There have been a lot of posts recently bashing DC and its GREAT guys! Frankly, I have to disagree! I have never toured, except for a brief stint years ago with Body Miracle! DC has been my home base for the past 6 years and it has been extremely good to me, monetarily and otherwise!
In the past 6 years, I have had 3 NCNS and less then a handful of last minute cancellations. The guys here are, for the most part, very nice and considerate of my time. To say this town is full of jerks is just not true.
Things here have stayed steady even through the economic downturn in the rest of the country!
I feel sorry for the girls who have had a rough time here but it is certainly not the norm. I know a lot of girls who will tell you the same.
This is a very politically correct town with a tremendous amount of good guys, Up until recently, most visiting providers would agree, otherwise we would not be able to attract so much good talent!
In any event, don't bash an entire city for the actions of a small minority! DC ROCKS!!!!!
Peace
That makes us two. Two grown ups in DC that is.
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The fact that BarterBaby had so much cancellations. 9 in 5 days speaks to the fact that there was something about the whole deal that made the hobbyists think twice.
You can't paint all the DC Gentlemen with a broad brush.
Btw, 2 of those NCNS were from out of towners! IMHO, goes to show, DC guys are not the jerks that people having been stating as of late!
Unfortunately cancellations happen because life often takes a turn, even wiyh the best of intentions!
BarterBaby is a hot provider. Another really hot new provider came into town and guys decided to see her instead. I will make a guess the other provider charged $50 less than BarterBaby.
BarterBaby indicated that she has had problems with previous trips with cancellations. I am guessing the same thing happen.
Providers have told me they do very well the first year because they are the new hot provider. Then the next things drop off.
A few other providers posted they have had similar problems on the thread.
The market is saturated with talent. Also providers have told me that things are bad all over the the place and competition is very fierce.
I also have intel that some local providers are no longer offering incall. Reason being is that not enough guys are calling. I was told that some guys have down graded to 1/2 sessions. Yes sir I know some very wealthy guys who use to spend $300 an hour and now are going for the $80-$100 half hour sessions.
This stuff is not impacting the whole provider market it is a small segment from my analysis.
Fact is, I am in DC 6 days a week and charge $325 and it does not happen very often. Lots of girls travel through here, guys don't jump ship the minute someone else pops in, otherwise I would have left a long time ago!
Sometimes, just boils down to bad luck, not a bad city! Come on now! To me. your theory is flawed!!
There are some providers like yourself that are in the hottest category of providers. The reason why you don't get NCNS is that you are in the hottest of the hot providers.
This other new hot provider came into town with some very nice breasts like yours, lol. Guys go crazy over stuff like that. I know for myself I get an instant hard on and don't need a bbbj to get hard, lol with the nice breasts.
It's pretty rare for so many to have such "bad luck". May not have nothing to do with a bad city MAYBE .... but something seems to be in the water. Guys don't jump ship as soon as someone else pops in? Yes ma'am they certainly do. It might be rare for you but they most certainly do.
Sometimes, just boils down to bad luck, not a bad city! Come on now! To me. your theory is flawed!!
I agree... The economy is obviously affecting peoples' ability to hobby. But so many of this newer generation of touring "Indys" seem more about image rather than substance. And substance wins 10 times out of 10 for establishing long term repeat clientele. (Not to get too off topic, but this is actually a problem the whole country is coming to grips with now...but I digress).
Flashy websites and Scott Church photo shoots do not a great provider make. And just because you have those does not mean you will be successful in charging $500+ and hour in a market where attractive women are available for $250-350. Yet, that is what I see time and time again with a lot of the ladies coming through. If you charge that much and you are not both exceptionally beautiful AND providing exceptional service then word gets out, clients feel cheated and misled and you as a provider get little respect. It is as simple as that.
Those providers who have good consistent performance reviews and represent themselves accurately largely have no problems when they come to DC.
I'll tell my hot friends with consistent 8 or better in performances and appearance it's all in their heads then lol.
Flashy websites and Scott Church photo shoots do not a great provider make. And just because you have those does not mean you will be successful in charging $500+ and hour in a market where attractive women are available for $250-350. Yet, that is what I see time and time again with a lot of the ladies coming through. If you charge that much and you are not both exceptionally beautiful AND providing exceptional service then word gets out, clients feel cheated and misled and you as a provider get little respect. It is as simple as that.
Those providers who have good consistent performance reviews and represent themselves accurately largely have no problems when they come to DC.
