Are you complaining because there is someone you want to see who has that policy and no profile on TER? Simply move on if that’s the case. You are not qualified to say it’s a bad business policy, it’s there business and they are likely doing far better then you know.
If it’s someone who has a TER profile and they state this as there policy in email, text, or website, that profile would likely be removed if TER finds out. If you’re so compelled you must write a review, be sure to use a different email address and don’t tell them you’re a TER member. But of course if you feel your reviews and VIP status is sufficient to give a provider then forget about it, and simply move on. If it bothers you so much you can’t let it go, seek help hahahaJust curious, what is the deal with the " No Review Policy"? The pictures will always look nice otherwise they wouldn't be posted but men looking to spend their hard earned money need more than just nice pictures. Who goes to any business in 2017 without checking out the reviews. Restaurants, Hotels, Airlines, Dealerships, Mechanics everything we spend money on the first thing we do is the research. Nice pictures and no reviews and nice pictures and one or more reviews? Easy decision, just sounds like a bad business move. Is this the new trend and if so why?
I don't really understand recent comments about "too ridged screening", "won't do outcalls", and now "no review policy (i.e. UTR)". Aren't there plenty of providers out there who fit into whatever box is desired? I recently met a provider who has been criticized for "too strict screening". I could tell it bothered her a little bit. I pointed out that no one is forcing a potential client to make them do something that they don't agree with.
Whatever it is that makes a provider feel comfortable is fine with me and if their particular requirements don't fit into what I am looking for I move on. Does anyone think a provider should change whatever it is that makes them feel safe just because we as clients might feel it infringes on our standards? Just because something limits the number of persons willing to play by their rules doesn't necessarily make it "bad for business" if that is the business the provider desires.
First and foremost, a note that ladies who are advertising on TER cannot have “no review policies”
I am assuming you want an honest answer to your question so:
There are many ladies who do not like reviews for a plethora of reasons. For some ladies, they find them distastefully graphic. Other ladies don’t like the idea of being “rated”, particularly since so much of the companionship business relies on individual compatibility. The fact that people use reviews as leverage against providers to push boundaries or negotiate for services/special treatment, and also that TER is inherently client-favoring when it comes to discrepancies in reviews. Many ladies consider this a hostile place for providers because of that, and especially after looking at some of the nasty exchanges that can happen here on the boards. And then there’s the knowledge that reviews can and do imply that you are exchanging sexual services for money - which is illegal. If you’re a provider in an area that has lots of LE activity, then it may not be a good idea to have accounts of your encounters on review websites.
I track business metrics and I would say that based on client trends/booking patterns... I could definitely entertain a no review policy if I decided that is the route I want to go. I’m sure that many ladies who track business performance over time could say the same. I do not mean to be rude, but it’s very interesting when clients try to say what is or is not bad for business. If it truly was bad for business, then these ladies wouldn’t delist at all. It’s just a different way of operating.
“... men looking to spend their hard earned money need more than just nice pictures. Who goes to any business in 2017 without checking out the reviews. Restaurants, Hotels, Airlines, Dealerships, Mechanics everything we spend money on the first thing we do is the research. Nice pictures and no reviews and nice pictures and one or more reviews? Easy decision, just sounds like a bad business move. Is this the new trend and if so why?”
Again, not being rude... but the line of reasoning you have articulated is a textbook example of false consensus bias.
Yes, reviews have become very popular across multiple industries- and the sex work industry has many parallels with hospitality and food, where review culture has become very important to how people decide on places. But there are still lots of people who just go to restaurants and hotels etc. without looking at what other people have to say about them. They want to go just because it looks nice, or it’s new to them, or the experience appeals to them, or it’s the easiest option to go with due to location and availability, or it’s affiliated with a brand/person/company that they trust.
Obviously, these policies do reduce the client base that relies on TER reviews before booking and means that you rely more on advertising placements via other websites for clients. But there are plenty of clients who book with ladies without reviews based on nice pictures as evidenced by many threads here (“omg her pics are so hot but I can’t find her on TER? Has anyone seen her”... I would be willing to bet that many of these people go on to see the girl because their dick got wet just looking at her ad), or nice websites. You also now have Twitter, which has definitely changed that way many clients seek out providers.
Your response/answer was well written and clearly answered my questions. Response like " Why is this a issue" or " Why is that a problem for you" doesn't answer or say anything and basically a waste of a response. Thank you Priya for providing me with a different look as to what goes on and why someone would make that decision. It all makes perfect sense and going forward I will have a new outlook and opinion regarding this topic. Too bad more people are unable to respond as intelligent as your did.
