I've had three instances recently where a provider who I had an absolutely stellar time with (and said so in a subsequent review) gave lame excuses or simply orchestrated the session so as to be no more than a quick 'Blow-n-go" on the second visit.  

   One provider told me she "nicked herself' shaving around her starfish which effectively precluded the entire reason I returned(anal play). Another ignored several polite but earnest requests by me too back-off on her BBBJ because I didn't want to cum to quickly. She didn't, I did, and the session was a waste of good money in my opinion. And another provider who initially gave me a ride up her o'l dirt road like I never before had developed a sphincter so tight you couldn't get a greased BB up there without causing discomfort on my second visit.  

Repeat business is the holy grail for most enterprises, and with the constant waves of new competition filling the pages of the escort malls I'd think being 'on your game' for a return client would be paramount.

  Reviews CAN be re-written ladies, and TER doesn't care if it's within weeks or years.

go visit your eye doctor.  

it has nothing to do with being shortsighted, it all has to do how the provider perceives you.  

that provider who nicked her anus with her razor must have gorilla hair down there.  

might want to take up another hobby like knitting before you make a complete ass out of yourself.
 

it makes no sense at all......  

what it is, is typical in certain segments of the hooker marketplace -  all of the effort  is put into getting a good review and or a repeat client -

once you put yourself into enthusiastic repeat client territory,   service drops off -

one of the reasons why I very very rarely re-visit anymore.....

The common denominator was, him.

As far as I can tell, every lady that I have seen multiple times were glad to see me again. Certainly not because I'm a gorgeous stud, because, well I'm not. But I for one have not experienced a decline on second, third etc. appointments. Knock on wood.

I've seen this as well but usually not at the higher end of the market -

this is one of the reasons why I pretty much stick with k-agencies these days -  and why I rarely revisit.....

there are top notch GFE providers out there who care more about a select long term repeat clientele -   but even there,   the old saying "familiarity breeds contempt" can come into play - it's human nature to take the people who are regularly in your life (whether real life or whatever "this" is....)   for granted....

so if you're going to repeat with providers my advice is to keep some distance and keep the frequency low.   There is a strong potential for an inverse relationship in my opinion between frequency and performance

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I'm very easy to work with, my hygiene/manscaping is arguably above average, teeth are well brushed immediately prior, "rough" is the antithesis of how I play, give and take is the name of the game, ALWAYS shave extra close with a new blade just prior, and I'm so "creepy" I have both UTRs and a TER award winner and longtime perennial as ATFs.  

  So now that you have sought too impugn me why don't you simply take my kind advice and smarten-up your act(s).  
 

I repeat with many women and I've rarely had one of them deliver a lackluster performance on subsequent visits.  Just had a three-peat yesterday and it was great.

Perhaps you shouldn't write stellar reviews of providers you plan on seeing again. Wait until her performance becomes exiguous. Then write the appropriate corresponding review.

And in addition to that if a girl figures you for a mark/easy they'll treat you as such.  

Unless you believe that you truly have chemistry and she didn't just sell you a great experience (which is her/our job) then yeah don't repeat too often

some of these providers would lose their attitudes and do their jobs. I would never leave a good review stand under those circumstances.  

Many of these "college" educated hookers still think with their tits and pussies.

You burned a lot of bridges with indy girls by vastly overstaying your time due to these "difficulties." Guys who passive-agressively guilt providers into letting them stay 40, 60, 90 minutes over the compensated time because they can't orgasm, often find said providers mysteriously "busy" or "away on a trip" when they call or email for future sessions.  

"Oh my gosh. I don't know WHAT is wrong with me today... This sort of thing NEVER happens to me, I swear!"

(Insert eye-rolling icon here.)

I wanted to just change a single sentence, but the edited review was rejected, and I was told that reviews cannot be edited after they are approved. Another time I wanted to make a more substantial change, but was rejected for the same reason. I was told that I could only do a different review if I saw the provider again

You also have a point that service drops off w/regulars...sometimes, we do take them for granted. It's one of those things I've learned to guard against doing. IMO, though, the OP's case (especially as it's after just one appointment) seems a bit extreme. There is a difference between taking a regular for granted, and trying to muster through an appointment that is overwhelmingly dreadful for some reason. What he described sounds like the latter, to me.  

