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Re: 1. This is the Sports Board, not the P&R board. . .
JLWest 783 reads
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2. If you notice, which you don't obliviously, we don't call one another names except in jest and very rarely.

3. It really doesn't matter what team you are a fan of. If you're a Jets fan great (not really) or a Yankee fan (yuck) or Nicks (Just keeps getting worse) no one really cares. Post your opinion.

4. Don't, I repeat "DON'T tell us you are the best, smartest sports fan alive." Here is the deal. We are all just fan, some really knowledgeable and some not so much (that would be me). But regardless, we are each as much of a fan as we want to be. Each one a football, basketball, hockey, basketball fan of a team for one reason or another. In my case and many others I was born and raised 15 miles north of Arrowhead stadium. I suspect Sara is from Texas and others were born and raised near their team. We cheer when they win and cry when they lose.

5. When your team loses and the board cheers, you have to take it in good nature. It's their right if you are going to cheer when they win. Doesn't happen a lot in my case, I mean cheering when my team wins. Oh well, "Next year look out".

6. Most of us post our opinions or ideas and we are not wrong, stupid or dumb. If a disagreement degenerates to name calling it not a debate of ideas. It's schoolboy play yard name calling. Which as I said, You don't really see that here.

7. I don't know how many time I have posted mistakes,  errors or bad predictions. I think at least once. No one jumps down my throat.  They laugh, post something humorous, or correct the post. But there is no name calling.

8. When you post you should think you are talking to a friend. Disagreement is fine, different opinion is fine. But do you call your friends names?

9. Learn to laugh at yourself before you laugh and ridicule others.

10.  You don't have to be the most prolific poster (I do) to be respected or provide interest.


New York Giants v. New England Patriots: Well we have come to the end of another fantastic football season of the NFL. While the two participants in this game may not have been dominant at all times throughout the year, they certainly come into this game red hot. The Patriots haven't lost in months and the Giants are riding an impressive 5 game win streak that saw them go from mere playoff hopefuls to being on the verge of winning their second title in 4 years. First, from the Patriots perspective. This one is obvious. Protect Tom Brady. The Giants pushed/battered him four years ago in the Super Bowl and made an explosive Patriot offense look ordinary. If Brady has time, he will find Welker, Hernandez, Branch and Gronk (who prob. won't be at 100%) and allow them to make plays after the catch. The Patriots are one of the better teams in producing yards after the catch (YAC for those who love football acronyms). Welker and Gronk will be tough match-ups for the Giants all day. There will be plays to made for Brady, but how well they can block the Giants defensive front will determine the Patriots ability to move the ball. The Patriot running game is not great, but they know how to mix it in well enough to keep teams guessing. Defensively, is where New England will have some trouble. Besides Big Vince, they really don't have another true defensive stalwart who I can say right now could have a big impact on the game. During the 2001-2004 run, they had the likes of Law, Bruschi, Vrabel, Seymour, Harrison...all capable of changing the game at any time. The 2011 Patriots don't have that type of leadership. They have good players (Mayo, Chung, etc.) but in my mind not game changers. I think the Patriots will give up yardage, but if they can defend the redzone and limit the Giants to FG attempts, they can put the game in Brady's hands to win it late. Second, from the Giants perspective. Offensively, I expect the Giants to move the ball quite effectively. We all ridiculed Eli for putting himself (during a radio interview) in Tom Brady's class at the beginning of the season, but it doesn't seem too far fetched now. He has played tremendously throughout the year and at times carried the Giants when the rest of the team was floundering. Obviously, they have tremendous weapons on the outside. Victor Cruz has emerged from obscurity to become a Pro Bowl player. Hakeem Nicks is a great complement on the other side. But really, Eli spreads the ball out nicely and will find the open receivers. The running game is solid and although not as dominant as in years past, it is effective. Bradshaw and Jacobs feed off of each other nicely. The offensive line has been shoddy at times, and they too will have to protect Eli, especially from Big Vince who has been dominant this post season. Defensively, though, is where it will be won or lost for the Giants. I expect the Giant offense to score points, so how their defense limits Brady and his opportunities will dictate the outcome. Their defensive line got healthy at the right time. Tuck was a virtual no show this entire season and now he and Osi are back and healthy and have returned to Pro Bowl form. And of cours JPP has been awesome and has all the tools of becoming an elite force (if he's not there already) in the league. If they can make Brady uncomfortable in the pocket (not easy to do) they can severely limit the Patriots offense. If Brady has time, he will rack up big yards against very average LB/DB units.

Outcome: The Patriots are favorite in this game solely due to the Belichick/Brady phenomena that has swept the football nation this past decade. They have been the gold standard in this league and deserve all the accolades. But that's what makes predicting this game tough, because the Giants have the better more balanced team. This season, Eli is every bit Tom Brady's equal. The Giant pass rush has been ferocious, and while I don't expect a repeat of their dominant 2007 Super Bowl effort, they will get to Brady. The key will be whether they can get to him at crucial times. At the end of the day expect another close Super Bowl between these two teams, just with a little more scoring. On a hunch, I just can't see Belichick/Brady loosing two Super Bowls to the same team. New England 27, Giants 24.