You’re welcome. Of course, the conversation couldn’t be civil for long.
Are you complaining because there is someone you want to see who has that policy and no profile on TER? Simply move on if that’s the case. You are not qualified to say it’s a bad business policy, it’s there business and they are likely doing far better then you know.
If it’s someone who has a TER profile and they state this as there policy in email, text, or website, that profile would likely be removed if TER finds out.
If you’re so compelled you must write a review, be sure to use a different email address and don’t tell them you’re a TER member. But of course if you feel your reviews and VIP status is sufficient to give a provider then forget about it, and simply move on.
If it bothers you so much you can’t let it go, seek help hahaha
This is a board with 1.5 million reviews and 6800 new reviews and you're complaining about women who don't allow reviews?
It's like going to a high-end steak restaurant and complaining that they don't serve pizza.
She could be new. Reviews terrify me. I’m 20 years older than most of my colleagues, I’ve had zero plastic surgery and I’m a foodie. I know reviews help to validate a provider but I get scared someone will say something unkind in a review (which has happened to me after refusing to meet him at a country dance bar for free). I did just fine for months before getting reviews. Then to add more we can’t ask not to get reviewed as it goes against TER policies. I know of a highly rated provider in Phoenix who was kicked off the number 2 slot for asking not to be reviewed because the date didn’t include something to get a 10/10.
What are you afraid of? Your reviews look pretty good. I thought that most of the women loved the attention and extra business that they get from the reviews.lol Who doesn't want to be famous.
Thank you. I guess I always think men want 20 year old French ballerinas to show up. Thank God for the men who love the girl next door and MILF look too!
Not everyone wants fame. I’d rather keep this as our naughty little secret.
There are many legitimately good reasons why a lady wouldn’t want reviews. But this is a service industry. You would think it weird if any other service didn’t allow reviews of them to be put online.
I don’t have the expertise or knowledge or right to say whether it’s a bad business decision.
But what I will say is that having no reviews and no way to be reviewed means that you’re not really accountable for bad service or actions. I can’t really imagine that any person wouldn’t prefer that.
That being said, a restaurant that didn’t allow reviews likely wouldn’t stay in business long because these days there are many good options.
So just realize you have really good options and just choose someone that fits your needs to be able to do research beforehand.
My time on here has been funny. When men bring up things like extras, and off the clock time, etc. the providers are very quick to say “this is a business” no one works for free,” but when someone tries to treat this like a business (reviews, discrimination, etc) the providers are quick to bring out the companionship angle and how this a unique connnection, etc.
Pretty good racket if you ask me...
We are not a restaurant... just saying 😐
Every lady has the right to manage their business as they wish
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No not a restaurant haha, but delicious dinning is available
And while some say no reviews, that doesn’t stop some from writing one. Just saying....
The best dessert 🍮
Did you read my entire comment. I clearly stated that providers can do whatever they want. That’s not debatable. But we can discuss this particular practice.
And no, you’re not a restaurant. Restaurants are regularly inspected and I have a reasonable expectation of cleanliness and safety.
I have no such assurances with a provider.
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Maybe you ought to limit you’re curiousity to providers who allow reviews. Just sayin....
You note it hurts her business. Ever think that she’s getting the volume she wants and has no interest in your business?
Except I didn’t say it hurts her business. I simply said that any business would love to not be held accountable for crappy service and if this were a restaurant or literally any other business that this wouldn’t fly.
Again. People can do what they want. But let’s not pretend that a no review policy is nothing but bad for the customer and great for the business.
I am just pointing out that it’s funny that providers are quick to point out that they are running a business until someone points out behavior that would actually never fly in a business, and then it’s “it’s my body, I can do whatever I feel makes me comfortable. I think it’s a funny double standard. I’m just pointing it out. I’m not saying anything will or needs to change.
Provides absolutely can and should do whatever they want. But we can still point out the hypocrisy.
I am just pointing out that it’s funny that providers are quick to point out that they are running a business until someone points out behavior that would actually never fly in a business, and then it’s “it’s my body, I can do whatever I feel makes me comfortable. I think it’s a funny double standard.
Tell you what. Next time you go to a restaurant, take off your pants off and pull out your dick. Make note of how you were treated, then come back and tell us more about double standards.
