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PorkPies 4207 reads
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What's with the sudden rate increases in the DMV lately? I've noticed rates have rocketed from the 350-400 range to 500 on upward now being the norm. Even my regulars are doing it. In those cases their rates are usually grandfathered.  

Was wondering if this is a domino effect of a few doing it, and then the rest following suit?  

They want to see less clients due to the pandemic so are trying to make up the cost? ....

MarieSimone See my TER Reviews 150 reads
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2 / 42

Rates increase over the years, and with things being weird right now, many providers would rather make more from seeing less clients. The world stopped but the bills didn't.

dwb 139 reads
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3 / 42

I actually haven't noticed particular girls on my "want to see" or "want to see again" lists who are raising their rates since COVID. That had been happening over the past few years. I've noticed more girls new to DMV or girls I hadn't known about before charging $500 or more per hour.
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That said, I know my opportunities to see girls have been drastically reduced, and I can't be the only one. I've gone from roughly 2-3 escort appointments a month with the occasional AMP visit thrown in to 3 total escort appointments since mid-March. So roughly an 80% decrease in activity. There are also guys who are spooked by COVID. So the overall volume of demand has to be down pretty noticeably for many providers.
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For independents who are maintaining an incall location that's not their own home and incurring other expenses, it's probably difficult. So if their volume is down anyway, maybe they come out ahead by raising rates.
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I am stockpiling cash and will be coming back strong when I can.

DaveMogal 74 Reviews 134 reads
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4 / 42

Folks making less than 150k for families got $2400. Singles making less than 75K a year got $1200.  Providers know this and priced accordingly.   The ones on the lower end of the spectrum are raising prices too. Many who pay for GFE have to have a BBBJ.

leostar 51 Reviews 107 reads
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5 / 42

But that was a one time hit...months ago...if I were only making $75K I wouldn't be seeing high end escorts regularly, and damn sure wouldn't have blown my stimulus money in 2 1/2 visits...

I'd have stockpiled toilet paper or something...

And men who have families in the DC area making $150K or less wouldn't be able to make $2400 "disappear" from the family balance sheet...

Black-Panther 140 reads
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6 / 42

My clients who own businesses (specific industry) are doing about the same or more in revenue. That being said, the swings are wild and 'lumpy' in revenue. One side of the business collapsed or is down at least 30-40%, while the other side is up the same or more to come to an income that is 'normal' for them. think plexiglass supplier that also does glass installs. Huge upswing in business for stores putting in barriers, but down for housing glass installs.

Also, fewer clients may mean a lower risk. Pent-up demand for those partaking in the hobby is high - and somebody who is a 3-4 visit per month client has saved up a lot of pennies and huge 'pent-up' demand.  

In the DMV, I've seen some pretty mediocre providers charging pretty high prices. Even some creep up in the agency world, too.  

At the end of the day, though, you don't have to pay those prices. There are alternatives if you want.

gators20022007 7 Reviews 143 reads
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7 / 42

Its can be difficult to see new providers in the $400-$500 range. In Texas there are a couple of discussion boards where providers post “specials” where they are willing to see clients for less than their regular donation (during a limited time).  I don’t see that in this area - does that exist here?

GaGambler 151 reads
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8 / 42

Math makes all his stupid claims look even dumber when exposed to the light of day.

 
But what do you expect from a guy who trades penny stocks with actual pennies? lol

 
Anyone on these boards who actually got a stimulus check needs either a new job or a new hobby, or both.

DaveMogal 74 Reviews 194 reads
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9 / 42

I high provider once disclosed to me that she was seeing a fireman. I was surprised at the time he was making 50K/year paying 300/hour to see her.

DaveMogal 74 Reviews 178 reads
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10 / 42

Many pay $80 to $150 for 1/2 hour appointments.

DaveMogal 74 Reviews 159 reads
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11 / 42

Only 40% make over 100K. Many of the reviews are for providers $200-$300/hour.

Newto1000 141 reads
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12 / 42
Black-Panther 113 reads
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13 / 42

If it is offered, it is usually visiting providers who offer it. There is one provider that is currently offering a discount of $150, but her rate is $850. She is stunning though and has a good menu and excellent service. I can't link her info because of competing website.

36363jensen 4 Reviews 136 reads
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jjason12 60 Reviews 152 reads
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15 / 42
gators20022007 7 Reviews 134 reads
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16 / 42

Thank you, but $700 is out of my league.

168_Forever 51 Reviews 120 reads
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17 / 42

Who? Can I meet her? Thanks

Black-Panther 147 reads
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18 / 42

Yes very steep, but if you ever get a windfall she is one of the few that I would say is worth it. Kind of like the quote from Ferris Bueller and the Ferrari. If you get the opportunity, very 'choice' and worth it to take her for a drive.

MaxFenig 14 Reviews 141 reads
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19 / 42

The reason for the price increase, and it did go up post lockdown, is the demand is up. I had a regular who I cannot schedule because she is so busy. One sees it when a girl advertises both incall & outcall, but won't travel because she does not need to. There are few ways for a man to meet a woman these days, and there are a lot of lonely guys out there.

DaveMogal 74 Reviews 216 reads
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20 / 42

I found a sight the other day with the providers that have gone from $300-$400 to $500 and more. They have taken down their ads on other popular sites. Some from the other popular sites have gone to this site and other sites with expensive providers.  

The clientele that uses these sites are highly compensated individuals ($300K/year salary or more) .  Many are working from home and have lots of free time due to lack of commute.  

One of the providers on the site I use to see. She use to be $300/hour to $400/hour. Back in the day she would have a riddle on her site to offer discount rates at $200/hour. Another provider that saw years ago 2011 was charging $200/hour. She is now $500/hour.  At the time I saw her she was very attractive and was worth $500/hour. The other provider I would not pay that type of rate now.

