I agree with your short version response.

I had a conversation last night with a fellow hobbyist on the subject and was wondering what others thoughts were about this.I know that this could be a sensitive subject so feel free to pm or us an alias. For the guys do you have any expectations other than provider hobbyist relationship when giving gifts to the ladies? Do you feel it should give you priority status or special treatment? What is your motivation?  For the ladies how often have you been in a situation where you felt an implied expectation  when a hobbyist gave you a gift?  This was my response (the short version) Give a gift because it simply is what you want to do for that person not because you expect anything special in return. Let's face it guys most of the ladies can afford to buy most anything we could give as a gift without the strings attached so if the motives are not pure then just DON'T! Let me hear your thoughts. LTC

If a gift has expectations on the part of the giver, then its not a gift. When I give a gift to a provider, it is an honest expression of gratitude or friendship. I expect nothing in return. Maybe I'm just an old fart and am outdated, but that's my opinion.

I do not feel they are expecting anything outside of an already great relationship.  I get gifts once in a while and I have to say I really like getting gifts, who doesnt, but it does make you smile a little bigger than most days.

Agree with you, a gift is exactly that,  a gift with no expected return compensation. (Although an appreciative smile is always nice ). Just another way to let the lady you're spending time with, know you appreciate all they do to put a smile on your face.

mmmmm and it sure makes me smile bigger when I see you IN those gifts!!!!  You looked GREAT in this!

I feel that my clients ARE my gift as they bring a HUGE smile on my face. Thanks to all of my handsome men. (Boy I sure am lucky)  XXX Scottie P.S. Though its special to get a nice thought out card I must say.

Well said Sydney!  I for one have a happier day after seeing a beautiful smile at an unexpected gift.  The key is to care, at what ever level that is.  The true gift is the act of caring.  We are all more alike than different in this respect

I strongly agree with you and others' view on this: a gift must be no strings attached. I have given gifts to providers ... frankly no expectations at all. However, a (completely unexpected) later acknowledgement does make me cheer up  a little. For example, a provider wrote back how a starbucks gift was keeping her warm many times during last winter ... that put a smile on my face.
Once again no strings attached is the rule for me.

Let me share one situation that had me puzzled for a while ... but then I stopped thinking abt it. Here it goes. This is just for your reading only ... I do not want to start a thread on this further :

Well, let's say it was a jewlery item that looked great on this blonde provider that is still my ATF. It was not an ordinary piece that I bot in JCPenny or something (that itself is agreat gift though) ... I was traveling far far away from this land and picked it up for her. She looked great in it; the day I gave it to her she could not believe it ... we had a great session. When we were cuddling I showed her on the google's earth which shore line those gems came from (yes, you can cuddle with laptop in the bed, LOL). Something like this followed then:
She volunterred: "I will wear them for you whenever we have sessions in the future ..."
Me: "Well ... you do not have to; it is a gift - I want you to enjoy it the way it fits best. Of course, I would love to see you and make love to you you wearing that peice only ..."
We laughed together ...
She: "yes, of course we will ..."
It has been almost a year and I have seen her many times since then ... but without that gift adoring her. I playfully reminded her abt her offer to wear it ... to be fair to her, she told me that she is fearful she might lose it or it might get stolen (when sharing rooms etc.) She does assure me she wears it for special occasions in her personal life; her relatives ask her about it ... they all 'wow' it. I do believe her and I am truely happy that she enjoys it that way - which was my original intent in the first place; but then she did elevated my expectation ... oh well, she is still my ATF!

Sorry for the long narrative; but you brought up the subject of expectation ... which is indeed a complex subject!

Gentle

I do believe every woman loves gifts, I know I do but the only thing I expect is freindship AND the gift of pleasure between the two of us.  I honestly have never felt an implied expectation when recieving a gift. The gents that bring gifts to me have been just that, COMPLETE GENTLEMEN that only want to have fun with no further expectations from me. I do expect us both to give the gift of great orgasms though!! That is a gift that just keeps on giving!! LOL!
It is a special gift to share the time we have together.
Hugs and kisses
TL