just show up on time, dont haggle rates or services, be clean. those are the basics, for me at least.
This is pretty foreign to me , as a buseness person I hate negotiating and after learning a customers needs, always start with the win/win . I hate even negotiating in Straw Markets of cruises.
if you aren't sure that you will be on time - be upfront with the lady from the start. some of them are ok with it, some aren't.
I agree. Time is the most valuable asset in the Universe. When you waster yours, you waste some for everyone. dont haggle rates or services - there are so many ladies that you can find one that fits what you are looking for. thats where patience may come in, but.. i didn't find my favorite hotel in ocean city on my first try either.
Interesting you suggest men become "Educated Consumers"
be clean - this should be so self explanatory, but its really not. just freshen up when you show up if you didn't before you left. and if youre showing up at 7pm and you freshened up that morning, thats not before you left. lol.
those three simple steps can help lady become a GREAT lady!
as for a good lady? i always say.. we aren't here to do what you want us to do, we are here to preform as we advertise that we do. so long as we do that, bingo. some guys want different things then others.. so theres really no other way to put this. buy some ter vip, read through some reviews, find a good match and she better follow through on her end of the bargain so long as you followed through on your end.
I have never thought much of "Truth in advertising " from the Ladies, mostly expecting an "oversell under deliver"
now go hunt!!! lol lol
xo
I had been out of the hobby for a while because of the declining prospects of my employer. But very recently having gotten an opening at a new employer, I have starting seriously perusing the ad sites. And I have to say that the picking are very slim. At this point in my hobby career I know that a hobbyist has to pick through a lot of ads to find a girl he might seriously consider but it's gotten sad.
I went through my favorites and deleted girls whose ratings have fallen or nothing's been posted recently. After this pruning I found that I had more favorites from other locations (NYC and Tidewater area of VA) than I had from here. Anyone got any up and comers?
because your reviews are flooded with 4s and 5s.. so it seems that its just commonplace for your hobbying adventures....
Yeah, gotta be honest, it is. Got spoiled by good experiences in the early to mid aughts going the BP route. But the bottom has really dropped out in quality since 2010.
also the few agencies around seem to have the same type of models.i.e similar physical traits.
With the internet being so easily available you will find more.
More good, more bad. That's why ladies screening has gone up. That's why you have more complaints.
Young women would be silly to not know that if they have the looks and body they could move to Miami, Las Vegas, Dubai.. whatever.. And find three sugar daddies that would spoil them rotton that then wouldn't have to work for more than 5 years..
Many ladies in my age bracket (30s) have families or at least reasons to keep them grounded. We have realized that there aren't many other jobs out there to make this kind of money with having this kind of control. The grass isn't always that green, but it works for us. Many people who start jobs at young ages just get better at their jobs and stay with them.
We deal with the same thing. Men being jerks. Men being pigs. Both sides just have to weed out the bad to find the good.
xx
( in the last year) seeing the same lady more frequently than trying someone new.
It takes time to develop trust enough to have fun. at least for me.
It's a trade-off with the danger of becoming bored with the same person but...
Interesting and well thought out.
How do you describe the "Good men" you meet and how would some of the Gentlemen describe a "Good Lady"?
More good, more bad. That's why ladies screening has gone up. That's why you have more complaints.
Young women would be silly to not know that if they have the looks and body they could move to Miami, Las Vegas, Dubai.. whatever.. And find three sugar daddies that would spoil them rotton that then wouldn't have to work for more than 5 years..
Many ladies in my age bracket (30s) have families or at least reasons to keep them grounded. We have realized that there aren't many other jobs out there to make this kind of money with having this kind of control. The grass isn't always that green, but it works for us. Many people who start jobs at young ages just get better at their jobs and stay with them.