Patriots 31-14 over giants. Giants are yapping like jets, I hope they get embarassed, to all giants fans you have no shot, I am so sick of Giants. All big mouths, all punks, JP, OSI, ROLLE, stick a knife in your throat and choke, brady will embarass you guys. long live paul revere, forget colony, new england will suceed.  2 TE, welker and branch, and RB, good luck covering them. Defense wil lbe fine, its last because every game they are up by 3 TD, so they give up yardage on purpose to kill clock. Watch out with chad, who knows he might be surprise of big day, eli has been stellar this year,but last yr is only 1 yr removed. true this yr he has had a great yr. Until this yr his  career has been average. 1 great yr in 9 doesnt make you a superstar, my $$$$$$$$$$$$ is on brady, time to hit atlantis with spread, to easy, to all ny suckers GIANTS WILL CHOKE, CHOKE ON THIS RIB, GIANTS SUCK, TO COACH I AM TIRED OF YOU 2012= 4 WHO CARES.

JLWest784 reads

2. If you notice, which you don't obliviously, we don't call one another names except in jest and very rarely.

3. It really doesn't matter what team you are a fan of. If you're a Jets fan great (not really) or a Yankee fan (yuck) or Nicks (Just keeps getting worse) no one really cares. Post your opinion.

4. Don't, I repeat "DON'T tell us you are the best, smartest sports fan alive." Here is the deal. We are all just fan, some really knowledgeable and some not so much (that would be me). But regardless, we are each as much of a fan as we want to be. Each one a football, basketball, hockey, basketball fan of a team for one reason or another. In my case and many others I was born and raised 15 miles north of Arrowhead stadium. I suspect Sara is from Texas and others were born and raised near their team. We cheer when they win and cry when they lose.

5. When your team loses and the board cheers, you have to take it in good nature. It's their right if you are going to cheer when they win. Doesn't happen a lot in my case, I mean cheering when my team wins. Oh well, "Next year look out".

6. Most of us post our opinions or ideas and we are not wrong, stupid or dumb. If a disagreement degenerates to name calling it not a debate of ideas. It's schoolboy play yard name calling. Which as I said, You don't really see that here.

7. I don't know how many time I have posted mistakes,  errors or bad predictions. I think at least once. No one jumps down my throat.  They laugh, post something humorous, or correct the post. But there is no name calling.

8. When you post you should think you are talking to a friend. Disagreement is fine, different opinion is fine. But do you call your friends names?

9. Learn to laugh at yourself before you laugh and ridicule others.

10.  You don't have to be the most prolific poster (I do) to be respected or provide interest.

.................................this is just too much/gone too far by any standard!!

"All big mouths, all punks, JP, OSI, ROLLE, stick a knife in your throat and choke"

Wasn't it your rediculously stupid ass that was commenting not so long ago about how violence at sporting events/other places should not be condoned?!?
Then you post this shit?!?
Prior to this, I was just feeling sorry/pitying your foolishness, shildish inability to form functional thoughts/sentences; but no more.

I have '0' love and complete disdain for any/all that is NY sports/their fan-base, but when the match/game/event is over, we all just return to being people with families to go home to.
It's those who 'pretend' to love sports and all associated who create/foster the prior/during/post game hatred that stains these events.
You (and people like you) cannot handle the loss/criticism that come with all sports.
The fact your insanity has run into an unhealthy association with my home teams just compounds my dislike of you/your 'opinions!
Your vile post/request should be yanked and you should be moderated MINIMUM!!!
If it were up to me, you'd be gone!

JLWest742 reads

Sent in my bet. I took the Patriots.  Hardy you better have this right damnit. lol

GaGambler839 reads

considering the spread is three and he predicted a three point victory by the favorite, it would be impossible for him to be wrong against the spread. Of course, it's also impossible for him to be right either. lol

If you know someone who will give you even odds on a straight up bet, please send him to me. Current money line on NE is -140, I would love to get it at even money and then bet the Giants at +120 and middle the bet. lol

JLWest733 reads

The other side of this bet is a New York guy who is an Arizona snowbird. Big Giants fan, well a big Jets fan and somewhat Giants fan who really dislikes the Pats. I and a few others have just about soaked up his bet fund.

Even if I lose, the grief I'm able to dishing out to him is worth the money. And if I win, oh boy, he may change his winter home to Nome Alaska.

GaGambler841 reads

Posting a prediction that the final will hit the spread exactly is no prediction at all.

Hardy, are you giving or taking the points???

How you play the game is unimportant, it's whether or not you cover the spread. lol

I'll put myself out there first, I happen to agree with virtually everything that Hardy said, especiall the part about Belichick/Brady losing two SB's in a row and twice in the same year to the same team. For that reason, and that reason alone I am putting my money on the Pats, but I am hardly betting the farm on it, nor am I betting with a great deal of confidence, but not betting the Super Bowl just seems UnAmerican to me. lol

cashorcredit750 reads

And i will not be betting on the fucking game.

"Rant" Thanks to the god damn Saints and 49ers I won't be gambling again Until September!

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