Do any of you rank Aspen Edwards a 10 in looks. She must be a great lady and performance must be off the charts.
She is obviously a lovely lady- But compared to our best not even close. And I love 8-10 ladies.Cheers.

Agreed!!!

one man's 10 is another mans  6 or 7.

I don't know the woman of who you speak but I would guess her skills make her look
great to her patrons..

Hooker scores on looks are all over the place.

but I have to say, she is a rather large woman.

That said there are loads of women getting tens that I could barely call a six or seven. The numerical rating system here is completely meaningless to me. I simply don't trust the ratings of guys who either need glasses or standards, but as long as her pics are accurate I have to sadly say, "each to their own"  

and I would like to repeat that it is a bit mean spirited that with all the hundreds of women here receiving undeserved 10's, why did you feel the need to single out this one women who at least to her credit is posting accurate pics? Why don't you pick on any one of the many women who are twenty years older and 30 pounds heavier than advertised, yet still get the BSU's to give them tens? Aspen doesn't appear to be anywhere near my type, but I see no evidence of her trying to mislead anyone and I am not going to jump on your bandwagon of bashing her. If you want to revive the criticism of lets say VIP V, count me in, but Aspen has given me no reason to pick on her, so I am not going to.

There are probably 2 women in this biz who are a 10 in looks, but it's given out to 100's.

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Beauty is subjective, and to single out a provider who by all accounts represents herself accurately is unnecessary and cruel. I'm a slender brunette with big boobs and not much ass, I think I have a nice face but won't be winning any Vivien Leigh lookalike contests. Some guys think I'm a goddess, some think I'm just kind of cute, and some I'm just not their type at all. Substitute me with any other woman and you'd get the same break down (perhaps with different proportions depending on the lady), no matter how many 10s a provider has she isn't going to be everyone's idea of a 10. The ratings are way overblown, I think both providers and clients would be better served by having reviews based on content only (maybe a would recommend/would not recommend system in place of ratings?). Going to see a 10/10 provider doesn't necessarily mean you will have as good of a time as you would have had with a 7/7 provider. What if the 7 is a 10 to you? What if her personality and other qualities make it a 10/10 experience? I think Ms Edwards likely does well in reviews because she represents herself well and attracts guys who are looking for a lady like her.  

OkCupid did an interesting study with their data about attractiveness and messages. They found that women with more polarization in looks ratings got more messages than women who most people agreed were attractive. So the tatted up punk rock chick gets more attention than the pretty but perhaps generic girl next door type. It's pretty cool and worth a read if anyone likes psychology and statistics.  

 
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Agreed. Just because she's not your cup of tea doesn't require you to point it out. Doesn't make her look bad but it makes you look like a major prick.

Still doesn't make the fact that he singled her out a classy move or anything but in that context, I do get where he's coming from (if that is the case).

Never seen her but after seeing other Top 10 ladies like Brittany Cherry, Meena, V, and Brianna up close and in person and then comparing to her pics, it does seem a stretch that all her looks scores are 9 and 10's.  

Whatever, to each his own.

Sir Cumalot

Personally, looks scores mean nothing to me.  Service scores consistent with text of review is all that matters.  I know the looks I like, I neither assume nor care how many agree...
I think Joe Montana was best QB of all time.  
I think  the best colors Crimson Red and maroon
I think Fall is the best season
It's just personal opinion.  That's also why I seldom give a low looks score. One mans fantasy is another mans nightmare

Going down this path of singling out a single provider is a slippery slope.  Before long, providers will post singling out a single customer on his small penis size, and dammit, I don't want to be outed

For me, though, she looks sexy as fuck & fact is that she pulls those 10's time after time
 

not trying to be mean but it's just so OBVIOUS she's not a 10. Look at her pics. 8 AT THE MOST. That's not mean to say-- it's just the truth! And she has put herself out there to get this feedback by manipulating her reviews while showing her face on her site. Just sayin'

No stretch on the 10's dudes see the look they like.

have met very few 9s or 10s in this hobby.  those ratings are reserved for only the very best.  nothing against Aspen, but I could never give a rating higher that a 6 with tattoos

I understand beauty is in the eye of the holder. But solid 10's you have yo be kidding me. Some times you need to speak out. Never said she wasn't a fantastic performer. But she is not a 10.

Mean spirited. I just stated the  the obvious. I have nothing against Aspen - I have issues with the Guy's who would call her a 10 unless their wasn't a deal. Please open your eyes.Cheers.