Use whatever business model you want. The fact of the matter is, is that when you withhold information from the customer, it’s bad for the customer and good for the provider. These things work better for everyone when both parties have full information. Ladies get that info by screening, clients by reviews.
If a hobbyist came on here and said that they hated screening, I’m sure there would be folks who would explain how screening is needed for safety, etc. Reviews serve the same purpose that screening does. We all have a lot to lose and all both sides want is information.
Why would you want to deny your customers access to the same information that you want yourself?
Like I said everyone is free to run their affairs however they want. But getting on a public message board and saying reviews are bad and it’s totally acceptable to not take them I think fosters an attitude that’s bad for the community overall. That’s the thing that I’m resisting. Not anyone’s personal policy. And it certainly doesn’t need to get personal towards me. I don’t think I insulted anyone.
If someone doesn’t want to see me based on this, just let me know and I’m happy to PM them and give them my real handle. But everyone that has seen me thinks that I am very respectful of them and their wishes and won’t write a review if they ask me not to.
Reviews are good, they are a large part of why the whole hobby has exploded. People feel safer to indulge. Let’s please not try to disparage the good they do for everyone. No one wants to go back to the days of no reviews. Just like no one wants to go back to the days of no screening.
are definitely not against consumers having the full information, they are against the graphic details, the propensity for harm, the blind approval of personal info, etc...
If the reviews were similar to other sites where it is literally a confirmation that the person is real, the photos are accurate, they aren't a scam? You'd hear almost no complaints. You have to admit that at current, it's nothing like that. You can't be mad at ladies for not wanting to be subjected to detailed descriptions of their private incall space, vaginas, etc. When TER switches to a more tasteful format and ladies are still complaining, then you'll have ground to stand on re: your personal safety. As long as reviews include "how many shots on goal" and positions? It's jerkoff material and fits into their characterization as degrading.
Signed,
A Heaux That Plays Along, but Knows It's Wrong
However we aren’t posting your information regarding details of looks and locations. Some prefer discretion and want to stay private. Not because of the desire to hide a bad experience of services. Just to stay as low profile as possible. I get that there are some but not all are with bad intentions for wanting to stay hush hush and not leave a paper trail of sorts.
I have been following a beautiful sexy lady on twitter lately that doesn't allow reviews. My intention was to get a feel for her personality and her likes and dislikes before I made the next step to make the appointment. One day I notice she said that she hates kissing with tongue and she thought it was disgusting. Which surprised me going by her fee. I wondered what or how I would have felt finding this out after my hard earned cash was gone and put away. It's her right to feel however she wants but now I know before hand and I can take her off my list. It's just tricky going in blind.
you're proving just as tricurious above that it's not about safety for you guys. I love kissing, but it's never a guarantee. Maybe breath is weird, maybe kissing style is off and I'm not going to provide anything I'm not in to. Hence why using reviews as a yardstick for what is available is not foolproof or smart. Comparing screening for our physical safety/not to be arrested or scammed to reviews to make sure you get the "services" you want is just not the means of winning anyone's sympathy.
Reviews are no guarantee of any services, nor chemistry, nor attraction.
Make the reviews 5 simple questions that cover safety and accuracy (scam? real? satisfied? accurate? etc.). Better yet, come out and support decriminalization so we don't have to operate in fear and we can discuss boundaries beforehand. Isn't that a novel idea?!
xo
Bravo! Well said.
How you express yourself... I wish you write under your real handle and not hide behind an alias... to make a mental note to not see you 🤦🏻♀️
That is a form of deflection. Of course you're not a restaurant, but you are a business. Reviews are necessary, maybe not every single client, but at least a track record. I for one don't need to know all the details, only that I won't be rushed, or ripped off and the service is legit. Some will say research, research, research, but what about providers that change their menu options with a year and have no recent reviews describing said changes? It happens, but we as clients don't have a leg to stand on when that happens, we are magically just supposed to know better and again are told to do more research. For those that implement a no review clause, thats fine, but then again why are they advertising on a Review site?
A lot of you suck. TER attracts A LOT of trash. In some ways, it's the new Backpage. Actually, in a sense, it can be worse than Backpage, because a lot of you like to believe that your status as reviewers and whitelisted members make you invaluable and highly sought after (whereas on BP, respondents typically don't have any illusions about their desirability).
