detail I provided in my reviews. Therefore, reviewers are trying to walk a fine line between providing "to many" details and not providing "enough" details to get past the TER screening process.
I think it would be a good idea for TER staff to allow 'respected' VIP members to post 'unmoderated' reviews. Since they are already VIP members they are not posting reviews just to gain VIP status and if they have previously posted reviews there is a good chance that they are not self posts by a provider. This should not create any additional work for TER staff and could actually eliminate some work load since 'respected' VIP members would no longer have to go through the "approval process". If a questionable review is posted I am sure that someone will bring it to TER staff's attention using the "Report a Problem" option.
I believe that quality reviews and discussions are the life blood of a message board and making it easier for 'respected' VIP members to post information can only enhance the level of participation.
Just My $0.02,
Aliados
Who is to say who is respected? Too arbitrary. Some guys you say are respected, I have problems with.
It is completely up to TER Staff to determine who is allowed to post 'unmoderated' reviews - just as they do with 'unmoderated' posts on the boards.
This 'hobby' is the perfect example of "different strokes for different folks", and while you may have a problem with some individual posters I think we can all benefit from the free flow of infomation. My point is that I would prefer to read a non-graphic review from a VIP member with previous reviews to his credit, than to have it rejected by TER staff never to be seen.
Just My $0.02,
Aliados
Well I have never seen a review from PartTimer so while he may be trusted to you, he is not to me.