I realize I was upset and I chose some strong words to describe Dc...for that I apologize....  
So I removed the title of this post...I hated reading it...not everything can be edited in life... But the post still stands....Never in my life have I experienced the uncouthness of a city so upclose and unpersonal....I confirmed an appt before I left on a date to the National Gallery of Art...hurried thru the Gallery and dinner to get to my hotel on time...for my 6pm date...and I have not heard from him..he is a Ter member...What more can I say..I am not whining..I am flabergasted!!
This makes #6

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I arrived in dc yesterday around 3pm..after a 3 hour delay ...in a day and a half I have had 6 no calls/cancels
How should I react?
One of your own chastised me for whining and not returning his email...I explained that last night I was a little bummed out after such a day...I said I preferred to think happy thoughts and unless he could say something positive to please not email me..he replied "Here is a happy thought...I hope on your next visit you have a great time..like the one you are having now...."
To me and anyone who knows me...I have loved this business...I have had some unusual encounters but for the most part I always put the pleasure I have for loving forefront..but this trip is a real reality check...

Some of these no shows might because of your mid visit phone number change which is very strange. By the way way how do you post about a 6PM no show at 3:29 PM?

Sexy, I hate to hear that you are having such a terrible visit to our area.  To have six TER guys cancel on you like this is outrageous!!

Guys, I could understand one, two, possibly even three situations coming up.  But obviously there is a real problem going on here if six of you bailed on her at the last minute.  I'm not sure what to make of it....  

If you cancelled on this lovely lady without a very good cause, you should think hard about what this board represents.  And if you did not even bother calling and were just a "no show", then you should be ashamed of yourself.  Cancelling at the last minute is much worse than just being rude, it impacts their livelihood!  These trips don't pay for themselves.

These women travel to this area in part because they have been assured they would have clients to see when they get here.  So you are not only making all of us look bad, but you may be influencing other providers's decisions about visiting the DC area as well.  Once we get a bad reputation, it will be very hard to shake it.  

And on top of this, I have seen that Lindsay has had problems with guys cancelling on her parties at the last minute as well.  I don't understand it, fellas.  It is very simple: Either be serious about making it to any appointment you make, or don't make one!!

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DC is not particularly known for a lot of no-shows, so who knows what's up. Maybe it has something to do with the holiday weekend, not that it's really an excuse.

Also, the timestamp is 3 hours behind our time (it's pacific time for some reason), so 3:29pm is actually 6:29pm.

Got a point about the phone change, not sure how that fits in...

-- Modified on 5/30/2005 5:04:10 PM

6 men decided you are not worth their time to even pick up the phone...this business operates on the premis of mutual respect....
What we give to oneanother really is priceless..we give ourselves..travel to depths that are unbelievable, out of this world at times...a place that should never be taken for granted....some men must take it for granted....for them it must be a service, automated, impersonal
Actually now that I think of it I was best off not to share myself that type of man...

Every date that I scheduled had my #..and this 6pm..we spoke sev hours before the appt
I reacted quickly when my phone refused to work and updated my website and emailed and posted on the boards
Try another reason
all is comunicated thru email
all of these appts were set up in advance..if you want to play
you play

SexyCarolina, sorry to hear about your bad experiences here in the city. However, being based out of the DC area, I have to say that such behavior is not typical of the gentlemen of DC. Every city has it's share of jerks and it seems you  have stumbled across some of the one's here in DC. To other providers thinking of coming out to DC, this is a great place for a provider to visit. The only problem I forsee would be competition as there are a high volume of lovely girls in the area.

not to argue or cause anyone pain...this is a reality..I am going to deal with it
it is for us all to figure out and hopefully never experience again...6 men took time out of my day that many other men would have loved to have shared with me..
I am moving on with my visit and promise not to mention anything else about this tour...it has all been said

She probably posted her reply before 6p.m...because this board is not on East Coast time.....and it shows up before our actual time......

