I could see potentially hitting a high-end escort for a "once in lifetime" experience, and that could make sense for the gal as well. With verification and reviews, a pro could breeze into town and get 10 or more dates in a few dates and then move on to the next city.
For the SB it's more complicated because the process is lengthier. The advantage for her is that she gets to choose who she wants, but time and energy is needed on both sides to make this work. I suppose it's possible for these gals to pick up a mogul or athlete, but they are more likely to spit this girl out after one or two sessions, just because they can.
I know we've discussed prices and allowances before and most of us here hold the line well.
Just curious to see the number of SBs requesting $1k or more for a meetup. Obviously there are possibly a few takers and it's true escorts are getting this too.. but...
To afford on any regular basis guys would probably need to fork over 50k a year including all the extras, which would probably mean 500k in income which would mean 0.7 percent of the population (probably a lot less since many are not SDs).
Wondering where this comes from. Maybe some gals will not really want to do this but will be OK if the price is high enough.
But my impression the guys who can afford this are probably not going to give them the consistency and relationship they probably want. I don't negotiate like this but it seems these gals are leaving a lot on the table.
Interested to hear any experiences with these high rollers (and if any SBs are on here, feel free to chime in).
I'n new to the bowl, but have found hotties (8-10s) asking for 800-1K to meet.
At least they texted me their request before the meetup which saved me time.
Way above my budget. I can score a provide with amazing skills in that price range.
Hold out until you find SB's in your budget.
Why pay more for an hour with an SB than with a pro?
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As for their attitude, some won't settle. All you can do is move on.
And that means the true hotties know their premium. Esp in SoCal where I live
Beauty standards apparently have changed and even unfit , outright fat women are demanding 400 now. I just pass, not my thing
You have to patiently wait for someone who is not drop dead gorgeous but just a notch below and still fit and thin to make it worthwhile at 500-600
You prob won’t get anyone decent below that, at-least if your definition of beauty standards is from 90s/2000s
There was a gal with looks of 8-8.5 visiting my area and we matched, I was offering 400 but could have gone to 500. She basically laughed me off saying she get 1-1.5k, so we said goodbye
Thing is, 99 percent sure she’s going home with zilch when she could’ve had at least 5 and maybe double for 2 meets (and also have fun with me!) This what.. protecting her ‘brand’?
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It is an interesting phenomena and extends to other types of discretionary spending. For example, pre-pandemic I took a SB to the Ritz Carlton at Laguna Beach. Room was around $600 per nite. Today, you can't touch a room for less than $1300-1500. Same for other luxury hotels, such as the Malibu Beach Inn and Shutters. I think this cost explosion is a lingering effect of the pandemic. My hunch is that folks became much less resistant to overspending and taking on debt. Is it sustainable? Probably not. I believe the day of reckoning is coming. How severe it will be is anyone's guess. Doubling the price of the same freaking hotel and the same provider/SB in a space of 3 years just isn't sustainable or sensible from an economic standpoint. I agree with you that the "base" isn't large enough to support these prices.
There are several types of sugar babes out there. Some are looking for the pretty woman fantasy. Some are just looking to date/marry rich guys. Of those looking mostly for an income, some are just seeking supplemental income, and some are more desperate.
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Some of us are just fishing in the income seeker pool, not being rich or particularly handsome. The SB's who are just looking for supplemental income are probably more picky and demanding a higher price tag. They don't need the cash as they probably have regular jobs. Naturally they could be making more by charging less and dating more often, but they just aren't that motivated and instead opt for the occasional big haul or the fantasy of the big haul.
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The more desperate type, if they have any numerical sense, would be wise to cut their rates and date more often, like the K-girl model. Unfortunately, they're probably desperate because they aren't rational thinkers, and those who have high rates anyway and no customers are usually too proud or too status conscious.
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So the desperate types set the price floor, and the pretty woman wannabes set the price ceiling.
I could see potentially hitting a high-end escort for a "once in lifetime" experience, and that could make sense for the gal as well. With verification and reviews, a pro could breeze into town and get 10 or more dates in a few dates and then move on to the next city.
For the SB it's more complicated because the process is lengthier. The advantage for her is that she gets to choose who she wants, but time and energy is needed on both sides to make this work. I suppose it's possible for these gals to pick up a mogul or athlete, but they are more likely to spit this girl out after one or two sessions, just because they can.
6-7 years ago I met a girl on Seeking who I gave $1k, twice. My methods were different then. I wouldn't have entertained it had I known the cost before we met.
Back then my goal was getting free pussy on SA, and I got a fair amount of it, so I hadn't yet refined negotiation. We met at the bar at a fancy restaurant. She was easily a 9, poised, the kind of girl who turns heads. She reveled being with me in the gaze of strangers. Her age early 30s, Egyptian-American. At one point she just leaned from her barstool into my ear and said, "It's a thousand bucks for the night and everything you want." Deal sealed right there. At that point I had never given more than $300 to an SA girl.
She was a 9 but the sex all night and onto morning was a 10. I saw her again under the same terms. I then realized I wasn't going to pay $1k for every overnight date. I changed my SA approach and found plenty of 8s for $300.
These days I limit myself to $500 even in DC and NYC. I often score for $400. Quite a few ask for $800 or much more. I have no regrets walking away if they won't meet me at $500. I think that number is a psychological ceiling to me since I remember getting plenty of great girls years ago @$240.
I was going to make this a new post, but your post set the stage rather well...
I met a POT who lives within 3 miles of me. Early 20's, AA spinner, very pretty and I liked the personality she projected in her profile text. We connected on the site and quickly moved to text. After the initial "Hi, it's me" messages I was just about to suggest a M&G when she sent me this message:
"My numbers are 600 for no oral and protection 800 for oral and protected sex 1200 for unprotected and oral 1500 for overnight. And I don't drive but I can host. I have a big loft and stay alone in (location). We can just schedule the day. We can go for lunch or dinner as well if you want to before we enjoy ourselves further or order in."
I was stunned. That rarely happens (to me) in the Sugar Bowl, and I presume she's an UTR hooker trying to expand her client list. Good for her. Bad for me. (BTW: I could not find any evidence of hooker ads or reviews...)
I replied:
"Hmmm....
I appreciate your straightforward candor.
Those numbers are well over my usual budget - around 350-450 for unprotected everything for 3-4 hours, plus a nice dinner.
I won't insult you by asking you to meet my range. Good luck in your search."
I was expecting her to retort viciously or block me. She did neither. Instead, she "hearted" my last text message. Now this was one of about 15 POT's I spoke with in the last 6 weeks. So not the norm, but definitely part of mix.
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