OK as I recall you left drove off later stopped realized you missed 2 calls and got texted then you replied, a little late don't ya think? Why didn't you call them the moment you left and got in your car? Why wait, what were you thinking? Had you not noticed they had called you, would you have considered calling them? When, the next day?

I am not defending this agency, but the fact you screwed up not calling them right away. You know the girl was going to, so I guess it's OK to walk and wait for the agency to call and ask you why rather than letting them know right away.

Now having read the review from the prominent reviewer even he state her face was a little rough but otherwise the same opinion for the body you say now.

They deserve the same respect as you do. I still want to hear from the others about the pics. They may be old. But I don't think that agency intentionally tried to scam you out of your hard earned money.

But I can see why you hide behind an alias, smart move, cover your ass. Except for one thing, if I was the agency and you walked out not calling or answering my calls, hell yes I would blast you and let others know also.

instead?

If you are a hobbyist who saw a provider's ad that appeared to be extremely hot... (Lets for the sake of argument refer to her as Sasha) yet you walk in the door and find a girl who is NOT what you even remotely expected... (as in, not anywhere attractive or resemble her photos, looks trashy, tired, hungover, does not even smile or hug you)... Would you stick around just to go through the motions on your dime, so that you don't offend the agency?

Or just walk out?

To make the situation more interesting, 1 or 2 days after you have walked out on her, you discover that this girl just received two good reviews from two well known hobbyists in town... yet you clearly remember that the girl you saw wasn't anywhere near what you'd rate a 9 in appearance but more like 4, 5 at best.

You are no idiot, so you begin to suspect the veracity of the other reviewers. It's either that these other guys must have a really bad eyesight, a very low standard, or more likely that they are getting some sort of shilling incentive for writing good reviews for new girls in town. Of course, there's no way to prove this so it's just a hunch.

And just as you are about to move on and forget about this whole unfair incident, you notice that the most recent review of this lady you walked out on has a much more realistic review by a hobbyist who's well known among the community to post much more honest reviews. In this review, he goes on to state that he does not mean to 'question the other two reviewers' yet clearly indicates that his experience was drastically different.

So you're not alone here.

And that's not all. The most interesting part goes back to the day you walked out.

So back at the hotel, you smoke a cigarette thinking of the hot time you could have had and at the same time feeling a bit bad about the girl since you really dislike making people feel 'walked out on'... and drive back home.

As you stop by at the gas station to pick up a soft drink, you noticed that the agency called you twice but you couldn't hear it ring because you turned it silent like you always do right before a session.

Subsequently you notice that this so-called reputable new agency in town had left you threatening messages that ranges from something like 'You can ignore my calls but we're pretty sure that this is a last time hearing from each other' and subsequent text message arrives on your phone that reads "Please do not contact us again".

Now you ask yourself, did they even bother to find out WHY an educated gentlemen who has never walked out on anyone before in his life and has great references from tons of other ladies would do something drastic as to walk out on a provider?

No, not at all. This agency was more interested in taking your money, no matter what, even if the quality offered was far below the level of standard many of us sane gents would pay good money for.

So, ladies and gentlemen, is this so-called reputable agency really a reputable agency that cares the least bit about delivering the promised level of quality and service for their clients...

Or were YOU the big dick big jerk for walking out on a provider who wasn't even remotely as hot as the photos advertised?



I thought about not posting this because it isn't in my nature to bad mouth anyone. However, the more I think about it the more I feel it was extremely unreasonable and unprofessional of an agency to handle matters in such a way. I don't think that this agency is necessarily bad as this might be just an isolated incident, however what I experienced was truly unprofessional, selfish, and appalling...

I understand your point...

For the most part I would say most girl's photos are not going to be close to what you see once you are face to face... going from  "9" in photos to a "4 or 5" live however could happen with any provider...

It has happend to me

I walked in and this girl looked horrible, eyes bloodshot,reeked of smoke,etc. etc. etc, It took a while but I soon found out that I walked in after a very bad (rough) multi hour session (Evedently this guy was verified through DC
so the agency did not hear of any problems - that soon changed after that day)...

I stayed anyway...  we took a shower together, I made her some tea, and before I knew it, she was coming around... (her face brightened and she easly went up from a 2 - 8 quickly) she thanked me in her own way and I was out the door... she slipped the donation back into my jacket even though I didn't want it back... since then I have seen her many times and she still remembers that fateful day back in 2006...

