Recently concluded a business trip to Munich, and having read so much about the FKK Sauna scene in Germany I had to check it out. Wow.
First night (Tues 4/27) made the 50 minute drive to the FKK Colosseum in Augsburg, located in a business-park / light industry type area. Parked, got buzzed in, and got the run-down (in English) from the man behind the desk - very helpful. €65 entry fee gets you towel, bath sandals, and a locker. Use of all facilities and drinks included. I showered and headed out in the to pool area. There were probably 25 ladies working that evening, mostly lounging near the pool which dominates the center of the main area. A bar serves non-alcoholic beverages. I got a drink ('vasser mit gaz bitte') and took a seat to evaluate the talent. Overall I thought quite good - lots of 7s to 9s, and didn't see any fuglies at all. After a time, I went to talk to Pia - roughly 5'5, slender German girl, B cup I'd guess, light brown hair, lovely body and skin, early 20s I think. ('Bitte, sprechen Sie English?' says I 'Yes of course...'). Guys, over the course of visiting these two different clubs and talking to roughly a dozen women I had absolutely no problem communicating in English with any of them. Eva and I had a chat, then went up the spiral staircase to a floor where there are perhaps 15 small rooms. The basic rate is €50 for 30 minutes (this was same at both clubs) and was good for FS + oral (BBBJ in all cases). There are any number of specials which seem to run an extra €50, for example CIM or anal if you desire. Had a very fun and hot half hour session with this girl; then into the locker room to pay for the session. Wanting to take in the scene a bit more, I got another drink and settled into a seat. Before long Junior started twitchy again, so I went over to have a chat with Eva - 5'8, solid D+ (enhanced) from Bulgaria. Wound up having another very hot session with this lady. Started out in the spa - her sitting stride my leg, giving DFK, and stroking Mr Johnson. Then up to a room to seal the deal - once again, BBBJ followed by multiple position FS. I showered, left, and hit the road back to Munich. Overall the damage was about €200 including entry, play time with both ladies, and a tip for both.
Well, that was such a great time I felt obliged to check out FKK Hawaii in Ingolstadt. Same exact fee structure. I was told 23 girls onsite. Different interior, this is a bit newer, very nice, softer lighting which I preferred compared to Colosseum. They have a movie room that runs nonstop porno, you can do the needful in there if you like. They also serve hot food, so you can eat if you like - it looked pretty good. Once again, got a drink, sat for awhile, and then struck up a conversation with Andreea - Italian / Romanian mix that strongly reminded me of Nikita Denise. Session details are similar to above, but have to give a call-out for this girl's incredible oral talents. Yowza. Again, showered up, got another drink, and lounged around a bit more. Ultimately decided I was done for the evening and was out the door for about €140 - a little steeper than night before but could have done another round for just €50 - about the price of a nude MBOT lapper at current exchange rate. Another great club, though I felt the talent level was not quite on par Colosseum.
Definitely a very interesting scene, has a strip-club feel in a way what with all the naked women wandering around (most in heels and nothing else). Both are well worth a visit if the situation presents itself. Have another business trip in June to Frankfurt, I've heard the FKK's there are the best of the bunch.
It's a good thing I don't live in Germany....
Just my 2 cents,
Thanks a lot for sharing the valuable information. I am headed to Munich next week. I really appreciate it.
FYI the guy who started Colosseum used to run Babylon in Elsdorf. I've heard the X Theke frau (women who runs the desk) named Rosie is now at Colosseum, she is a hot looking Turkish woman. When Babylon started to fail years back he jumped ship and took the concept down to the Munich area. It was a success since his prices and service were pretty much unheard of down in that area. So the men flocked there and so did some of the women. I banged my first US women there who met the owner while she was on vacation an island near Spain. Imagine that, you run into a gal on vacation who is low on cash and invite her to come to Germany to work at your club? She did and I must say she was pretty dam good. She did not speak much (or any) German but did well. I had heard many of the X Atlantis gals had gone there to work. I met a few during my visit. We have to remember that with so many clubs opening up around Frankfurt and the North Rhein area competition is causing problems.
Great report, pretty much what I would report when I visited. If you go a bit north towards Stuttgart some good clubs are popping up as well.
Eddie spot on with the report, actually was stuck in Munich due to vlocano so took advantage of my time and went to both places. I agree the ambiance is better at Hawaaii club and they server alcohol. The wowen at the Collessum are little better. All in all both are worth the trip and will be returining to Germany again to the Frankfurt scene soon.