There are many options out there if you are willing to shop around. Some that use to be cbj non gfe have upgraded their services to GFE/BBBJ.  They use to be $200/hour now $400/hour. One was is an Asian.  I did see her at the lower rate and paid the higher rate $400/hour. It was worth it with her service upgrades.  

If you just want a regular provider there are plenty who charge $80 to $200/half hour.  Some will even do GFE at those prices.  I have seen one (cute redhead) who did GFE has low at $90/half hour.

TheNativesMan 41 Reviews 129 reads
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21 / 42

when the new laws came into effect. Within a few days, I saw rates increase up to 2x-3x. Then they started to come down. Many of the providers tried to grandfather rates but slowly the rates crept up and up.
I have had much better luck with SBs, much better value for one's dough, hence have gone that route most of the time in the past 18-20 months.

TheOB 72 Reviews 137 reads
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22 / 42

There are hundreds of guys out there who are just lonely.  This hobby fills a need even if they are living check to check.

DelhiBelli 30 Reviews 115 reads
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23 / 42
cageyboy 25 Reviews 108 reads
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24 / 42

Sugar baby.

36363jensen 4 Reviews 121 reads
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26 / 42
BentleyMarie See my TER Reviews 114 reads
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27 / 42

I have not increased my rates, but something that I haven't noticed mentioned that could be a factor is increased risk. Perhaps some ladies feel that it is more dangerous to work and want to receive more compensation for it. Just a thought from the other side.

DelhiBelli 30 Reviews 106 reads
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28 / 42

Are you in DC or visiting soon?

DelhiBelli 30 Reviews 116 reads
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29 / 42

How do you find SB? Please share some tips/websites etc!

BentleyMarie See my TER Reviews 109 reads
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30 / 42

I will be in Tyson's Corner in a week. Not there yet. August 24th - 27th.

BarryWright 41 Reviews 99 reads
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31 / 42

I'm not involved in the SB scene, but I think Seeking Arrangements is the most well-known site, nationally.
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The Erotic Highway forum here at TER is probably a good place to start getting educated.

TheNativesMan 41 Reviews 98 reads
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32 / 42

In my experience, in DC, after those 'laws', many providers raised their rates. Don't know about other areas and hence can't say much about them.

Life410 12 Reviews 145 reads
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33 / 42

Posted By: DaveMogal
Re: You would be surprised who pay the rates.
I high provider once disclosed to me that she was seeing a fireman. I was surprised at the time he was making 50K/year paying 300/hour to see her.
That's about median income, right?

Plus you don't know these peoples living arrangements...Be it a wife, GF, or roommates. Plus you don't know their bills nor gov benefits nor side hustle. Everyone don't live above their means with a mini mansion and have kids they can't afford.

jameskm1984 27 Reviews 114 reads
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34 / 42

Seems like a lot of the $500+ escorts I've been noticing are visitors. Go to DC Ads section and almost all of them are visitors and are $600+. Personally, I think anyone over $500 is not worth it. Once you get into that range, there really becomes no difference between a $400 GFE provider to a $700 GFE provider. I understand that prices in rent, travel, etc goes up and, therefore, so should rates. However, once you start asking for $700 and there is nothing to add to the experience from a $400 provider, then that's just GPS.  

 
I would much rather pay $1200 and see a top tier pornstar for a bucket list experience than pay $700 to a GFE escort when I can pay $400 for the exact same service and similar looks.

GoodHumourMan 112 reads
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35 / 42

Many of the ladies that I like the look of and are in my wheelhouse, have priced themselves out of my range. I am not going to debate the rates with them or ask for a discount. I just move on to someone, that I find visually attractive and can afford.  I sure miss the meet n greets we used to have, so that I could meet them prior and see if we had chemistry as well. I found many favorites that way. But I guess it got too risky to do that in todays climate.

TheNativesMan 41 Reviews 97 reads
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36 / 42

And that is what I never understood, pricing oneself out of the market. But perhaps you and I are not their 'market'.  

 
There's plenty of both mongers and providers around.. lust and oldest profession go hand in hand. :-)

Drumguy25 23 Reviews 105 reads
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37 / 42

I theorize thats exactly what it is...
There no longer seems to be a niche for " middle class" clients.
I would assume they prefer the higher six figure earners, who tend to book longer appointments and less frequently than the " average joe"...
So, you unfortunately have to drop a large portion of your hobby allowance on a single visit, or settle for subpar providers. The second of which I would find unacceptable.

DaveMogal 74 Reviews 141 reads
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38 / 42

People making 300K or more.

Drumguy25 23 Reviews 119 reads
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39 / 42

Thats why i said " higher six figure earners".
100k isn't shit in NoVa and DC...Hell, thats damn near poverty level.

cantdance 94 Reviews 137 reads
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40 / 42

Is this an example of a veblen good?

36363jensen 4 Reviews 125 reads
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41 / 42

Or a Giffen Good.

However I think before either could be claimed one would need to know what is happening on the demand side. Are the higher income/wealth mongers purchasing more at higher prices or are lower income/wealth mongers substituting away from other goods/services and purchasing relatively more sex?

I suspect the simpler explanation is that of profit maximization and a type of price discrimination. Demand is lower (but so is supply) and providers are finding they make more at a higher price even though they are not getting the same quantity as before. They may also be finding that the higher price is attracting a different segment of the demand curve (higher income/wealth) who have some interest in seeing someone new that shows up on the scene. That might not represent an actual increase in demand at the market level (just a substitution from one provider to another).

Black-Panther 118 reads
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42 / 42

Yes, a $100k would get you a nice one bedroom apartment, maybe two. You couldn't buy a house if you tried. You'd also be driving a Toyota Camry.

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