I also remember a "Marta" from MC who was honestly the roughest face I have ever seen... maybe not even a 3 in my book... The reviews said 6-8's... and once I saw her face I was completely bummed... didn't know what I should do... however if you look her up almost every review shows low looks, but amazaing performance... so I said "ok fellow beef jerky's I gotta see whos fibbing"

As the session progressed, I can say I had no issue with her looks and ended up giving her a "6" Why? because I couldn't see giving her low scores on anything when I left feeling the way I did... she knows she isn't the prettiest flower in the meadow, but she knows how to make all the boys smile... I could have put a "3" as looks but a "9" for Performance however I am sure most would have thought I was on crack..

Now I don't think you were wrong to leave, nor do I think they way you handled it should have been different... we are all doing this for all sorts of reasons... the review system has its flaws, but try to imagine without it...

I guess I can say some of us are wearing rose colored glasses to think that the agency is NOT out to "Accept" your donation... Capitalism is alive and well... maybe one mans golden cup isn't your cup of tea, doesn't mean you get a any brownie points from starbucks if you tell them long after it gets cold...

use your gut... but if you are depending on the review system to answer all your questions... you may end up like this again...

lastly your use of an Alias doesn't really give you more credit than posting a story, without some sort of correlation to reality, this is all just an exercise in what-if's

Maybe this would not have escalated   to this level if you called the agency as soon as you exited the stage.  Because you didn’t answer your phone, you heighted the level  of the situation which sometimes has people say & do things they may or may not regret later.  
You need to  call the agency and work it out like grown adults, but wait until a quarter past the hour when things are slower for them , so you have 5 to 10 minutes to break bread over the phone.
If this doesn't work...............move on and learn from your delay .   There are plenty of other aspiring actresses  out there for a love scene rehearsal.  Tape in ...3 ..2...1..action.

I replied to their text/email saying I didnt think the photos accurately resemble the girl and that I just couldn't go through with it. They never responded.

Appearance was 4 or 5 for the face and 7.5 maybe for body. I was more disappointed of the face than anything.

The face might be blurred out but I have exceptionally keen eyes.  I assure you that I've been a very regular contributor on this board for a number of years and helped spot a number of inaccurate photos and ripoffs. The facial features and distinct location of nose cheek bones, I would say no... the photos don't accurately portray her. Maybe very very old pics at best...

I'm not interested in anyone's sympathy. I just don't like inaccurate photos and also hate being threatened or bitched at by an agency who should've been more honest about their photos. Like I said earlier, I don't think they are bad and this just might be an isolated incident.

However, I work hard for my money and I earn it without being dishonest or decieving to people, and I expect all the girls in the hobby to do the same.

Thx

I was really pissed off and needed some time to think and cool down. For me, this is a necessary step to control my temper / anger during possible confrontations even verbal ones. I tend to be a little aggressive and vulgar otherwise.

Is this a concept that is too difficult to grasp for you? Or are you just a guy who never cools down or think about things before saying something? From your posts maybe the ladder appears to be the case.

The last thing I wanted was hearing dumb excuses, it prolly would not have been a nice conversation. Plus, any idiot with an IQ higher than a cucumber would know the reason why someone would walk out...

Besides, I did state my reason within ten to fifteen minutes. However, the most important thing is that it still does not justify rude behavior on the agency's part.

I wouldn't sweat being blacklisted by an agency if you acted in good faith. As for your allegations about subsequent reviews I wouldn't worry too much because the truth will come out in short order. The girl's business will drop off and the reviewers reputations will be suspect. This is the beauty of the perfect market.

walk out, that says alot about the agency who allow there girls to do bait and switch.

You've made some damning accusations against an agency and fellow reviewers. Your use of an alias makes it difficult to investigate your claims since you didn't name the agency or the girl. If you could PM me with the pertainent info. I would appreciate it.

Why didn't you call the agency the moment you walked out? The reviewer you mention gave her a 7 in looks, not the 4 or 5 you would have given her. So every one has a different opinion on what looks hot for them, that's obvious.

Also he made no mention of the photos being fake or over photoshopped. Have you contacted him to ask if he thought it was the same girl?

Having walked out not calling the agency right away was wrong on your part. What did you expect them to say or consider?