Question: I will be visiting germany soon and I will be experiencing Fkk clubs for the first time. And although I would like to visit the best clubs germany has to offer my main concern is avoiding STD's as I don't want 2 come home with any diseases. Therefore, the club that takes the best safety measures with respect to Std's is the club that will be on top of my list to visit. So which club-in your experience-ensures that their girls are "clean" and mandates that they get regular testing for all STD's-not just HIV? Also please inform me of the clubs that you are aware of that patrons have caught diseases . For obvious reasons, I will avoid them at all costs. When I visit I want to feel comfortable and not worry about getting any diseases whether it be herpes or HIV. I'm from New York and I saw many photos of woman from the most popular Fkk's and their absolutely gorgeous. Also as a precaution I will also use protection but do you recommend kissing or oral sex with woman or is it too risky?. Your input regarding this matter is greatly appreciated. Thanks,
If you have concerns about BBBJ, use a condom. Use one for FS regardless, obviously (believe it or not I understand there is at least one club known for bareback FS - nein danke!)
If you feel unsafe kissing, then dont.
I think, but dont know that many clubs encourage women to get periodic health checks, but even if they do, it is no guarantee.
Bottom line, covered activities are pretty darn safe. If you don't want to take even the smallest risk, you can still go get some beautiful woman to strip for you, give you a few great laps, and give you the best BBHJ of your life
Just my cents,
Question for Derkdiggler : I will be visiting germany soon and I will be experiencing Fkk clubs for the first time. And although I would like to visit the best clubs germany has to offer my main concern is avoiding STD's as I don't want 2 come home with any diseases. Therefore, the club that takes the best safety measures with respect to Std's is the club that will be on top of my list to visit. So which club-in your experience-ensures that their girls are "clean" and mandates that they get regular testing for all STD's-not just HIV? Also please inform me of the clubs that you are aware of that patrons have caught diseases . For obvious reasons, I will avoid them at all costs. When I visit I want to feel comfortable and not worry about getting any diseases whether it be herpes or HIV. I'm from New York and I saw many photos of woman from the most popular Fkk's and their absolutely gorgeous. Also as a precaution I will also use protection but do you recommend kissing or oral sex with woman or is it too risky?. Your input regarding this matter is greatly appreciated. Thanks,
Unfortunately every hobby comes with its own risks. What I mean is if you plan on kissing, bbbj or even touching women there is always a chance of coming down with something. Understanding that the best you can do is lower the risk but not totally remove is a start.
There is no better club or club that has less risk. The problem lies in the laws that were changed several years ago in Germany. By law clubs are not allowed to ask for medical documents from the women. Years ago the clubs did request health papers and doctors checks but that was changed and now the clubs lost that right. It's about privacy according to the law. So knowing that then you should understand the clubs no longer have control over the health of the women. They can request women see doctors and if a client contracts something and tells the club they can ask the woman to stop working. After all what club wants the rep as a place where someone got an STD. I'm almost certain every club has had a woman who had an STD. Further it is impossible to stop STD's since every customer who enters with one can possibly spread it to a woman who in turn will spread it to another client. The only way to stop that would be to have the girls checked after each client and that is not going to happen.
OK so what do they do that could cause risk? Kissing, most do it, BBBJ (bare back blow job), BBBJ with cum in mouth (CIM). There are even women at some clubs (club staff might not even be aware) that offer condom less intercourse. Remember extra's mean more profit and many girls offer anal, CIM, swallowing and bbbj. These are all things that increase the risk of contracting something.
What scares me is the increase in Eastern Block women from poor countries such as Romania and Bulgaria. Poorer women tend to take more risk from my experience but this can also happen with women from other countries. Again this is my opinion and not fact, there is no full proof concept, if you can't track where a woman has been and with whom then its all a mystery.
What you can do is wear a condom for sex and oral sex. No kissing. But then the whole reason many men go to Germany is for the kissing and bbbj.