...she does ask that her clients submit 10/10 reviews for her.  Aspen is definitely a 10 performer but I agree with players2 in that many of the 10 appearance scores are inflated. Yes, beauty is in the eye of the beholder but whenever anyone gets 10/10s across the board, it's natural to be suspicious.

... talking about all of our little dicks, big beer guts, and bald heads over on the 'providers only' board, you're crazy. Might as well stop worrying about that now HA!

Sir C

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but if you are going to call out one woman for this type of thing, you need to call out the rest of them too.  

I am willing to bet I am tougher about looks than any of you. My personal scale pretty much stops at nine as I always feel the moment I call one woman a ten, some other woman will come along even hotter, and then what the fuck am I supposed to do. lol

I just think it's mean spirited to single out a "Non drama" queen for this type of thing when their are dozens of women out of each top 100 list pulling the same crap. I don't believe any string of solid 10-10 reviews , Helen of Troy couldn't be all things to all men, much less many of the rather average looking women that inhabit the top 100 lists in every city.

but to call out one woman out of the hundred, just because she happens to be at the top of the list (which incidentally I didn't even know as I don't look at the top lists) is just mean spirited IMO. I talk about the OTHFBC all the time, and I led the charge when VIP Veronica was busted out for her antics, but you never see me singling out a woman to criticize her looks or single her out as undeserving even if I think that's the truth.  Now if one of her ten/ten wants to fess up that he was pressured into giving an undeserved score, that's a different matter, but if we are going to start calling out every woman who gets appearance scores at least three grades too high, that's all we are going to be doing for months, as it's a VERY long list.

and please keep in mind, I am an admitted asshole, and am often accused of being a misogynist for speaking too harshly at times. If I say it's mean, you can bet your fucking ass it's mean.

The idea of this site is to call Bullshit when you see it. Go get another shot and chill Dude- I have never been mean or over the lines poster. Cheers from the Lake.

I just checked out the Atlanta top list and without naming names I only found a couple in the top ten that would rate even an 8 on the GaGa scale. I call bullshit when I see it more than anyone on this board, but even I don't call out women for their looks on a discussion board. That is just classless IMO, especially when you call out a woman who never even posts on the discussion boards. Now why don't you have a shot, chill out and rethink coming on here calling out a woman strictly because you don't think she is hot enough to rate tens.  

Now if you have some proof that she is engaged in review fraud or manipulation, that kind of shit is fair game and for the record I think all women with nothing but 10-10 reviews, even the really hot ones, are most likely gaming the system. Calling a woman out for bad behavior is fair game, calling her out for her looks is a low blow, and completely classless IMO

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I saw Aspen before she hit the big time...and after..... . I also know her on a somewhat personal basis. My review reflected my 'type' and was not a 10/10. Having said that, let me just say this...performance wise...she merits a 10. Personality wise - definitely a 10. We all have our ideal 'types' but let me say, that Aspen is one of the best ladies I've seen period, and I've seen the vast majority of ATL's best, and a good number of top rated touring girls. I also consider her a friend, and there are only a handful of ladies that have let me into their 'inner circle'. Aspen will flat out rock your world and I would recommend her without hesitation!

Some of the other reviewers have mentioned a few other girls, and oh by the way, based on my personal experience, several of them have a good bit of flake factor associated with them. You won't find that with AE.

Happy holidays yall.

I've also seen Aspen twice and I agree with Bucky11 - I would recommend her whole-heartedly.  

Never once did she ask me to give her certain score - that's based on my own experiences with her.

I'll make this short in response to the OP:

 The whole review system is based on opinions. What's great for you may be not what I'm looking for and vice versa. I think it is bad form to call out her, or any provider, without having some first-hand experience. It's a bad look, it insults her and reflects poorly on you.

If you want to question the system, question the system, but don't throw shade on the girl or other reviewers unless you've done some up close research.

I have said numerous times That I am sure Aspen is a great lady and a top performer. ter guidelines for looks are very specific.