I've been twice in DC and arriving tomorrow, tuesday, for another visit.
I love DC and the guys I've met so far. Each of my prior visits were for a week long and I only had ONE cancelation from a TER member.
I  always have a "waiting list" so I made few calls and the spot was filled without problems.
I think picking a big 3 day holiday like this, which is a typical family affair with barbecues, parties and so on was the problem.
The majority of our clients are married and have family commitments in a weekend like this.
Even if they booked you and thought they could make it, chances are they were in a situation that came up at the last minute and could not make a call to you.
Shit happens...and cancelations/no shows comes with the territory of being in this business.
Sorry, I know it sucks...but just take a deep breath and make the rest of your trip worth your while. I'm sure tomorrow, once guys go back to work, you will get calls. After a long holiday usually men are very horny

I know guys who call their bookies from closets and bathrooms. If these guys had appts, at least have the courtesy to call and cancel. Holiday weekend or not, its rude.

These types of games have been going on for the past 4 years in the DC area. Guys will book an appointment then cancel or not show up. THen at the last minute the provider will lower her prices to cover the costs, then bingo she gets real appointments.

It has gotton to the point that many providers won't tour the DC area because of this type of behavior.

I have seen happen to several providers from North Carolina, Boston, and Ohio. The holidays it happens the most are THanksGiving and Memorial day.

Unfortunately, you somehow got stuck with a bad batch.  I had a similiar experience my first time out to Philly... and believe me, I was not a happy camper!  However, I feel that now, I set up with the guys I have met.  I understand your frustration and all I can say is, hang in there, the DC'ers are my favorite thrill!

I do have a question for you though... what is your screening process?  I finally got it through my head that screening, diligently, almost never results in a no-show, and no-call situation.  If you have screened, please let us know the no-shows via back channel so we can avoid wasting our time as well.

If you are still in town on the 1st and 2nd, and have some time available and a need to vent, feel free to contact me... I would love to meet you sexy Carolina!

xoxox
Anik
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202-431-1723

Someone said post their names.. I agree.  Screw em.. If YOU provided crappy service in THEIR opinion, they'd be on here posting away about how terrible you were and their review would reflect the crappy service..

So, it's only fair that if you get stood up, then posting their names will alert other ladies about their rude transgressions.

It's too bad TER doesn't make a ladies only board for you to be able to discuss ladies only issues and problems without having guys in the way..

But post their names and lets see them squirm a little!  I bet they won't stand anyone up again, and if some ladies refuse to see them because of you posting their names, they'll get the hint.

If they had a problem and had to cancel, oh well, we all have problems and unexpected things come up.  But to simply drop a one line email, 'sorry, an emergency came up and I can't make it and i'll call to reschedule' would be enough to alert you.  A one minute phone call doing the same would work.  They had the time to make the appt, and you booked them in a space someone else could have used, so you lost over $1000 in cancellations!

POST the names!  If you didn't show, they'd certainly post your name!

--jb

I've alway's been curious about how many guy's actually don't show up for their appointment's without notification. It is pretty rude and uncalled for for either side to do so. Hell, even if you can't talk, send a text message at the least just as a common courtesy. I've certainly had my fair share of left in the dark stand up's, but luckily for us guy's, as aggravating as it is,  we're not losing money. Go ahead and vent, you have every reason to do so. Just don't hold it against all of us. With all the hooplah going on in town this weekend it probably wasn't the best weekend to be here. Still, as the other's said, it doesn't excuse them for not contacting you to let you know they're not going to make it.

I agree, as unfair as it seems, that sound's like it would be the same situation that got the provider Lisa, mentioned in a previous post, booted from here and the other board.

I don't remember complains from ladies from those city.. I also don't remember ladies lowering there prices for us due to no-shows.. For someone so new you know a lot about the ladies..Also the holidays are a crap shot, people are home with there families..

Agree - Anik has the right idea - build your client base and screen well and you will do well in DC.