I recently saw a provider who told me that DC is the best. She went down south for a week to a well know city and "Blanked" and up here she is doing fine.
Now is DC "The Best"? maybe, maybe not - I tend to think we may be slightly above average
Do I think NCNS's happen? Yup all the time (Even to us)
I called a well known agency and booked an appointment, got to the hotel, was given the room number, got on the elevator, walked to the room and got a txt as I was about to knock "Shes not there, she has (yes 'Has) to go to a funeral". Obviously I bailed but then as I was driving home (30min later), she txt'd again "she will be back in 10" and we went back and forth with me basically saying that I am not near the hotel and almost home. Needless to say I am black listed from them (and all of the sister agencies)
For the same reason she's not coming back to DC I won't see most agency girls. There are only two agencies I will frequent and I won't mention so they won't get emails to them saying "I am a jerk" (I Know I am a jerk when I get stood up, it is F'in BS)
I was surprised to see that post being "anonymous" and no one calling her out on it? I mean if she isn't coming back to DC why hide? If I posted something about providers or agencies anonymously I would get blasted..
I have been feeling that this board gets riled up quick of drama. Its a shame as I really enjoy myself in this hobby. I don't really have any real "Bad" experiences to tell, I mean getting stood up sucks, but its the risk we take and I can accept it. I always say preparation is the key to playing the game. (or start buying Preparation H)
Don't know all the details about her problem but I've heard this problem from more than just her and they too decide not to return.
Many guys will start a dialog with more than one in hopes to have a better chance of seeing someone. She just might have been at the bad end of the stick for this. But without knowing more details about her, we will never know.
It's a sad thing to hear someone has this bad of an experience and decides not to come back.
Thanks for posting this. I read the other thread, and felt the same way. I have never had a cancellation in DC. I love DC guys.
Oh, but then again, I love all men... Just can't help myself.
Smooches! Betty xoxo
The local ladies are awesome. Also, all the best touring providers stop here at some point. NCNS happens in every city, not just here.
I know a heap of providers local and visiting who'd say the opposite at least now anyways but yes that things were great as you said until recently. It may not be the norm usually but hearing gripes is starting to sure seem that way. DC area attracts and has attracted talent because of the type of town it is and think it's almost this huge moneypot like other certain metro areas (NYC, Vegas). YMMV indeed clearly.
In the past 6 years, I have had 3 NCNS and less then a handful of last minute cancellations. The guys here are, for the most part, very nice and considerate of my time. To say this town is full of jerks is just not true.
Things here have stayed steady even through the economic downturn in the rest of the country!
I feel sorry for the girls who have had a rough time here but it is certainly not the norm. I know a lot of girls who will tell you the same.
This is a very politically correct town with a tremendous amount of good guys, Up until recently, most visiting providers would agree, otherwise we would not be able to attract so much good talent!
In any event, don't bash an entire city for the actions of a small minority! DC ROCKS!!!!!
Peace
i think the NCNS happens to everyone . I have had a bunch happen to me . I also think a guy will go through with his meeting if it a sure thing . Stuff happens i had to cancel once on a visit. the second i found out i let her know . With Angelina ddd it is a no brainer. what see is what you get and she keeps it simple, nice incall and no surprises or games, and that is worth a lot in my book.
I suspect that there is much more going on when a girl has a lot of NCNS, bad service ,price out of range , false pics, Certain first reviewers so on on. A girl i visited was not busy because another women very simuluar to her was in town same rate far better service the real funny part was that this girl was getting calls from her for referances and if i was smart i would have done the same thing. but i made the appt and stuck it out so to say
i think when guys have doubts it is easy to NCNS because they may feel they are being decieved . they figure she missreprsenting herself to me so why should i go and TOFTT at a cost of whatever. the girl forget the customer is always right (within reason) without customers you can be the hottest girl on the planet but if you are a drag why should i waste my time and coin to visit you. if i want a bad time i can just stay home and get that for free . They forget there a plenty of Great Girls who will deliver consistantly.
The girls who are having a rough time something is up they arent telling you seeing how a lot of this bis is built on lies this isn't surprising . i have met a few and they always tell me it is the guys fault when if they provided a service worth what they charge guy will beat down the door to see them .
Smart women like Angelinia DDD come up with a model, stick to it adjust the model to the conditions and when thrown a curveball adjust to it. that is why they she will do well at whatever she wants to do in life sorry for rambling