It's a testament to how much energy and concentrated effort, both physical and emotional, goes into a session. If it's a challenging session, it's especially difficult. If I get a feeling like 'I just can't do it again,' I won't do the appointment. That's now. But when I was newer, I'd just say, 'Well, maybe it won't be as bad this time...I'll get through it'. For instance, I used to have two regulars with huge penises who wanted four-hour bedroom all-action dates. I'd steel myself mentally. Before and during, I'd even do shots of Captain...it did help. But after a while, they became so very challenging to face, that any mental exercises I did, and the Captain, were rendered useless. I became unable to face them. (This was years ago, not now. Now I rarely drink before appointments and only during the date if the client wishes to...and I'd just decline second dates from men like that in a heartbeat)

I'm pretty sure I did something like what the OP said a few times, working for agencies. I'd get through some appointment on adrenaline...or something. But when I'd see them again, my heart would just sink the moment they walked through the door.  

If he's seeing independents, then they should probably decline the appointment if they're not up to it

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of someone you have previously seen....  admin will then contact you and let you know that to get the new one approved it has to replace the old one - you won't get more VIP days -  you say "yep" and it's done.....

but you can't change an existing review after approval.....

You can't replace a review because you want to edit it. Once the review is posted it is the property of TER and if an edit is required there has to be a strong reason for it.  

To rewrite a review, there has to be some changes such as performance or appearance. Rewriting the same review at a later date is an abuse of the system.

The guy might be just way too much. First visit she took it and made the best of it but she clearly had trouble hence the backing off from stuff second time around.  

Listen not all clients are a joy, some are really difficult and  with that type I grin and bear it for the time but never see them again. There is no point. If those ladies could not deal with NEG the second time around they should not have booked him.  

If I cringe at the thought of seeing someone again, that is a great indicator I should not.

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so certainly it would be better as you advise to simply reject future dates with those whom you feel are such a bad fit that you dread seeing them - a provider is not doing herself or the client any favor to take that date....    

but I understand that a lot of ladies these days are under financial pressure...  

nonetheless in the long run I think both clients and providers are better off avoiding repeats that a provider is going to dread - or for that matter if she just feels that it is not a good match -    

we mongers can be pretty clueless about this though - after all a good provider can sell us that she is having a good time whether that is the case or not -

so - not to be unfair but rather just practical - the onus needs to be on the provider in this case to reject the repeat date -  the gent in question may have no clue that he has been unpleasant company....

I don't believe I "painted all providers with the same brush" I merely offered some advice on how to keep a client coming back.  If general constructive criticism is to be met with universal vitriolic defensiveness perhaps simply re-writing/re-scoring some reviews is the better tact for a hobbyist to take.    

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While your announcement is appreciated, the specific provider(s) in question will not take the post seriously unless you feed it to her/them. Instead, the ho peanut gallery will merely turn the tables on you and shift the blame.

a client whom she wouldn't be compatible with through her screening process?

Would not know it was the same guy. He went from someone who could lose an erection with a position change to super fucker who likes to pound the girls into the mattress.

...but needed the money anyway. Maybe you should adopt a two-visit rule before writing a review?

Some ladies just require some kind of chemistry to keep up the enthusiasm. When I've experienced a drop-off in performance it's because there was no real chemistry there besides the novelty of the "new."

Because she usually only finds out how difficult the guy is when seeing him the first time. The only way she might be able to weed out him BEFORE the meeting is if he puts something in his communication that makes her go "holy shit no way Jose".

And you "treat her right". A hooker doing a good job will make even the most difficult trick feel like she is so into him...and then mysteriously is never available after the first visit. You do not fall into that category, she re-booked and the service was up to par.

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I can most certainly use my writing abilities too ruin as well as regale.  

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But those hookers didn't seem too interested in having you back hence the lackluster performance.  

Sure they could be lazy and complacent, but they also may not have been able to deal with you. The common denominator here is you. Different hookers all backing off services with the same trick?

Nah these were just lazy ass hookers that didn't see the wonderful you, so hey, their loss right

And by judging their commonly loquacious and eager texts/e-mails professing their desire for my return your further attempts to sarcastically impugn fall effete.  

Not trying to impugn you at all. You might have added that little bit of info in the beginning that they were so incredibly into you. Then if that were the case, not sure why they dropped off services etc.  

And three different ladies, wow could this be the beginning of an epidemic?

But redundant sarcastic misandry such as yours does much to taint other providers perception as well as outlook.  

