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Attracting New Clients
Vanica See my TER Reviews 1443 reads
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Not to say I don't love (and reward) my regulars, but I am always trying to improve and attract new friends.

Gentleman, other than positive reviews, and an attractive website (both of which I and many other ladies have) how do you decide to see someone you have never seen before?

This question is more for thé veterans of the hobby, but I invite newbies to add their input as well.


Kisses,
Vanica

i think reading interesting post questions such as your is a way to start. alot of times i peruse through the ad boards and reviews, but i don't think that necessarily reveals a persons personality or character.  sometimes a simple entry or posting does wonders. take your post for example, well written (grammer and syntax.. well to me atleast) and forward.  you ask your patrons what are some of the deciding factors on seeing a provider they have not seen before.  a post like this could definitely be a deciding factor.  to me, it reveals that you have initiative and that could compliment your personality and character. i like that. =)

just a newb's .02

Beg2differ670 reads

1)  Up-to-date photos with minimal photo shopping - while photos from a few years ago show how beautiful someone can be, if they are over photo shopped, it can be a turn off to some & recent photos can help push someone over the edge in making a decision that they might have been holding off on.....

2)  A special limited short time rate - cut your rate by 25-40% on your 1 & 2 hr sessions a couple of times a month on days of the week that are typically slow for you - watch your appointments increase....

3)  Offer a special meet-n-greet package at a very nice rate - meeting someone in a nice bar for a drink or two prior to an appointment can sometimes be a huge icebreaker; even your regulars might like to be seen with some eye-candy for an ego boost....

A provider that I've not seen in a while did both 1 & 3 and I have an appointment with her coming up in the very near future, just by her doing a couple of small things and redirecting my attention to her...

1. I do up date photos on my ads at least once à month.

2. Anyone who knows me knows I havé offered specials on many occasions. As a matter of fact, right now I offer 20% off on Fridays - have been for a month (the month before was Tuesdays). A special only one (1) person has taken advantage of.

3. This idea is the only one I havent tried.

Thanks à milllion

Kisses,
Vanica

Vanica, great question.

You've mentioned the basics like reviews and a good website. But if you have in mind the kind of client you'd like to attract it could give you new ideas.

For me, I'm very attracted to someone who portrays herself professionally on her website, ads, on the phone, email, the whole works. On the website, I want to actually learn something interesting about not just you, but the world too. (Made up example: "The kind of coffee I like is grown only in northeast Venezuela where the climate is perfect for coffee beans.")

Prompt responses can make all the difference in the world for those of us who only have limited moments to check our hobby emails, etc.

Friendly and mildly flirty communication definitely holds my attention. Of course, push this too far and it can work against professionalism. A girl who navigates this balance shows her intelligence which is very hot to me.

And lastly, the surefire way to attract me would be to reach out to me. Of course that's very difficult for you -- clients don't usually advertise except an occasional ISO or similar. But knowing that a pretty lady is reaching out to guys like us will virtually guarantee at least a look, and I'm sure on average it would attract new clients.

Not every guy would care about all these things, which is why I suggest starting with imagining the sort of gent you hope to attract.

Anyone who has taken the the time to read my website and blog knows it's not just fluff. I even write erotica. LOL

Flirtly, e-mails are tricky. I know how to not cross the line, but sometimes when I flirt a gentleman goes too far. And I can't blame him as I started the exchange. But it can be awkward after that. Especially if he is new to me. Most ladies havé guidelines for new clients and any explicit language over the phone or e-mail. This I therefore save for my current friends.

As for the "ISO" post, my schedule doesn't really allow for last minute endeavours. As well, it is more than likely when I do see them, i do not fit the criteria (race, location, etc.)

Thanks for your input!

Kisses,
Vanica

IkeTurnout439 reads

I agree with most of what has been said here- especially the "introductory rates" for new clients...you've been on my must see list for quite some time, and although your prices are totally justified, an initial incentive would likely be undeniable, kind of like a Black Friday "doorbuster" lol, especially for those on the fence

Posted By: Vanica
Not to say I don't love (and reward) my regulars, but I am always trying to improve and attract new friends.

Gentleman, other than positive reviews, and an attractive website (both of which I and many other ladies have) how do you decide to see someone you have never seen before?

This question is more for thé veterans of the hobby, but I invite newbies to add their input as well.


Kisses,
Vanica

TheSkyFell336 reads

Special rates for new clients sounds good in theory but really it only appeals to the type of men who are trying to one and done everyone in the industry to say they did.

