Was thinking about an overnight with my ATF and was wondering what suggestions, advice or warnings folks might give. Have never done this and before and given my age was worried about things as the sometimes frequent nightly bathroom trips.

Gals tend to negotiate those babies down to about a 31-32% off rack rate, but you have to start lower obviously with your first salvo.

I recommend at least one or two longer dinner date type situations with her where you get to spend time in conversation, etc. so you can see if you want to be cooped up together in a bed all night.

Much appreciated.

O recommend having a guest room available in case one of you tosses or has a bad snoring  problem. a few hours apart might save a middle of the nite drive home Many people suffer from restless leg or any number of other problems. I'd rather get a little rest than face a frustrated tired partner in the morning.

It's a ton of money.  

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Oh that makes sense. LOL

I've done a few overnighters with various ATFs over the years. Although in each case, we were aware of each other pet peeves well before we even spent that amount of time together. In various past discussion on this subject, I've heard some providers mention that snoring can be an issue for obvious reasons. So, you should take that into consideration. In regards to frequent bathroom trips, I often made 1-2 during the night, especially if I drank too many liquids late at night, but it was never an issue.

...which means she has to act even MORE than usual that she's glad to see your little dick?

Not saying it is a bad thing, just asking if you have thought out what it is you wish to get out of an overnight?  If you wish to spend an extended time, why not a long daytime/evening date?  You could start with lunch, do something interesting,  go have some private time, have dinner then go back again for more private time then say goodnight.  On the other hand, it is nice to have a beautiful lady go to sleep in your arms then wake to her giving your morning wood a nice wakeup call.

It always seems to get to the two kinds of mongers.  Those who hate women and want to fuck and those who love and respect women and want to have an NSA encounter.  
At least the former make the latter look good.  We are the ones that get that little bit extra in the sessions.

... is to consider her opportunity cost. That's how my ATF looked at it when we did overnights.  Since she had nothing published about overnights, I asked her for her thoughts on the rate, and she figured how much she could make if she weren't doing the overnight, and factored in that I'd be treating her to a nice dinner.  Since she hardly ever does nighttime appointments, she suggested an overnight rate that was about the same as her 3 hour rate--fair for her in terms of income, and I think a good deal for me.  But some providers have set prices for overnights and are insulted by negotiating, so check their websites first to see what they say about overnights.  

with the a favorite is really like a hazy out of body (or in body maybe, lol) dream to me. We can take our time to play and play again. Have a glass of wine and/or a snack - have some conversation and sleeping. Then through the night in a semi-sleep, some spooning until about 4 or 5  when the blood starts boiling again and just before the sun rises, the cock grows. Take care of that and a little more snoozing and maybe another round before getting up.

Again, wanted to thank everyone for their advice and suggestions.

Knowing you are going to spend the night together means that neither party has to watch their alcohol intake during the evening to make sure they are "ok" to drive home at the end of the night.

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and some that were up to twice that amount.  One SB came over to my house for the same gift I always gave her.  We had sex in the evening, middle of the night, and the following morning. Another wanted twice the regular rate to stay all night but we only had sex once.  So it really varies.  If you have a routine established with the girl and a regular gift amount, start there and see.  She may not even expect any more since the overnight is a rare special kind of date.  If she asks for more then you can negotiate.  I enjoy overnights, so these days when I'm talking to a new POT SB about what kind of arrangement I am seeking I usually say I'd like an occasional overnight.  Just to get the idea into her head at an early stage. But all my recent regular SBs have agreed to an occasional overnight.

and very few providers are going to do overnights for anything even close to her hourly rate. I think a provider who charges five times her hourly rate for an overnighter is probably in the right ballpark.

Getting old is mandatory but growing up is optional.

maybe during your next date. You don't necessarily have to say "I want to do an overnight with you" - that'll protect you from it being expected after mention if you're worried about that

Sure, I get it. That's why I made it clear I was tallking about a SB. That's not forbidden here is it

This is great advice. Best to go slow and let the provider talk you through the possibility of an overnight first, and once she seems open to it, get into more specific questions.  

Over rated.  I suggest. A late night date then an early morning tryst
And save your money. Have breakfast waiting
Save a lot of money and get the benefit
Sleep thru the night

and actually it's the opposite of helpful to someone asking about hooker rates.

If you are as much of a favorite to her as she is to you, I am sure she will overlook any nightly bathroom trips. I find overnights with a client whom I have known for a while and like his company to be similar to spending the night with a steady bf ... guess why they call it gfe. If you have been a regular, she should be gracious and cut you some slack on the donation.

To really enjoy an overnight, let HER make any and all moves on a discount. I've found that if you treat ladies right, give them some space, let them get paid to eat and sleep and tan and go to the spa, they'll treat you right!! And more often than not, the offer to duplicate the trip with a discount more often than not follows. If it doesn't then you have a decision to make. Did I ever tell you about my ATF who RAISED her O/N fee on me after a year of me putting tons of money in her pocket mostly for overnights? THAT was quite the learning experience.

Just wanted to thank everyone again for helpful and insightful suggestions. Finally took the plunge and it was  a lot of fun.

Sounds like a great way to end the year. It would be great to get a few details about how it went ...