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Don't hate the playa
Hate the game

Beauty or HOTT is an arbitrary and subjective thing I believe.  The lady in a question is a very attractive woman and it sounds  like
(her reviewers find) that she is a beautiful woman.  I think as do many others that Adele is a beautiful woman and at the moment she opens her mouth (and her soul) she becomes a goddess.  I have met many, many men ( and not all in the biblical sense) and among the most attractive were those that were not model quality but had grace,poise, warmth, wit,sensuality and a self confident masculinity that became obvious when they spoke  and voila,,,they were suddenly Tom Selleck.  I have met many, many, many more that were GQ quality that the moment they spoke they made Shrek look good because they had obviously ugly souls.  As far as review manipulation, if she does ask (and you do not know that ) why would she ask for less than the best, reallllllyyyyy? How about the flip side  of that " it looks like you are running a little light on reviews right now would you consider taking a little less in your donation"....  I aime à avaler tout,,suzee

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My Friends,

I will open by saying that while I do not post often in the discussion forums, I do watch them intently. I follow the threads and the thoughts and read what people have to say and who says it. I would add that it is not just TER boards that I refrain from commenting on, but also the numerous model and film forums that I belong to. Public forums are rightfully designed for public opinion, and opinion as we all know spans the gamut. Believe me, you would be amazed at the debates that have been spawned over filmmakers, artists, or even whether Canon tops Sony in the DSLR world. People are passionate – and the passion is appreciated when it isn’t divisive or vicious.  

I’ve followed this thread since it’s inception on Thanksgiving. Interestingly my Mum wondered why my eyes grew wide while I was reading this originally in her kitchen. I debated offering a response sooner but figured I would sit back and see where the road lead as this is my first time as the focal point on a public discussion since joining the site in 2013. I haven’t lost sleep, enjoyed my weekend in Orlando at the annual auto show, and thought in depth yesterday, during my return home, on a proper reply.  

I will make several points quite clear. The first being this. I have absolutely no ill will, aggravation, or animosity towards anyone in this thread at all.  In reading through this, I appear to be the merely the catalyst on a debate much older than my time on these boards. Some comments have been pretty direct towards my physical appearance, and again, this is a matter of opinion. We can’t all love the same thing. Life would be quite boring.  

Which leads me to my next point. You cannot assign objective criteria to a subjective topic.  

It seems everyone agrees on performance, even though that too in fact could be quite subjective in its own right. But in the end – you can assign certain benchmarks to performance and gather a mean.  

But what are to grading factors for looks? I think it was summed up nicely in that the spinner (By the way, I hate that term. I see it as a bit objectifying to said spinner, but again – my opinion only) is not the end all, be all in the looks column. I had a very in depth conversation with a hobbyist whom is, to this day, a very close friend and has not commented in this thread. This hobbyist’s view on looks is such:

Is the girl the person I saw in the photo? Yes? 10.
Does the girl smell nice, clean, refreshing? Yes? 10.
Did she take the time to do her makeup with care, is she well put together, did she plan her outfit out and/or is it what I requested? Yes? 10

You see my friends; this hobbyist’s take (and this is his take, doesn’t have to be everyone’s) is that he knows what he is venturing into when he makes a connection with a lady. If that lady is WHAT he expected, what he signed up for, then she garners a top score. She garners that top score because looks are subjective, and as many have previously stated, what is a bombshell to one – may not be the same to another.

I’m quite clear in my posts, images, and social networks. If you want instant, untouched, photos, you need only find me on Twitter. I guarantee there is numerous images right there. If you are looking for the lady who is 5’7”, super slender, with virgin skin void of piercing or ink – I am NOT the girl for you. I have nothing at all against ladies that fit the above mold. In fact, in my personal life, I venture towards that look in a legitimate girlfriend. Opposites attract and I am quite the bisexual one having had more committed relationships with ladies than with gents.  

Please note though, if you’ve read my posts on TER you would see that this holds true to almost every one of them. It wasn’t a mistake when I upgraded my boobs to a 34J. Mind you … 34” band size. Just saying. I’m shorter, I have dramatic curves, ink, numerous piercings, and I push this out constantly. I think Ava summed it up best in that I have a different body type and based on public study, perhaps that’s why my inbox is typically full before I wake up in the morning. Those who want to see me are typically looking for something or someone specific. Even delving through my reviews you will see it is mentioned numerous times that I am not your typical girl.  

I do not make deals with people for scores, I do not offer discounts or incentives for reviews, nor do I pester or pressure someone for such. I don’t ask for a review to be written. I don’t beg for a number. Insinuating that I do is completely inaccurate and a shot at both my competency and character.  I understand the system and the machine that drives the lists, and have been victim to a false review in the past. I’ve also lost points on looks merely because I had tattoos and piercings. That knowledge is what brought me to turn down many more dances then I accept. I’m not going to be everyone’s view of perfection, but, if clearly I am not the type of girl you find attractive, I am not going to allow you to venture into something you will feel was lack luster. I hold long-standing connections with the friends that I make even if it’s just to check on them or to go out for a cup of coffee as friends.  