Special rates for known clients is much more reasonable to me.

I appreciate everyone's attempt to maximize their income.  However merely increasing the cost of service in any profession does not usually accomplish this goal.  In business there is something called elasticity of demand which is a measure of how demand for a product or service goes up or down with the price.  Obviously if you reduce price to zero everyone will wan the service.  As you increase the price demand will go down and will go down faster as the price increases even more.  This eventually results in such a decrease in demand as price raises beyond a certain point that sales or income decreases as price increases.  IMHO that point has been reached my many of the providers.  I happen to be one of the more well healed who participates in this "hobby".  That said I have a very difficult time paying anyone more than 300 for an hour time.  Consider that a man earning 100,00 per year earns a rate of about 50 per hour.  It takes 6 hours of work to earn 300 - a lot of time.  Once again IMHO, and without any scientific evidence I believe that income for a lady probably starts dropping when she exceeds 250 per hour.

The other comment is about time spent.  When one hour is advertised one hour should be given.  I am not suggesting that there should be one hour of continuous vigorous activity.  That would be exhausting.  I have no doubt that the ladies who are active on this board have enough skill and knowledge to go slowly and to make things last a while rather than trying to rush events to a quick conclusion.

This is just my humble opinion.  Obviously everyone is entitled to charge whatever they believe their time is worth and to run their business as they please.

Posted By: Vanica
Not to say I don't love (and reward) my regulars, but I am always trying to improve and attract new friends.

Gentleman, other than positive reviews, and an attractive website (both of which I and many other ladies have) how do you decide to see someone you have never seen before?

This question is more for thé veterans of the hobby, but I invite newbies to add their input as well.


Kisses,
Vanica

I offer specials EVERYDAY for the gentleman who might find my rate little high. As a matter of fact I have a friend/client who thru my pre-pay discount has never once paid my full rate. Instead he get 25% off each time. A lot of guys think pre-paying is too risky. There is risk involved, but that's why I offer the discount.  When à gentleman pre-pays, he eliminates a lot of my risk, so I can pass that on to him in savings. Makes it a Win-Win.

Even beyond that as I have expressed in prior posts, I do offer specials which do not require pre-payment.

Thanks a million

Kisses,
Vanica

IkeTurnout348 reads

I'm glad that you posted on here; sometimes the back and forth gives insight about people- you seem to be very well put together- I don't totally trust reviews, but based on this exchange, your stellar feedback seems valid.  I think that these boards are a good way to garner interest.

Thanks for the nice comment.  While I agree that there is risk with prepaying it can be minimized by visiting ladies who are well reviewed and well regarded on this board.  That is in fact one of the purposes of this board.  To attempt to minimize risk.  I have paid in advance on many occasions with ladies I know and have never been stood up or cheated.  In fact I have paid in advance just to help a lady on several occasions without even scheduling.  No problem at all when I scheduled at a later date.  It just depends on both parties knowing each other and being ethical.  You also need to use the one strike and you are out rule.

I too, love my regulars, but I do truly enjoy meeting someone new.  I love the anticipation of meeting a stranger whose world I can rock!  I have had gentlemen tell me they watched my ad for months, and in some cases over a year before they went ahead and booked an appointment.

After awhile, it seems getting new reviews slows down, as many gents seem to feel that there isn't a need to repeat things that have already been said.  At least, that has been my experience lately.  I appreciate the feedback that has been provided thus far and will take that in consideration going forward.

wrps07281 reads

The market has changed a lot since you became a internet provider. There are more websites to put ads on. Also the average type of client has changed. Once you understand those modify your marketing plan.

Beg2differ413 reads

I've not seen her in a while, but I do think I will need to reach out again soon as that wonderful smile is worth the trip all on its own...

Hmmmmm.  Call it a mid-hobby cirsis of sorts.  I have not booked a session since November.  I travel often so that also goes for my recent road trips.  Why?  Part...the more things change, the more they stay the same.  Part...maybe I just needed a break.  The only sessions I'll be having in the coming weeks are with ATFs.  One I recently met in November who I'm looking very much forward to hanging with.

I've been doing this 12+ years now.  One of my primary attractions with the hobby is the hunt.  Well it has gotten to the point where what's behind door number 1 is disappointing and/or not much different from what's behind door numbers 2 and 3.  As you know, a lot of the input your looking for comes down to personal preference when a client is looking for a new rendezvous.  The success of the appointment for me is dependent on the combination of several factors, namely....the physical, the vibe, and the passion.  If a providers session contain the following features then I will be placing her on my bucket list.