Have you talked to them since? Or are you hoping they read this and find sympathy for you and open their arms to let you see others?

If you feel so strongly about it to write out the details, why not out the agency and tell who the provider is? Are you hoping they will forgive you for walking out without giving them an explanation?

Sorry you do not deserve a second chance as you obviously have no respect for the agency or decency to have contacted them the moment you walked out.

As far as the others who gave a more favorable review and the one who gave her a favorable mini, had you the balls not to hide behind an alias and call them out on it maybe I would side with you. They would have had a chance to explain their reviews and why they did not make mention of the photo's being fake.

Maybe the lighting was different for them?

But actually, I think you shouldn't have bothered posting what you did and had the balls to contact the agency and let them know in a respectful manner why you walked out and your opinion might have been appreciated.

Sad story, hate to hear shit like this happen. But you didn't have the respect to contact the agency, and I have no sympathy for your being blacklisted from the agency, and likely many others because of the way you handled it like a man and gave them the respect they deserve as much as you feel you deserve.

For those who haven't figured out who he might be talking about, well I cannot be 100% sure so I will not say who, let him tell you.

Do a search and you'll find out who the reviewers are and which agency it is. The initial reviewer has been known for inflating grades and the second reviewer did indicate the girl does not meet his expectation in looks. You cannot just rely on the grades; you must read between the lines in the details section to know what the reviewer really thinks. The honest review gave her a 7 in looks and then the last review gave her an 8. BTW, the pics were blurred so we don't even know what her face really looks like except she's either Slavic or Baltic.

I've used this 'agency' many times and I am usually happy with the result. Once in a while, the pics were outdated; the girl has put on quite a bit of weight since they were taken. But this happens at almost every agency so it comes with the territory. You complain to the agency and move on. Walking out without any explanation to the agency seems disrespectful. I've walked out several times but I always called to explain why. They weren't happy of course but they accepted my explanation. I think OP owes the agency an explanation.

Good, you're looking at the same one I am. The well known reviewer gave her an 8 in looks but said in the details she was a 7.5 rounded up to an 8.

Knowing that reviewer I would have expected him to have called out the fact there was a problem with the pics, he usually does. And if this girl was like the OP suggest no better than a 4 or a 5, he would have walked out also I think.

I doubt that reviewer will weigh in here as he doesn't post much more than Mini's these days. As for the others, well, I hope they come out and give their side of the story.

slipry:

Damn it, get out of my head and you said it better than I probably would have.

We've never had this happen to us.
However I would hope our 'member clients' know if an associate doesn't meet the advertised standard at the door then respectfully decline and give me a call. The time to kill an appointment is before it starts man up and  give  an honest account why. In the "delusional world according to me" any reputable agency should grasp this concept. This is assuming of course the agency in question has an excellent reputation for honesty and the client doesn't have a history of at the door declines.

Balance applies here.

Sincerely,

Lee Dreams
It's all about integrity.

No actually I'm level headed and realizes not everything revolves around me. I have walked out on and tossed out fakes before, yes as I said I hate when shit like this happens. But I can control my emotions, unlike you.

Disappointing to have your hopes crushed and the time you wasted. But OK, it is how you address the problem after that makes all the difference. In this case you could avoided all this by simply taking a deep breath and calling them right away not leaving any doubt or misunderstanding as to why someone would just walk out. Alternate reasons for why some people just walk out, they forget their money, had an emergency call from home or work. Or as in your case, they didn't like what they saw but didn't think they need to call back the cucumber as you say.

Your way of taking the time to cool down as you say obviously didn't work. And from what I have read you didn't call them, you took the cold non personal approach and sent them a text. I would have made the call after hearing the voice mail and seeing the text messages. I would have kept a level head and apologized for not contacting them immediately. I would have kept a level head and told them how disappointed I was when she opened the door and I felt as if the photo's where far from representational along with all the reviews. In the end I would have said sorry, but she was not what I expected and I'm not paying for it.

Maybe you might want to reconsider how you handle this type of situation in the future. Take a deep breath, call the agency, let them know why you are leaving. If they become belligerent and confrontational, it's up to you how to respond. But don't come here and bitch about being cut off and not understand why is all I'm trying to say.

Good luck in your future with agencies and I hope all those you see meet your expectations or exceed them.

