It seems that if a woman wants to keep her man home she could
very easily read reviews on TER.  There is a comon theme: be pleasant, attractive, and sexually adventurous.  If providers can figure these things out why can't wives?  Or why won't they?

your wives already know... thats how they 'got' you
why wont they? prolly the same reason husbands dont flatter, pet, woo, try, listen etc... the chase is over, the game is won.

biologically, women have the imperative to find the One man to breed with/be a provider for her children, to ensure Her genes make it to the next generation.
biologically, men have the imperative to spread it around to ensure the highest possible number of his genes making it to the next generation.

men (sorry about the generalization) dont keep wooing their wives to ensure they stay responsive and women dont have to stay responsive cos if you leave, she gets half.
is just the way it is.

kinda like theres always gonna be charming ladies willing to stroke you the right way, for a price.


jmho,
Nic

(ready? set. flame?)

Nicole, That is an excellent reply and oh so true. How many married men don't say on a regular basis that they love their wives,think they are pretty, beautiful or appreciated. Take them flowers just because, surprise them with a nice dinner "in" that they cooked and a nice relaxing bubble bath just for her, no strings attached.

I'll tell you married guys what, I'll start wooing your wives and I'll have all the fun your having except it will be while your at work and for free, except for the flowers , wine and massage oil!

Actually, the downside might be that some fo your wives might not be as lovely as some of the wonderful providers I have been priviledged to see.
Good Hunting!
Pheonix

I agree completely, but also it's the fact that the gents can come see us and they don't have to deal with the everyday constant drama in their lifes!  I am a firm believer that bad drama is the worse part of any relationship.  Passion is one of the greatest feelings we have in life and bad drama takes the passion all out of any relationships!

Just my opinion, they are like ass holes we all have one!  LOL

Hugs for now,
Kris

you hit the nail on the head lol... so to speak..

IMHO, the view expressed is very ancient and probably based on puritanical view of anything thatm feels good is bad for you.

1) Sex and morality are not related

2) There is nothing wrong in being with more than one person. Monogamy is an overblown concept and created and promoted for solving an ancient social problem,has nothing to do with modern life.

3) If one study ancient history, one understands the fact that, men being hunters died at a very young age. As human beings, became an agricultural
society, the social rules had to be changed, because men lived longer (not being killed by animals becuase the need to hunt animals for food decreased). Men had sex with many women and had children (no birth control pills) so,  called leaders created new rules and one of them was monogamy, and the concept of sin, heaven and hell just to reduce the number of children fathered by one man with multiple women. Study few tribes living in the Amazon and the jungles in Indonesia.

4) Today, both men and women live longer, they learn and grow in different direction, their views change, their goals in life change (a good thing) and live longer and makes it impossible to feel the same way for 20, 30 or 40 years in some cases.  Both are looking for a changes and to find something they are looking for in life. Humans are basically curious explorers so, they explore and change. Just take look at the number of divorces after the children are grown and leave the house to make thier own living. I have few friends, who went through divorces after their children were grown and left the house. They feel like, they have done their responsibility, the society expects. The amazing thing is, most of these divorces are friendly and congenial, must be the truthful  discussion of their feelings-don't know.

5) IMHO, none of us are created to live with person day in and day out for 20, 30, 40 years saying " I Love You" every day and make it come out as genuine, sincere and with real feeling- I know I can't. Being unsincere makes it difficult to say or do anything and the other person knows it but, may not say it.

I guess we all of us need to take look back to understand the realities of modern life and shed some of the old views and beliefs we try and hold on to making our lives stressful. I know I am trying, haven't got there yet but hope to one day!

Just my 02.

your views would work perfectly, but we are not in a perfect world, and when 2 people marry it's until death do them part. Well it's supposed to be anyway , but divorce is rampant. I myself have tried the open relationship, polyamory and swinging. It didn't work for me or my husband. I honestly believe in my heart that there is sex and then there is making love. In a client provider encounter it is sex, it is a fantasy being fullfilled in exchange for money...if you could get that fantasy for free, or if you weren't being paid for it then would it even be happening? There is no love involved, it's business.  I do believe that the provider gets alot out of that fantasy as does the client, after all a fantasy can benefit both parties and help them both escape for awhile. In a marriage....well ok to be fair marriage can be like the client provider relationship to at times LOL sometimes.  The husband gives up his paycheck, does things around the house the wife wants done and then he gets to make love with his wife minus the fantasy LOL. Generally in marriage when you love your spouse then your making love when you come together sexually. When I am with my husband I give all of myself, and it is like a fantasy each time. Somehow we have managed to keep the spark and the passion. We have our problems but we seem to work, and I can't immagine not going through life not hearing the I love you's every day. I know they are, and always will be real and heart felt. When I am with a client I give all of myself also, minus that part of myself that I can only give to my husband because I am in love with him. make any sense? The client provider experience is so wonderful because it's a fantasy. Real life and reality aren't so pretty and thats what we all go home to.   just my 02