Unless you like chaos. No doubt it would start a thread like no other before. Carolina may have been given TER handles - but who is to say they were from the owner? Giving up names in counter to all the principles and surely would not shine well on her future if it became known that a provider was dishing them out - what stops others?

I agree with everyone - that it was a despicable act beyond reproach. It is too bad those that are TER members couldn't speak up her and defend themselves or apologies.

I too would like to know what affect the changing of phone number had. Had it been me - if I could not reach her from the original number I would have considered her a no show and probably not have sent an email - what would be the point except to tell her how it first worried me - then pissed me off.

However, once it came up on the board - I would have posted my explanation - that has yet to happen so I am wondering how many were actual TER members of any significant standings here. Which brings up the point that was made about screening - it helps but isn't perfect.

The odds of someone losing 6 bookings in such a short time is astronomical indeed - and I sure hope won't ever repeat as such. But it is not only limited to providers but if I were to experience 6 cancellation in a row - I would quite this hobby.

I hope those TER members that may have been one or more of the 6 no shows come forward and provide a little more detail - but I doubt it will happen.

I would hope Carolina is sharing the information with the other providers.

would not allow me to post names...It is enough for me to post what I have....it is in many ways uncomfortable.....with the exception of reviews and b/c the relationship that exists between client and provider is very personal and in timate.... Before arriving I had follow-up emails and calls...also posted asking for conformations...you can see that on the boards...I first posted this tour several months..advertised it on my site...revisited the boards to advertise my tour...time is taken to find the perfect appt for everyone...
I reminded the guys Mon was a holiday....I certainly was prepared...I actually posted that my book was closed...you learn that at times not everyone uses proper protocol.....there are many reasons to cancel, and the 2 guys that called to cancel I was very understanding, thankful that they took the time....no show is another issue....
The men that know me...they know I am a sweetheart..I carry no grudges...this was a trip for me that meant more than work...returning to an area of the US at a time of patriotism abounding..and also my birthday...I was hyped!!!
So excited... I am a mom of 4 children, one starting college in the fall...this is how I provide for my own....
I can see that I have opened a can of warms and that is not my intention...I must say that several Gentlemen called, sent emails, and expressed their apologies...that was awesome..I did get to fill in a few dates...I did not have a back-up list with this being my first time here...Hopefully what we will take away from this is an understanding that we need communicate honestly with oneanother.
xoxoxoxo
Sexycarolina

...but you're all booked-up...or otherwise committed.

-- Modified on 5/30/2005 7:37:56 PM

came from other members of Ter and Tbd members that had not booked with me...they were genuinely upset themselves and offer explanations...it was very thoughtful of them..and some Gents called to book time with me after reading what was occuring...I am intelligent enough to know that this is not a true reflection of the hobby here..but it did fire me up a bit!!!! not what I expected....
I have never asked for deposits, and I probably never will...as for my change in phone #'s...the change took place in a matter of an hour...As far as I know I have not lost an appt due to my phone change...time will only tell...I was very lucky to have another cell!!!!
Let's get on with our livlihoods here and plan to have as much fun as we can. I know I am going to...afterall tomorrow is another day..my birthday!! Whoohoo!!
Play hard and safe!!
xoxoxo
Sexycarolina

7 emails that we shared with me offering dif times to accomadate you

Only 7?  You are lucky.  According to other providers, it is usually 20.  Look up mind-fucking in the dictionary.

...but I'm still holding out hope. Will No. 13 be the lucky email that seals the deal?

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-- Modified on 5/31/2005 7:05:14 AM

I hope so!!!
Cause I am in my Birthday Suit Today!!!
xoxoxo
Sexy

...it's usually closer to 30, but they're spread out over a day or two.

How have you been, my sometimes-nemesis? It's been a long time.

FYI -- I got a "D" in mind-fucking in Jedi school.