One man's beauty could be another man's beast and vice-versa.  So it's not fair to criticize other reviewers on how they rate looks.  Personally, I think every girl has the capability to be beautiful.  Therefore, I tend to score on the high end compared to others.  Performance is also subjective, thus YMMV.  The only variable that really gets to me is attitude.  I will dock points on looks for a bad attitude.  I will also increase points for a superb attitude.  The whole experience is more important to me than just looks alone.

At the very least you should have contacted the agency and expressed your
displeasure and disatisfaction about the meeting. If they are a reputable agency
they should offer you something to keep you as a client.
 If you have a good relationship with an agency  its important that they know
how you were misled so they can take corrective action. ie current pictures. ect..
And I probably should have done the same thing and walked a few times and didnt. Hell, you
could have turned out the lights, LOL, and hoped the performance made up for the
appearence. A phone call might make this better for you and the agency. In the end the
real truth will come out on her and the agency.

Of course every one is going to tell you what YOU did wrong.  If you dare act like someone who expect to be treated fairly many hobbyists aren't going to appreciate it.  Next time just go thru with it, give her an 9/9 review and shill away.  That's the best way to fit in.

I disagree with the photo accuracy.  The blurred face shows enough facial details that I could easily recognize, but wtf do I know. I could be mistaken but what I see is what I say. Anyway, I won't beat this horse any further since I agree with you about the practice of glamorizing as well as not being too insulting.

Also, I stand corrected that you did give a reasonably accurate description that she is 'rougher' than expected. I initially meant to criticize the other reviewers instead & shouldn't have drawn you into this.

Guess I wasnt the only one who felt that way.

Lol

Since most are too thin skinned to take criticism or other people opinions that are not in agreement with ones own.

The OP was a sad story, one others have experienced before, to some degree or another. Each person handles it in their own way and chooses to either keep it to themselves, share it behind closed doors with their friends, or publicize it as he did.

The differences I've seen with this type of experience is how some will openly confront the agency and resolve the problem immediately and without publicizing it, or challenge the agency openly on the board for all to see, or do as he did and post what is basically a useless rant that goes unsubstantiated with fact and information useful to everyone else while hiding behind an alias.

The other thing I see is almost every time the posters are jumping the gun lashing out in anger and could have resolved the situation had they tried to. In this case had he called the moment he walked out it is possible the agency would have understood and he might have remained a client, if he wanted to.

But who is to say what the difference really would have been had he made that call. The agency has not stepped in to make their side known, and I am not sure they should.

I am not saying he should have stayed and paid. I understand how he felt and likely would have done as he did and walked. So I commend him for standing up to principles and doing what others seem to have a hard time doing, walking away when it's not the one you expected to see.

I always laugh at those reviews where the guy walks in sees it is not the one they expect and pays anyone later to bitch and moan in a review.

I do hope he can understand and accept some responsibility for why he has been banned by the agency and maybe the agency will forgive and allow him to see others.

BTW, I have never used the agency and am not kissing any ones butt hahaha, well, I might kiss yours OC, just promise not to post as an alias to bitch about it OK.

I've met you in person a few times Slip.  But I don't know your real name, phone #, email, etc.  I can't hurt you in any way.  An agency that has all this info and maybe even the name of your employer. They can cause trouble. Using an alias makes sense.

People love flexing their fake muscles with this alias thing.  Only the bravest will post under a handle.

In this case hiding using an alias did little good since the agency knows exactly who he is from the level of detail he gave and yes has his personal information. So the only one he is hiding from is the rest of us.

I really don't have a problem with using an alias, I use them all the time hahaha. Most of the time it is to get a point across and not for flexing my imaginary muscles. I had even considered using one this time but decided it was better to let him know who he is talking to, not that it really means anything, just thought it was more appropriate not to hide when voicing such a strong opinion and POV.

And yes the bravest will post about something like this not using their real TER handle. Some of them are also stupid and come out complaining before trying to resolve the problem and everyone tells them much like in this case their might have been a better way to handle it.

In those cases when they open mouth insert ass they can only hope no one else can tie their TER handle to the post when trying to arrange a meeting with an indy or agency hahaaha.

Oh as for you forgetting my name, email, and phone number, that's ok, I'll stop over to your house later today and give them to you, if your not their I'll leave a note - hahahaa

It's Friday, would enjoy meeting for a Happy Hour beer, but I think I lost your phone number also hahaha

It takes at least an hour for you to stop talking.