There are some things you can do that might lesson the chances of contracting something but nothing is a sure thing. Use plenty of mouth wash, even swallow some after a session to kill germs that got down your throat. Wash your dick well perhaps with antibacterial soap or bring peroxide. Drinks lots of fluids and make sure you pee right after your session. This will flush out anything that may have gotten in after bbbj. Try taking garlic tablets and cranberry extract capsules daily to drive off urinary tract infections. If you go down on a gal, let your nose and mouth do a smell and taste test. Look at where you put your face, don't allow women to dim the lights down. All too often women will take you into a bright room and dim the lights almost dark. Insist they leave the lights on and don't fall for the "but its more romantic" line. Look for warts, scars, wounds, a drip or anything obvious. I knew a guy who took a pen light into the room to check first.
I once had a gynecologist along on a trip with me. Gave me a good chance to ask a doctor questions about the women. He would tell me how he took a peak while with girls and found warts and infections most guys would miss. As a doctor he still took the chance to kiss, bbbj and go down on women. Another doctor once told me when asked about how safe BBBJ was, he answered it is safer to put your dick in a dogs mouth then a human mouth. What ever that means, the point was there are risks but these men who understood the risks still took the risk.
Get checked after your trip, wash well, pee often and take supplements.
I don't want to state where I've heard women have had STD's since it would be unfair to the club and not the responsibility of the club. (by law only if they are told a girl has something can they do something).
Stephan (Villa Vertigo)as an owner might be able to shed more light on this as a club owner.
I will say this in over 20 years, urinary infection has affected me about twice. I have heard of several cases of STD. I even heard of one gal with HIV but never could confirm that since no one has medical record access. If you read up on it, getting HIV is easier from man to women and much harder from women to men, even without a condom (bbbj).
I'm not telling you to do something you might regret, this is a hobby that comes with risks. Any time you partake in this hobby you are taking a chance. You could reduce your odds by not doing kissing or bbbj. I've been lucky, but I never win the lottery when I play either. Who knows what you will encounter. I have also heard of a few cases of herpes as well, which you can get just from contact.
I've rambled enough and don't want to bore readers. To answer your question, there is no clubs with less chances or more chances. Clubs don't have the ability to check the women.
My final thoughts are, this is why I personally avoid the clubs with the most tourist traffic. More locals who are regular guests means problems become more obvious sooner. If a regular guest becomes infected, they usually tell the club. Tourist's usually don't find out something is wrong till they are home, thousands of miles away.
Plus this means the germ pool is not as large. Imagine if you have a convention with thousands of men from all over the world. They go to the local big club and shoot a load. Who knows where that man has been, then that gal has the ability to spread that to others. The less foreign traffic the worse the odds.
This goes for the women as well, local gals who have been working at a club for years have a smaller chance of contracting something. Again there is no science and who knows who is from where. These are just my opinions and thoughts from partaking in this hobby.
My advice is to take some precautions, have fun and don't worry so much. I think this site has some info on precautions you might look into, the internet also has some. My luck has been good and I do not know of anyone who contracted HIV. I know of one guy with herpes but that came from Thailand. Urinary infections is what I've encountered most.
Take care, anyone else care to chime in?
I'm not a doctor or medical expert, just a hobbyist.
Thanks for the thorough reply-I appreciate it. I did in fact speak to Stephan and he's a very nice guy. He said that all woman are checked before they begin at his establishement and their checked thereafter every six weeks. However, the obvious questions is : what can occur between those 6 week intervals? You can get infected the day after a negative result. Nonetheless, like you stated, there are some inherent risks associated with this endeavor that not only I , but everyone must be willing to accept. Thanx again , Francis
"it is safer to put your dick in a dogs mouth then a human mouth."
I get the point of course, but it sure would seem to depend on how friendly the dog is !
I got that response from a doctor of all people. While I see the humor in your response the reality is a dog seems to have a cleaner mouth then humans. Something about how the dogs mouth actually kills off more germs. Nothing to do with how sharp the teeth or how hungry the dog is?
I guess if you train dogs part of the risk is getting bit. If you're going to get oral without condom STD's are part of that risk. I don't think they invented a mussel for women who perform oral sex yet.
I think you mean "ex" instead of X, though...
And nothing will ever touch Atlantis (ok, the also dearly departed Showgirls BCN was in that class, but a different experience). Different era, different times. As you know, the ownership is now running GT, and the quality of the operation shows.
I know a guy who was so, ummm, moved by Atlantis, dude calls me up one day from the Atlanta airport, he sees some Lufthansa Airbuses, and starts getting teary eyed with me over the phone . While I wouldn't get that emotional over something like a FKK, I do understand his sentiment.