I don't normally post on the Board and I am more of a lurker.  But I really do hate this posting.  First and foremost, I am sorry that this happened to you.  The fact is that everyone is entitled to respect for their time- whether it is the provider or the hobbyist.  I can't begin to tell you about how many bad experiences I have had with providers and ASP's in general...and it has nothing to do with the geographical area.  Sometimes people can just be shits.  Plain and simple.  It doesn't matter what gender or what race.  There are dips all over the place.

It is too bad you had a bad experience here while touring.  But I don't think you've done yourself any favors by your comments.  If you feel this way about "the gentlemen in DC" I would suggest that you stay away.  You may have endeared a few to your cause, but I am not one of them.  I can almost guarantee that similar actions can be found almost in any city almost anywhere on the planet.  But that's just my .02

NoVa, it is Pacific Time because TER is headquartered in California.  That might explain why they don't seem to respond to all our gripes around here (like all those rigid review rules).  However, the same bad news might also be GOOD news.  If they paid any attention to how much we diss them over here on the RIGHT COAST, they might pull our ENTIRE board down....

I had a multitude of flakes for my incall set-up this week. Really annoying, I've got to tell you. In case any gents were wondering why incall is such a rarity for me, THIS is why! I don't have to deal with this level of flakiness doing outcall, ever.

Another thing I'd like to mention here is that it's also frustrating to have a guy ask for an appointment, provide references, and request a specific time... then I verify him and clear my schedule for him, pass up other appointment requests for the same time, and then I never hear from him again to confirm the date.

Come on, guys- I know you're not ALL flakey, but this stuff is ridiculous. I feel for you Miss SC. :/

Sexy, I have plowed through this ENTIRE thread and the previous ones regarding your problems with this tour.  I would have to agree with those who said that the Memorial Day Weekend did not help you any (even though you wanted to be in DC then).

 Obviously, you can tour wherever you want.  However, economics may modify the prudence of certain times and locations sometimes.

 I have said this several other times on this board for other touring agencies and providers.  Each time I do, it gets NoVa's LNQRbigdaddy PUKING.  However, ole "Charm City" just a bit up the road would certainly like to "offer" you a shot at OUR business.  We're not perfect in Baltimore either, but we certainly appreciate it when a provider notices us and gives us the nod on her tour.  We like to recommend BWI or Laurel area which draw from BOTH DC and Baltimore and do not require people to endure city traffic and parking to get to the incall.  However, if you would like to enjoy the city sights and set up incall within the city inner harbor area, we would certainly like to try to earn your trip.

"I had a multitude of flakes for my incall set-up this week." Oh that hurt's, I was probably one of them, LOL. I hope not because I enjoyed the time I spent with you.

Not you, darling. You I had a blast with!

I'll be back on the 15th/16th if you're up for Round 2. *evil gril*

That's good to hear. I promise, the next time you won't have to wear the chicken suit and throw egg's at me, what a mess that made, LOL.

Balitmore Inner Harbor is a hike for some of us..I hate to say you get a better quality client in D.C.. I won't go back to Balitmore again unless they are giving away free p$$$y..lol

Reon't do it.. DC is the central location for all..

Geographically, western PG and southern Montgomery counties are the central location in our combined megalopolis area.  Neither require dealing with city traffic or parking.

 The simple fact is that the real obsticles are the combination of the Potomac River and the northern two-thirds of DC.  Outside of DC, there are only two highway bridges across the Potomac: American Legion and Wilson.  Both are on the Capitol Beltway and both are generally miserable most of the time (regardless of which directions you are headed).  Getting across from NoVa to DC is not quite so bad.  However, getting into or out of DC from or to just about anywhere in Maryland is a real bear (at least in a car).  Without a car, there are problems for guys who want to bring little extras (like toy bags).  You also don't have much shelter once you leave Metro.

 Overall, I think those PG and Montgomery locations are truly the fairest.  Everybody on the north or south "ends" of our area have just about equal hassle getting there.  The only other eqitable answer is to make stops in both DC AND the Baltimore area when you tour.