I am not going to delve on this post into my screening process, my personality during a meeting, or what happens during a rendezvous with me. This simply isn’t the forum for that. But, I will say that those who have seen me, know me, or have reviewed me, know why I am who I am.  

I have heard nothing but positive things about the ladies and gents on this site during my time here. And as you see in my posts I am quite thankful for the outpouring of love I receive. When this thread went live – I had no less than 30 messages telling me I needed to check the boards. I must be doing something right. And while I don’t make the meet and greets due to my busy schedule, film projects, photos or what have you – I do pay attention.

I got into the adult media world after dying on the table during brain surgery and losing my musical talent. I did that for a career. I got into hobby world for fun. It should always be fun. We … We should always have fun in this.  

‘Players2’ – I appreciate the kind words towards my personality and spirit. The public forum wasn’t the best place to single someone out, but, I respect your opinion.  

I will close with this. My offer is out there to ANYONE on this thread who wants to enjoy lunch. My treat. Just a great time with a great new friend. No encounter, no subversive intent, no gimmick.  

Just give me a shout when I am in town and I will do my best to adjust my schedule to yours.

Thank you all for being so awesome and allowing my response. After this, I have nothing further to add and will not be responding to any more of this thread.  

Yours,

Aspe

I absolutely love curvy women, and have given great feedback and reviews.  I've seen plenty of thin models with 9 or 10 scores who did little for me.

I've never met Aspen Edwards, but she is very high on my wish list.  I have no idea if she's a 10 in person, but she's more attractive to me than many (I'm not naming names).  That means nothing other than the fact I have a preferred type.

Unless we're all going in blind (surprise sessions are fun) then we are already seeing someone we are attracted to.

AE's reviews and performance shouldn't be surprising.  The most fantastic session I've had in the last year is with someone who might be called curvy, I'd call her perfect.

Excellent reply  

Seriously, can you say classy? If I were on the other side of the provider/client fence I'd be running to make a date with this awesome chick. Great work Aspen!

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but I don't go around making OP calling out women for being (to my way of thinking fat or even old) Or at least I don't unless they are grossly misrepresenting themselves as young or thin when in truth they are neither.

That's why I took issue with the OP. AE is what she is, she doesn't photo shop her pics, she doesn't (at least not to my knowledge) trim a decade of more off of her age. From every thing I have heard by even her detractors, she is EXACTLY as advertised AND gives a great performance. Whether I (or the OP) find her attractive or someone I would want to book with really is not relevant, with all the outright fraud in the review system to  be bashing some woman just because he doesn't find her attractive is mean spirited and classless to me. I mean she doesn't even blur her pics, so anyone who doesn't find her attractive knows in advance exactly what they are getting.

I will be the first man here to speak out against fraud and deception and I too agree that grade inflation is a huge problem, but I would much rather call out a woman for bad behavior instead calling her out for eating a few too many Twinkies for my taste. Also, as much as I hate to admit it. Curvy women seem to garner an even better following than the young, slim hardbodies that are "my type"

Shit, how do I get any provider to schedule with me!

...A,E. a perfect 10-10-10....CLASS CLASS CLASS

WOW! After reading this tremendous response, I need to get my butt to Atlanta and meet this person with a gorgeous mind and body!

Well said Ginger!

Aspen, whoever started this thread did you a favor.  Honestly, I never heard of you but just checked out your web site....wow

Now, some of the conspiracy theorists will say Aspen ginned up this controversy to get even more publicity.  Honestly, I don't think you need to go to those lengths, because you have so much to offer.

While your web site shows that you are a very beautiful woman, this post shows that you have a beautiful mind as well.

TER Guidelines on looks are NOT specific.. Dude have you been drinking lake water?  

The guidelines for performance ARE extremely specific. And judging from the reviews I'd say she met the criteria.

Yes, the system is flawed...No, it will never be perfect.  

Ladies, don't pay attention to your ranking in the local top 100...Do what you do and let the scores fall where they may.

your reviews should be as honest and objective as possible since a TER staff member will verify them. Even so, actual experiences still vary due to the simple fact that everyone has their own opinion. A lady’s performance may also vary from client to client, or from one encounter to the next, so please try to be fair. Please use the rating system below to express your thoughts on and experiences with each provider. Tell us how the provider measured up to your expectations. Also, save the 8 and 9 appearance ratings for ultra-special ladies. The 10 rating should be reserved for a provider who just lived up to your most powerful fantasy.