"the view expressed is very ancient and probably based on puritanical view of anything thatm[sic] feels good is bad for you"

ME ? puritanical??
LOL
or were you just calling me old?


sweetie, i dont disagree with your supporting statements, but my statement is based on modern, ongoing sociological research (out of england)...that it is propped up by my own, incedental, research just lends credit to the theory, in my book

your #5 could have been another paragraph in my post, really...
after millions of years of breeding we have the biological imperatives i stated... a few hundred years of sociological/religious morality arent going to change us... its US that have to come to terms with our biology.

in response to the original post... if wives want to keep their husbands home, why dont they...
What was your answer?


i still dont think a lady who has a husband with wanderlust will be able to keep him home for ever.
we Are a haven from reality.
we Are comfort, thrills, release, entertainment, succor, variety, convenience, conquest and yes, sometimes friends.
but i think its the very fact that we Arent 'the Wife' that makes us so damn appealing in the first place

that we can, occasionally, edify you in the process is lagnaippe


but hey, who needs to listen to me?  i'm just an over-educated whore with a computer and internet access...
LOL

Nic

Fist of all the opinion expressed is my view and not meant to be a counter point. I don't believe we have met, hence i really don't know your age or education or what you do.

Besides, let us not get into how much education one has. Unfortunatley or fortunatley I have plenty. Have plenty of understanding of research and how it is done, tabulated and how hypothesis are created, etc... Have a graduate degree in Mathematics and understand Statistics quite well.

The opinion I expressed is based on my own reading,  reasoning, logic and hypothesis.

Don't take it personally. Acquiring konwledge and understanding is an endless process. Besides you are coming across like someone who is going to an University to get a degree. I applaud you for your determination. Getting a degree is just key to open the door to acquire knowledge. It is means to an end not the end in itself.

Please don't take it personally and be offended by other views.

i'm not offended, i was giggling and smiling as i asked you if you were calling me (ME?) puritanical... granted, i'm rather vanilla, but i've still gotta be somewhat liberated to be enjoying my job as much as i do...
and if you were calling me old, well.  thats just your perspective... i Am older than 20 but younger than 40... which isnt old, to me


my biggest prollem when i join a thread is you cant see my face and my punctuation and emoticons just dont fully convey...

and, historically/generally/etc. i am over educated for a whore.  but i was Really, not calling myself over-educated, nor a whore.
i was acting the mouth of derision... i suppose i can add self-deprecating humor to the list of things that dont convey

I am a Courtesean.


hugs to you,
Nic

Sorry forgot the eom.

-- Modified on 7/16/2003 4:15:45 PM

when your brain decodes what it sees into what it can understand?
LOL

and in the spirit of condinuing edification... EOM means End Of Message.
and Lagniappe is a gift, free stuff, a bonus.

Everybody, whether they are a male or female, like to have something a little strange now and then...its exciting, interesting, and down right out fun to get a little "strange" nice stuff to make life more exciting.

Corey

Everyone is getting a little too deep & technical in reference to such a simple question.It dosen't take a degree to have common sense.In fact,I know many people who have several degrees,but lack common sense on a very high level.Without common sense,a degree is worth very little in many respects.You may be able to hold down a job & formulate an educated sounding sentence,paragraph,etc...But if your talking alot & not saying much in reference to the point of the topic or conversation,then your really not saying anything at all.                        If your someone who is satisfied with just holding down a good job,then your not really living.Creativity & originality is the breath of life & you don't always need alot of degrees to be self employed.                                                  I know alot of individuals with only a high school diploma & some trade school that are the some of the richest people out there.In fact a good percentage of millionares are among this genre.All they had was 'a dollar & a dream' & they made it happen.                                                        As to the original topic;pay your wife by the hour & see how exiting your marriage becomes.

I would submit the issue is more of a man desiring variety.  Most men don't "stick" with one provider. They enjoy the variety.  While a wife not keeping herself up and not being adventurous, likely does help drive a man's need for variety.

I just wanted to see how many people would still click the message.  

I always click the message -- looking for 'easter eggs' like yours.