I am actually being decent to you and you still have to be a jerk. Well, not much I can do about your sour mood.  

So hows your redundant sarcastic misogyny working for you?

An interesting read here—this whole game of the expectation vs. the overwhelmed.  

Thanks for the post as a reminder that we should not take anyone for granted

If your passive aggressive sarcastic quips are your idea of "being decent" it's no wonder you have so much time to blather on these boards rather than attend to your supposed business.  

 Your loathing simply debases whatever little you have to say.  

You have a decidedly anti female edge to a great %age of your posts and your delivery suggests you really don't like women. I am a self admitted man hating bitch. So when are you going to admit your obvious loathing of women?  

I have repeatedly asked you to prove your assertions about me and my business but you seem to avoid that.  

It is so sad to hear about your unlucky forays with hookers. I guess your money is not enough for them to even act like they give a shit the second time they see you. To a fully engaged person that would indicate that they really can't stand you. You might have to keep looking to find a hooker who can deal with you a second time and keep her game face on. Best of luck!

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Screening doesn't tell you much about the client you are going to meet.

 
This thread was about repeat appointments where the level of intimacy has dropped off.  

 
Can't the lady politely decline the appointment request when she is not feeling intimate?

That's how you're imagining it, are you not, oh GhostWriteroftheDamned? Lol.

However, we live in this harsh unweilding place called REALITY. A place were escorts are busy sessioning with clients who DON'T spend all morning cluttering the boards with cranky posts whining about BLOW JOBS THAT WERE TOO GOOD and ASSHOLES THAT WERE TOO TIGHT!

What jewels can we expect to fall from your mouth next? Complaints about DEEP FRENCH KISSES THAT WERE TOO PASSIONATE? Lmao

and it's not just you, I do notice that a LOT of guys seem to have a lot of problems with the women they pay for sex.

I have to admit, if I had half the problems that some guys here seem to have, I'd change my hobby to golf, and just give up on pussy for good.

Yeah right, sure I would. lol

"Man hating bitch, meet Bitch hating man."

growing up with TWO caring older sisters as well as a loving, stay at home mom there is little that lends itself to a pathology of hating "women". A bitch is simply a "bitch" however.  
 

You want your sister... I knew it.

It sounds like repeat business is not top on the list of the providers who refused you.  

It can be numerous things. People have their moods as in likes and dislikes which can span from the fickle to the repugnant. Stuff happens and people change.

Just be secure in your own being and be on the look out for the rejection. Truly, rejection happens to all of us. (Or maybe you just had a string of bad luck with the three rejections you've stated.)

On-the-other-hand, if you went through as a repeat and it was lackluster, then write that review. It may not be taken seriously among a provider who has stellar reviews, but may lead for others to come forward to also write lackluster reviews to reveal a pattern. I always look for reviews up to date on providers, anyway.

Also, when things go south, I don’t believe it is uncommon for some providers due to health issues, burn-out, or lost interest to stay in it because that’s their main livelihood. It may be all that they know to maintain their standard of living. They don’t get out of it but go through it disinterested and complaining, although there are others that are better adjusted. (No different with guys who complain about their dislikes and those guys who take it in stride, also.)

Just saying, and it’s something to keep in mind that providers may change in how they conduct future sessions. Although, if they refuse to see you again, then move on. Is it really worth taking oneself too seriously

too a mouthpiece for harridans.  

After reading the tone of the post, I'm not sure I'm wrong.  
 

...who you were, so she accepted the appointment.

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WOW. Dates that included going dinner, sailing, such a romantic back then, so jaded and a blow hard now.

TER says if a guy has a different session-either better or worse with a gal he's seen before, he can submit a new review. Of course this means he had to have another session with her.

My hunch about the girl I wanna repeat usually turns out to be correct,  she is just as good if not better on subsequent visits.  

I guess it helps that I'm pretty laid back and I don't nit pick the girl for every minor thing.

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As I've "evolved" in this game I've ended up seeing about a dozen girls on a regular basis.  It's not that I don't see new ones, either.  I just like variety, but I will see each regular every couple of months.

So are you now gonna call him "Gregory?"

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But hey, a lot can happen in six years - I've seen it happen to hookers in 6 months.