Based on the responses here, some of you seem to think that any exposure is good. Not the case. Especially in a business like this. The girls who advertise here likely won't tell you this (nor should they, they're marketing themselves), but many reach a tipping point where the attention TER attracts isn't worth the hassle. Not worth the penny pinching, zip code hobbying, people who take to the boards to bitch about how you should be more affordable for them, or the guys who show up with their massive bucket list of sex acts. It's a turn off, and once a girl figures out other avenues to attract appreciative clientele, she wants no part of it.
Then, there are the tons of shady websites that scrape pics and ads from TER. If your profile goes up here, your images will end up on a bunch of shitty websites with repulsive names like "Erotic Monkey." And TER will give you rations of shit if you ask them to remove shady links from your profile. So to retain more control over where you're displayed, you just ask your friends not to review you.
I've made some fantastic friends from this site who I adore and who adore me. So don't get me wrong, many of you are fine gentlemen - But, you're quickly being outnumbered. Think of that next time you run across a girl with a "no review" policy.
Edited for point of clarity: Typically when these knock-off websites copy a provider's pics and profile, they'll submit a problem report to TER so that their shitty website gets attached to her reviews. Free marketing. And TER is downright stubborn when asked to remove these sham websites.
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Why are you here if your opinion of TER and the clients on here are so low. You already said that there are better options out there, use them! no one is forcing you to be here. The reviews are a useful tool for the clients to avoid the "TRASH". I really don't think most guys care about what a provider thinks about his reviews or whitelist unless he is a 'YES MAN.' You know, the ones who give up all of their personal info to the provider and the provider literally have them by the balls.lol When you say that the clients come to you with a bucket list of sex acts, it sounds like a woman that either doesn't like her line of work or just don't want to work for the money she is getting compensated for. Why don't you follow some of your own advice. TER is a business and they can run it however they like. This is what the providers tell the clients all of the time. If you don't like it, then find another place to advertise yourself. I find it quite rich when women come on here bitching about how they don't like the review policy here on TER because of privacy issues and turn around and ask a shit load of personal questions to their potential clients. I wonder how your clients would feel if they really knew how you felt about them. You can take the trash out on your way out!
You see, this is the kind of trash I'm talking about. I criticize a review platform and dude sees red....your objection to what I said isn't' even cogent, you're just rambling a lot of nonsense. Lol you're very upset, bro.
and he brings up a VERY valid point, you seem to absolutely detest everything about this place, Why the fuck are you here then?
All it was was incoherent rambling and asshurt about there being flaws in his beloved hooker platform. Why don't you tell us what this "VERY valid point" was, though, since you speak the same idiot dialect?
The thread starter questioned the motivation behind no-review policies. If you two lovers don't want an honest answer, then you know...fuck off and find another thread to read ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
TER sucks. In fact, all review and verification sites suck because they're an accountability mechanism. This is nothing more than patriarchal oppression.
We *HATE* informed clients that understand the SW market for services and are price savvy.
We *WANT* supplicating, cuck clients who will drool and slavishly nod their heads in agreement at whatever ridiculous bullshit we wish to impose WRT pricing, screening, or services offered. In sum, we want to be compensated handsomely with absolutely no accountability or visibility into the quality of services we provide by uninformed, pliant johns who will just fork over the cash with no expectations whatsoever.
(Can't say I blame you, it's a nice hustle if you can make it work)
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"The notion that my business may not be needed or desired scares the hell out of me. If I can't pay to get laid, what options do I have??"
I am a new provider but I was a dancer for many years. I realize that although I make waaay more money on My own that the strip cub?, I have to honestly admit I do treat men on TER better than I would with a man I near randomly. There is a sexy comfortability.. I get so wet thinking about my appointments hours before
They probably don't want this guy paying a visit:
https://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion-boards/washington-dc-6/ladies-just-say-no-303195?page=1
your machete comment was Priceless!!! And definitely brought the Important Point home!!! Well done!!!
Every lady in the sex work biz has different boundaries. I think it might help to see that whether or not a lady agrees to reviews as a boundary in her interaction with her current or potential clients.
Some ladies are truly elitist and think that they are above having reviews. Some ladies don't want to participate on the boards because they feel it limits them as an independent provider, and in allowing reviews, they feel as though they are not truly independent. Some ladies don't want their private sessions recorded in the written form on the internet, much like they don't want to be recorded on video.
Everyone has different reasons. I don't think though it's something worth fretting over. There are many providers who don't allow reviews, and then there are some who do.