The debt ceiling needs to be raised and the government needs to be funded after 12/11. If those two things are not done, the economy will go into a tailspin. Right now we have the only strong economy in the world but it's being dragged down by weakness in China and Europe. If we shoot out own economy in the foot, it will tank. The only people who want that are the most extreme right wing Republicans. It will also hurt whoever is the Republican nominee for Prez.
.....Now we will have the tea party inmates running the asylum. Oh my, what could possibly go wrong!
...doesn't have a clue what the debt ceiling is. And he's the second most popular Republican!!
I'll explain it simply for the benefit of our righty morons here: Let's say you have a credit card limit of $5,000. Somehow you manage to run up charges of $7,000. So you call your credit card company and ask that they raise your credit limit (debt ceiling) to match the debt you already have. They raise your debt ceiling so you figure you can do it again and again until you're hopelessly in debt and can't get out of it. The answer is to balance your budget so that you don't have to ask for your debt ceiling to be raised. But small government righties don't seem to want to or be able to do that. They just keep charging everything to the old credit card then refuse to pay for the stuff they already charged....They want one of their own to be Speaker and they don't want to compromise with the Boehner Brigade. They won't go along with one of Boehner's Boys and neither will the Dems, who also get to vote for Speaker.
Hopefully, we'll get to see the Republicans do this:
as 40 extremists lead the other 395 around by their noses. I'd say balls, but none of them have any.
There is a large minority in this country that's angry at government and the way this country has changed around them. They don't really understand why and are easy to manipulate. But this is nothing new. Sinclair Lewis wrote about it back in the 1930s in "It Can't Happen Here." This quote is attributed to him but never appeared in the book. But it smacks of the truth.
"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross."
So some of GOP supporters on here got upset.
When I called these GOP party leaders and GOP representatives in Washington DC.
The GOP animal house and now I am proven right.
They cannot even led themselves and how are they going to lead this country?
This is embarrassing for these clowns. Lol
Looks like things are getting down and dirty! 
...two days ago calling for any candidate for Speaker who has committed "misdeeds" since joining Congress to withdraw from the race for Speaker.
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Most sane people who were looking for stimulating debate bailed out of this place months/years ago leaving it to the likes of you and your ilk.............good luck. Looks like its the same old shit box.
It was a Mr. A. Lincoln:
"A house divided against itself cannot stand."
...being divided against itself because of religious righties.
...the sinking ship now because they can read the handwriting on the wall - not one decent candidate in a field of 16. And the 3 front runners are not even politicians!
I agree - it's better for you to leave now rather than slink away ignominiously with your tails between your legs as the TER righties did when the election results were announced in 2008 & 2012. Don't let the TER door hit you in the ass on the way out!-- Modified on 10/8/2015 10:46:20 PM
They try and change the subject at any cost.
When you point out their stupidity as a political party or supporters.
I know let's blame the person who is calling us out on our bullshit.
The GOP animal house is living up their name and I love the fact.
It pisses you off and you can't take the heat.
So go cry somewhere else because you also have proven my point.
look who replied! Tweedledumb and Tweedledumber, the two resident morons who live here and can't even get laid when they pay for it. I guess my comment hit home.
Keep it up. The litter box is all yours, enjoy it.So again you ran away because you couldn't take the truth about your political party?
Then you want to come on here trying to sound so smart.When we all can see you are full of shit and acting like a bitch. This is a place where people debate and go at it.
We don't run away like you, but come up with counter answers to people's bullshit. Just remember cowards are not tough! Lol
Keep it up. The litter box is all yours, enjoy it.
Goldwater, btw, seems like a moderate compared to the know-nothings on the right today. In fact, the party was partly built upon the ashes of the American Party of the 1850s. Coincidently, they were also called the "Know Nothings" and were anti-Catholic as well as anti-immigrant
in person. That's why your life revolves around an anonymous "chat" board on a fuck board. Congrats fatgirl you win.
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When people try and use that line on here.
They sound so stupid.
Also I mention many times on here.
My reviews are on here and anybody can see them. Also my life is great on and off this site.
It's so much fun to see how clueless people like you really are on here. So now I see why you ran away.
You are totally clueless and yes bitter.LOL
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To be a Republican, or even just a conservative it appears you have to believe in "God and country" and all socially conservative bullshit and faux patriotism that goes along with it, but to be a Democrat it appears you have to embrace socialism and political correctness among other things I don't believe in.
I can no more be a Republican who hates religion than I can be a Democrat who hates socialism. Why do you think I vote for gridlock?If you count all the disaffected supporters of Trump, Carson, and Fiorina on the right and add them to the sizeable number of Sanders supporters, you might just find that "they" are not in the minority after all.
Bush was reelected in 2004 largely by scaring his "base" the Bible thumpers into believing that the very institute of marriage was under attack. Obama won largely in 2008 by promising stupid people "free stuff" History is full of stupid people being manipulated into voting for liars and cheats. One thing about our two party system that I take comfort from, the fascists are counterbalanced by the communists, so those of us in the middle can take comfort that it's unlikely either will ever achieve a plurality, much less a majority....how many posts they have. I wonder why that is? He has 65 posts in the last 30 days which would put him solidly in 4th place.