When I came back to the states in 2006  I was dealing with the aftermath of a major injury.  And I was not accustomed to the scene here.....

as I got better physically I started seeing providers here.  With mixed results.  For one thing I had orthostatic hypotension due to the injury.  That causes profound drops in blood pressure with certain positional changes.    

I am a lot better now physically -  but there is also another ingredient.....

I discovered that I am in fact not a machine -   that I have to be into the type of provider I was seeing...   I was previously accustomed to young,  thin,  "exotic" types from Asia and Central / South America and Eastern Europe.    

Once  I  got back into seeing the types of providers I really like,  I also got back to being my old self...   lesson learned....  and much happier now....

There is one particular hooker with a tinfoil hat from those days who seems to be very obsessed with me, and who likes to stalk my posts.  Even after all these years lol -  I honestly don't care but I do have to wonder why the obsession....    

nah - I don't really -   it is not my problem -  and life's too short...

If the client grosses her out that much she should not bother wasting his time or having to deal.

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And when they reject you ( clearly one time with you is more than enough) well, you have your own little apocalypse. Try a Fleshlight, no rejection there.

BITCH oxoxoxoxo

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Find another sandbox you giant crybaby.

Being the Great Asian American hobbyist who can speak 3 languages,  I'd be happy to translate for them.  

Oh, I still keep in touch with few of the k-girls Marcus and I have seen in common.

It's another post on that thread. It just about made me fall out of my fucking chair.

And Gregory, that would be the nicest thing I could muster up for the ego maniac he is today. No wonder he changed his handle!

Ridgetucky, ROGM, Lungman, OSP... ChgoCPA/Dr Who Revived, escalade1964, balljointnut... and many, many others.

I once even put together a pretty EPIC post making fun of PerfectStorm. You know, the frequent poster with the "mad hobbyist street cred," that he gathered on the mean, mean streets of Compton... er, Honolulu. Lol.

"Tall, hairy, old white guy with soft penis, like broken baby arm holding Korean pear, come today. He talk and talk and talk about Pentagon and very rich sail boat. He run very fast he say, but most often he just run mouth. I stick my tasty mandu in there to make quiet and dream that I Psy video girl."

(Edited because the picture of the "pear" wasn't loading. Lol.)

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Psy rules.

you are entertaining I'll have to admit.    

Cheers

and gave him shitty service. She deserves that new review and perhaps she will take her hooking seriously.

It's funny to see and old washed up ho condoning poor service. Sounds all to familiar, doesn't it?    

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doesn't have a triple, herniated bowel obstruction from you being an Asian hating "racist".  

   

It was funny though lol

Or simply shut up.  

Her lack luster service possibly was her way of some sort of rejection. I don't condone that. I did say in this thread, that you chose to ignore, that she should have not bothered seeing him  if she found him objectionable.  

Trying to have a decent conversation with someone like you is like walking through waist deep mud, tiring, and just not worth it the effort.  

I have asked you countless times to prove your assertions of my age and lack of business but each and every time you fail to do so

It's kinda like used car shopping hb+t=. It ain't your "age"; it's the miles.

your alias isn't racist and derogatory?

maybe if you stopped drinking for once, you'll see the "light".

 
Don't make him sober; You wouldn't like him when he's sober

He even had the audacity to be the owner of a DRY CLEANING business! What on earth was he thinking? What a bigot. Lol.

The dastardly thing about stereotypes- there often is SOME truth to them! I literally sessioned with that one Korean guy three or four times a month, for YEARS. He would work a half day on Saturday and drive a few hours to ski resort most weekends during the winter. One unfortunate time, he was traveling behind a truck transporting Christmas trees. They weren't tethered properly and started falling into the road. Poor Dxxxxx. He drove his Jeep away from the soft tree branches and RIGHT into the re-inforced steal guard rail!

In addition to that driving-challenged, dry-cleaning business owning, Asian pear giving, Engrish speaking, Korean man, I can safely say that I have had sex with more Asians than you have! :-p Off the top of my head, I can think of sessions I had with guys from China, Japan, Vietnam, Thailand, Sir Lanka, Burma, Pakistan, and the Philippines. Not to mention,  many, many guys from India.

When I lived in a different state, I had so many Asian clients that I actually had TWO REGULARS NAMED KUNGA, one from Tibet and one from Nepal! Lol.

So just for the record, the only person I was intending to be "very racist and derogatory" towards, is a certain white, braggadocious, German-American, named MarkusKetterman