We deal with the same thing. Men being jerks. Men being pigs. Both sides just have to weed out the bad to find the good.
xx
a good guy is what is said on repeat..
just show up on time, dont haggle rates or services, be clean. those are the basics, for me at least.
if you aren't sure that you will be on time - be upfront with the lady from the start. some of them are ok with it, some aren't.
dont haggle rates or services - there are so many ladies that you can find one that fits what you are looking for. thats where patience may come in, but.. i didn't find my favorite hotel in ocean city on my first try either.
be clean - this should be so self explanatory, but its really not. just freshen up when you show up if you didn't before you left. and if youre showing up at 7pm and you freshened up that morning, thats not before you left. lol.
those three simple steps can help lady become a GREAT lady!
as for a good lady? i always say.. we aren't here to do what you want us to do, we are here to preform as we advertise that we do. so long as we do that, bingo. some guys want different things then others.. so theres really no other way to put this. buy some ter vip, read through some reviews, find a good match and she better follow through on her end of the bargain so long as you followed through on your end.
now go hunt!!! lol lol
xo
just show up on time, dont haggle rates or services, be clean. those are the basics, for me at least.
This is pretty foreign to me , as a buseness person I hate negotiating and after learning a customers needs, always start with the win/win . I hate even negotiating in Straw Markets of cruises.
if you aren't sure that you will be on time - be upfront with the lady from the start. some of them are ok with it, some aren't.
I agree. Time is the most valuable asset in the Universe. When you waster yours, you waste some for everyone.
dont haggle rates or services - there are so many ladies that you can find one that fits what you are looking for. thats where patience may come in, but.. i didn't find my favorite hotel in ocean city on my first try either.
Interesting you suggest men become "Educated Consumers"
be clean - this should be so self explanatory, but its really not. just freshen up when you show up if you didn't before you left. and if youre showing up at 7pm and you freshened up that morning, thats not before you left. lol.
those three simple steps can help lady become a GREAT lady!
as for a good lady? i always say.. we aren't here to do what you want us to do, we are here to preform as we advertise that we do. so long as we do that, bingo. some guys want different things then others.. so theres really no other way to put this. buy some ter vip, read through some reviews, find a good match and she better follow through on her end of the bargain so long as you followed through on your end.
I have never thought much of "Truth in advertising " from the Ladies, mostly expecting an "oversell under deliver"
now go hunt!!! lol lol
xo
I think your looking in the wrong places. Maybe you should start by looking on,p411
or Ter.Dc. Your not going to find anything outstanding under 300 or on BP. If your looking for quality it's
out there.You just have to be willing to step up to the plate and spend some real $$$$++.Remember cheap
and good don't usually go hand in hand.
Sabrina Secks has become one of my favorites in the area when I am traveling through. She is absolutely incredible and open to experimentation.
Way too many pages to find real ads. The quality is deplorable compared to a few years ago with that escort mall.
After 2010 the quality of girls on the more popular pages went down. As far as escorts who regularly work this area, there aren't that many. Compared to NYC, where there's everything from BP girls, to brothels, to pros, I must have over twenty girls on my favorites list. Quiet as it's kept, the Tidewater area of VA has a wide selection of reputable providers. The best approach might be to develop a rotation here and then go to NYC or VA for variety.
I use to travel up to York/Harrisburg/Philly on my rotation back in 2003-2005.
even in 2008 - 2010 you were handing out a 4, 5 and 6's.
i think there are plenty of lovely ladies in maryland. it all depends on what you are looking for.
i also think there are plenty of lovely ladies across the world.
if you have to travel to find the ones you like, fair enough.
i had to leave las vegas to find beaches that i liked.