Many righties are still here - they're lurking because they have nothing to say since their party is so fucked up.although I doubt you want to claim him as one of your own, fatgirl has about as many as me, 130 as of just a few minutes ago. Laffy of course has only been back from "vacation" for a few days and will most certainly reclaim first place in a day or two.
Personally, I don't have a party, nor have I even decided which one of the people I don't like that I will eventually vote for. Right now it looks like a toss up between Trump and Hillary for me. If neither of them are there at the end I have to confess I have absolutely no idea who I could bring myself to vote for. Sanders against anyone would be an easy decision for me, more difficult would be Biden against someone like Rubio.Because you assume ANYTHING Congress does will just make things worse. So here's a serious question:what if Congress lets the gov't. shut down and doesn't increase the debt ceiling so the US defaults? How would this not tank the economy and cause a crash in commodity prices? Such as oil. Would you be happy then?
Government is a necessary evil. For example, regulation. Corporations certainly are not capable of regulating themselves, and that is a necessary function of Government. The Congress also has the task of "keeping our doors open" and raising the debt ceiling is certainly part of that. I would also 100% oppose Congress shutting down the government over something as relatively trivial as funding Planned Parenthood.
The Republican controlled Congress has failed to stand up to Obama when they should have, this would be a horrible time and place to finally make a stand.and wishing the government to default would be a huge step towards anarchy.
This country is full of communists on one side and fascists on the other with the rest of us caught in the middle. Personally I am thankful for our two party system which tends to cancel out the extremists on both sides. but that doesn't mean I want them "meddling" in areas where the private sector is better equipped. Areas like health care and job creation to name a couple. When the government "creates" jobs we end up with more and more government clones like WillyWonka creating a bigger and bigger drain on the system. What government SHOULD do is create an environment where private industry can thrive and regulate said private industry as to keep the playing field level. For some reason government either seeks to stifle free enterprise like a Bernie Sanders would do, or they favor Big Business like Obama and the most of the rest from both sides of the aisle as that is where their bread is buttered.
This country is full of communists on one side and fascists on the other with the rest of us caught in the middle. Personally I am thankful for our two party system which tends to cancel out the extremists on both sides. but that doesn't mean I want them "meddling" in areas where the private sector is better equipped. Areas like health care and job creation to name a couple. When the government "creates" jobs we end up with more and more government clones like WillyWonka creating a bigger and bigger drain on the system. What government SHOULD do is create an environment where private industry can thrive and regulate said private industry as to keep the playing field level.
For some reason government either seeks to stifle free enterprise like a Bernie Sanders would do, or they favor Big Business like Obama and the most of the rest from both sides of the aisle as that is where their bread is buttered.
I was infering that I was changing the subject. Sorry you didn't catch that despite my actually doing so. God you're dense.
Oh. And I don't have any "buddies" here on this fuckboard. Don't need them.being a moron. Couldn't figure out what my subject line meant.
but I'd wager he doesn't have the top number of posts on THIS board. That's what I was talking about. You truly are dense.
My original post was directed at this not all boards hence my lack of concern over total board stats. Must I explain all to you? Btw which of you pansies had the one branch clipped off? Yup you're all a bunch of pussies.
The NYT article is excerpts. I’d like to read the entire delivery but can’t find it.
In some respects Goldwater would have aligned more with the “No Nothings” than the Republicans. Goldwater was more a libertarian and than he was a conservative. The No Nothings refused to take a stance against slavery, much the same as Goldwater refused to take a stand against abortion. This viewpoint from Goldwater is not unusual at all as he was essentially the leading libertarian of the day (like the Pauls but with more stature yet still easy to label as crazy). Is the take away that people involved in politics that refuse to give an inch on certain moral issues are too divisive to be political partners? If it hadn’t been for ardent religious factions that were relentlessly against slavery would Lincoln and the Republicans had succeeded (granted, hard to call The Civil War a success at the time. Historically very much so). Religiousity in the country has always come in waves, sometimes referred to as awakenings. I sincerely do not believe the passionate and zealous religious types woke up one day a generation or so ago, got together, and decided to take over the government in order to force the Christian version of Sharia on everyone. No, it was the direct result of a major moral event that was thrust upon them. Of course that was Roe v. Wade in 1973. That and several other examples that can be construed as attacks of Christians. Granted it’s been going on long enough that the chicken or the egg argument comes into play. What’s most important most recently is the secular, anti religious has learned that certain accusations, founded or not, get amplified in the media (main stream and social). The far left has learned how to use these mere accusations as political weapons. After awhile the religious are to some degree only fighting back. I’m about as un-religious as Goldwater yet just as conservative but I’m far more compassionate to and understanding of the “Religious Right” than Goldwater. It’s probably because I’m Pro-Life, unlike GoldwaterTransaction declined
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