To rate the provider’s appearance and performance, please use the following:
  RATING   LOOKS  
10 She was a one in a million.
9 She was model material.
8 She was really hot.
7 She was attractive.
6 She was nice looking.
5 She was plain looking
4 OK, If you are drunk
3 She was fairly homely.
2 She was simply ugly.
1 I was really scared.

That very ambiguous guideline hardly backs your words  

"ter guidelines for looks are very specific."

Bullshit. TER guidelines are anything but specific. Why don't you just admit you stepped in it this time and call it a day? You now are simply digging a deeper and deeper hole for yourself, and this is coming from a guy who completely agrees with you about grade inflation and the lack of standards by the typical TER reviewer. If I can't support you on this, no one is going to.

The numerical system for looks have been broken for a VERY long time. Personally, looking through the top ten for Atlanta, I don't see even one ten, and by my taste only one nine, but that doesn't mean I am going to launch an OP criticizing all the ladies I don't think measure up if they are honest about their looks. IMO any hooker who is within 5 years and 10 pounds of how she looks in the pics passes the honesty test. I can't imagine anyone being more honest about her looks than Aspen. What you see certainly appears to be "what you get" why you chose her to pick on is beyond me

Player actually made me look like a "nice guy" in comparison, but we can't have that happening, I  have a reputation to uphold. I guess I need to go pick a fight with someone so the board won't think I've gone soft. lol

Your list of definitions is NOT TERs. Some are close but you can not redefine them.  

I have had issue with TERS system since day one, especially around some of the definitions. A 10 is defined as "one in a lifetime" by TER, not "one in a million" .To me this means to me (and I tend to be literal) is that each reviewer should only have single 10 looks review and a single 10 performance review.  If a reviewer finds a provider that surpasses his previous 10 review he should have to down grade that one 9 to install the new 10, again "one in a lifetime" is just that 1. Now if TER used something like "perfect" or some such I would have far less issue (perfection is repeatable).

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You're still as big an asshole as ever lol   You're such a fucking whore too! :

I would hate to fuck up in a matter of days what it took me over a decade to build.

Isn't it ironic how this thread turned out as opposed to the thread calling out VIP Veronica a few weeks back? It appears that Aspen has a pretty good following willing to stand behind here, whereas VV, well lets just say her White Knights must have all had other things to attend to that day. lol

Not that it really matters, but I didn't even have a clue as to who Aspen was until this thread. I don't look at the top list, she's not my type and she doesn't come on the discussion boards to run her mouth like some of you/us do. It doesn't look like she has made too many people unhappy but the OP though. You would think if she had, at least a few of them would have taken this opportunity to throw some kerosene on the fire. Yes, I think she should send Player a thank you card, I can't imagine how this thread could help but be good for her business.

The hobbyists who have chosen to see and review her, did so because to them she is a 10/10. As many have said already, everyone has their own preference.

is setting themselves up for disappointment.  Especially when pictures are available.
I will say this, a woman that sucks my dick is always an attractive woman and a
lady of class!  lol also the scores I assign in reviews are accurate within the margin of error.

A joke GaG and I have been doing for YEARS. Thanks for the breakdown though ;

I have a well deserved reputation as an asshole (and a man whore of course), but I am not a mean asshole, just a fun loving asshole with a low tolerance for stupidity and a sense of "fair play"

I've been nothing but nice to you. HOWEVER,  you sending me hateful, threatening PMs over a silly post is at most LAUGHABLE!  NO worries,  you can play "nice" on the boards all you want. but thank goodness i have your PMs and have the ability to hit IGNORE  
take care
Love TL

Can't disagree with your response in terms of practicality.  There are differences is taste, but by the same token you would not say that an Aston Martin and a Kia Soul can be considered similar subject to personal preference.  If I could afford the Aston Martin the Kia Soul would not even be in my radar screen.  Now when we compare the Aston to a Ferrari, or a Jaguar or a Mercedes coupe or a Tesla, or even a Corvette you could say there are taste differences.  So a ten is a ten and a five is a five.  I could accept a point or two either way for preferences.  

Not being arrogant here, but if I was rated it would definitely be in the middle of the pack (never walked into a bar and had women throw their panties at me), but I know some women think I am attractive and some do not.  

I kind of appreciate the OP for putting himself out there on this issue.  It is one of those topics on which everyone has an opinion to the exclusion of others.

By the way, you would rate well on my scale so do not fret.

I wish people would pay me but I'm not gay and not many women would pay for this 57 yr old to rock their world but nice try aspen or friend of aspen calling me a provider. I can only dream I was one darlin.

I agree, definitely a provider using her alias to bash another provider, too much time on her hands I guess