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I don't understand what his ratings have to do with what he is asking about.
i think there are plenty of lovely ladies in maryland. it all depends on what you are looking for.
i also think there are plenty of lovely ladies across the world.
if you have to travel to find the ones you like, fair enough.
i had to leave las vegas to find beaches that i liked.
and claiming that he had better experiences prior to 2010?
i would understand if he had stellar dates (reviews and scores reflect otherwise) prior to those years, but his complaint (comment, whatever) just isn't falling in line since he has had bad dates prior to...
seeing as his dates pre 2010 and post 2010 are all mixed reviews i just dont see how he is coming to his conclusion. unless he just doesn't review all of his dates, i get that, but still.. the dates prior to 2010 aren't all 8, 9 and 10 and post 4, 5 and 6.
at least thats what I'm taking from this...
xx
This gives the impression that he's either not doing his research or that he's not sure what it is that he wants. Maybe he's booking last minute and going with anyone who will take him, idk? Ladies like to be prepared; when we are in our zone, we can better please you. Who sees someone who's got luggage on the bed and answering their phone in the middle of giving a blow job? His ratings reflect the kind of choices he makes, some good, some not so good.
xoxo
Caylee
I worked eight to twelve hr. 4P-Mid shifts during the week, so I had to book weekends, which a lot of ladies don't work. Most of the poorly rated reviews were from the women I could find working a weekend afternoon or evening. With my new job, I will be working morning-afternoon shift, so my schedule will be more in line with the hours preferred by working girls. It also helps that I will have a significant increase in pay and OT if I want it.
...you take some of that new money and invest in VIP and do some research? Also, plan your dates ahead of time, pre-book. It's always going to be slim pickings when you wait until the last minute. If your schedule doesn't allow for pre-booking, check out the "available now" feature on P411 and cross check those ladies with TER to see what other reviewers have said...some of the ladies you saw were reviewed with low numbers well before you went to see them. Don't TOFTT! See some touring ladies, they normally have extended hours. See someone that offers GFE so you'll have more of an experience and less of a transaction. Don't settle for what you can get...do your homework and go for what you want! Be patient; when the mood strikes and who and what you want isn't available, take matters into your own hands, and save your money for when the time IS right. Get a few new, positive reviews under your belt, and maybe some whitelist referrals. Don't gamble, strategize! Lol! Good luck to you!
xoxo
Caylee
I could be convinced to come.
If you choose to, the place to be seems to be BWI or Columbia, maybe north Baltimore County. But allow me to extolling the virtues of the city. During working hours, the city is packed with professionals with disposable income. And whereas workers in the county would have to drive some distance to see you and then have to drive home, in the city, most of your callers could hail a cab or Uber. There are plenty of hotels in the Inner Harbor, Inner Harbor East, or Midtown.
The (nearly unanimous) advice that I was given was that hosting near BWI was all around the best idea.
But you're suggesting something different.
And for reasons that make a lot sense.
However, the demographics of the burbs seem to indicate that the advice I received earlier was sound.
Now I'm really confused.
He's making the case that benefits him. And I wish it were a case that I could get behind because I much prefer downtown Baltimore to BWI and the burbs, but I hear crickets when I have incall there.
So you need to just try it out and see where works for you. If you're the exploring type, then downtown, Inner Harbor, Fells Point is ideal. So much to do, see, eat, drink, etc. But I have not found a base of clients there, but maybe you can!
xo,
Norah
Great call, thanks for mentioning. I had the pleasure of visiting one of Baltimore's best who used to host there.
That was where I had my date with Marie/Sweetness back in 2008. There have been a lot of first rate hotel built in Inner Harbor East since then.
Remember Lauren Haze? I spent many a day there with her and each one was better than the last. What a sweetheart.
Have to say that this may be the case. In a thread I started about this subject (touring in the city) no less than Cayden Vaughn said that she did more business in the county than she did in the city. But the right kind of provider, someone edgier and younger may be able to crack the city. Give the city a try for two or three days to see what happens.
Because inner cities only like "younger and edgier" ladies..
That must be it!
The city is great for out calls. It's not great for in calls. You may get a lunch and work time date. People don't want to drive to the city and pay for parking. Any city can work, it depends on what time and rate. Perhaps the OP meant to say that if you change your rate to 200 and visit the city at a time he is free that he will book you for an hour, lol.
Have a good night.
xx
Ladies seem to make a go of it in NYC, Philly, D.C., Houston, Dallas, LV, etc, etc.
I haven't spent time in all of them but I have a few. From what I know, at least NY, LV, and DC are cities people will go into for a night of entertainment. They're destinations - Baltimore does not seem to fall into that category.
I spend more time in DC but Baltimore from what I have seen is more like if people are in town for a convention at the Inner Harbor then that's one thing and supports the out call point. But at least for me that's more a tourist area.
Otherwise Baltimore seems more like a place people come to work and then go home to the burbs. I find it's a hassle to get around/park in Baltimore, and entertainment-wise it feels more like a tourist area at the IH and not much more. Plus, the ladies are telling you that it is what it is and it's not working for them. Plus, Baltimore's not the safest downtown I know of - NY, DC and LV (the strip - not downtown!) are much more comfortable to walk around at night in my opinion at least.
I like Baltimore. It would be nice if Baltimore could be more conducive to the hobby, but if I was a provider I would think more outcall than incall too, and they know a hell of a lot more about it then me.
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I think the thing to remember is that if you want incall in Baltimore within an easy taxi or uber ride, there is the Block. It's pretty safe, the police obviously know about it and if they raided it weekly it wouldn't exist. So that's a safe place for the lunchtime crowd to go. That's going to cut into any sort of downtown business.
you really dont know, i would just back what joe christmas says.
some of the cities you listed are known for the worst cities in america for ladies.
you listed many of the over saturated escort destinations and life isn't just what you think it is for us.
i am not saying life is bad, life is great...
but just because a city has a major airport doesn't mean an escort can fly there and succeed.
sorry, but for now downtown baltimore just isn't the best place to station yourself. unless a gent wants to prebook a dinner date.. then hey, you can take the lead.
xx
There are plenty of new residents moving in and housing prices and rents are increasing year over year. There are three multi billion dollar projects that are rolling out (State Center, Port Covington, and Canton Crossing). I will admit that the Central Business District has been allowed to decline, but it is still a place of major employment. Then there is sports tourism, where tens of thousands come and go from March to January. If holders and managers of capital large and small will make investments in Baltimore, I think there are opportunities for an enterprising escort or agency to make a go of it here.
The challenge is to getting established in a neighborhood that is deemed safe. This requires paying a premium in a lease or mortgage. Another challenge would be discretion, because safe neighborhoods have very involved community organizations which track everything from illegal activity to housing code violators. I have felt that the best place for an escort or agency in call would be midtown, Mt. Vernon or Seton Hill, or farther north, Station North, Old Goucher, Charles Village, or along University Pkwy. The main advantage being that anyone working, staying in town, or residing in central Baltimore could take a taxi or black car service to and from these incalls for about the price to park a car in a downtown garage. As for discretion, these areas have sufficient foot traffic from the businesses during the day and bars and restaurants during the night that guests would go unnoticed.
The problem with the touring provider model is that the fixed costs, those that don't react to the level of business activity, vary from hotel, from the day of the week, or the mode of transportation. There is no way to amortized capital costs to leverage against variable costs, costs which change with the level of activity. Working from an apartment or leased property might ameliorate some of this problem but then leases and rents increase, landlords may decide not to allow you to renew, or the property could be sold to new owners
you should start an agency and report back in two years then.
until then, take an uber to bwi!
have fun!
I feel that their are several ladies in the hobby that are expecting way too much these days; however, there are also some very lovely local ladies and a couple of agencies that seem great with every reasonable expectations.
Before bashing everything next time, maybe you should ask for some recommendations.
Local ladies. I don't think that providers in general have good marketing skills. They keep their rates the same as whether you're local or non=local. How about, "if I see you in the next 45 days, you'll get a reduced consideration ?" I know things are tough, but, sometimes the thought of a discount will bring volume and keep men loyal. Just sayin' and no disrespect at all. Take a fresh look
Before bashing everything next time, maybe you should ask for some recommendations.
If we're so awesome, reliable, entertaining and fun that you'd like to see us every 45 days, how about paying us more?
Lol.. I get what you're saying, but... You probably don't get what I'm saying! Lol!
xo