- Rate friendly: This has been discussed enough and I dont have much more to offer other than to echo the economic elasticity discussion above.  This discussion is particularly true for a hobby veteran.  At the end of the session will my satisfaction be better if I pay $500 + vs $300.....not likely.  As you note and as your website clearly discusses...you offer specials, discounts, etc.  I will note that some ladies scream....come take advantage of my specials and the discount turns out to be $25.  HUH?!?!  mighht as well say.....no need to tip me this time.  $20 off here or there aint no special.

- Multi hour speicals:  This is where I live.  I'm a man with a slow hand and an attractive 2+ hour discount gets my attention.  I would rather relax and enjoy the journey vs getting the tap on the shoulder......."you want to take another shower before you leave?"  

- The Vibe: This one I really cant explain.  But there are some provders who can make an 1 hour seem like 2 and 2 hours seem like 4.  To achieve this there needs to be a real, perceived or illusionary vibe/attraction/flow...call it what you will.  My ATFs are all masters at this.  Of course this is something a new client may not necessarily pick up from your website but the initial phone converstion does provide an opportunity for the provider to make the client feel as if they're long lost lovers/friends/etc.  I've been able to identify ladies with this potential skill via their phone persona.  Of course doing the deed will tell it all.

- The physical: Not much to say here other than this boils down to personal preference.  For example, all ladies who posess well above average sexy legzzz gets a look from me.  However, as has already been noted....overly airbrushed and too old pics are not a good choice when the live version is distinctly different from what's advertised.

-  The passion:  This is similar to the vibe but rare to achieve in my experience.  The pull this off the lady has to be a great actor or the connection/vibe "professionally" strong.  Professionally strong means to me that while we may fuck look wild animals or long lost lovers in bed we aint tryin to catch feelings and muddy the waters with talk of us two having a real world relationship.  From an advertising perspective, IMHO this can be captured if the provider can present the feel that she likes what she does and the services she provides.

I hope it didn't too much.  my.02.

Just today I had a new-to-me experience where I met a new (again, to me) provider for coffee as our first physical interaction.  We have been communicating off and on by email and PM for probably three months or so.  And my goodness people, I would absolutely do this EVERY TIME given the opportunity.  The only expense for me was...well...paying for coffee.  And the result was that I pre-paid a date with her for next week so that she knows her primary expense is covered (she is well-known and admired here, and exceedingly low volume).  

If you are a local provider and a guy is willing to show up at your neighborhood coffee shop and buy you a cup of coffee, isn't that worth a 15 minute investment of your time in terms of business development?  I mean in an industry where you are making $3, 4, $500/hr and up, I would think it is a no brainer.  If one out of three coffee dates results in a booking, and one in three bookings results in repeat business, then hell....I would be doing this so often I would be fucking addicted to coffee if I was a provider.

:-)

Other thoughts sweetie......some guys are hesitant to ask for what they really want and need.  
I am SO over the fact that stinky feet on a beautiful women is pure ecstacy to me, nobody here knows who the hell I am so it doesn't matter.  But it can be difficult to share these things with you gorgeous women - the fact that you are all so pretty makes it particularly difficult at times - anything you ladies can do to communicate "hey, trust me, I have heard it ALL and the worst that can happen is I say no" probably works to your advantage.  The words "fetish friendly" ALWAYS catch my eye because of my foot fetish, start posting pictures of your feet on your website to communicate that you "get it, and accept that many guys have this fetish", and your chances of getting a call from me go up exponentially.  List the fetishes that you have satisfied for men in the past on your ad and your website and add the verbiage "please just tell me your needs, and lets talk about whether I can help", and I can almost guarantee you start seeing new business honey.  At a certain point, after decades, some wives simply stop taking care of these things.  Part of your job is to fill that gap babe.

Good luck, and thanks so much for being there for us guys.  You ladies are appreciated more than you know.




Vanica:

I haven't had the pleasure of seeing you.  I saw you at an M&G a while ago but time slipped away and I never had the opportunity to meet you.  Not yet....

I noticed that you said your pictures are recent.  I looked at your site under the recent photos.  A couple of them were undated, the other 3 were from December 2011.  I am constantly concerned about outdated photos and misrepresentations in photos.  I am not saying that your photos misrepresent anything.  In fact, when I see those December 2011 photos I kick myself for not being the person taking the photos!  Can you clearly show us updated photos so that the caller has an accurate idea of the person he is going to see?

I think that in insightful yet intriguing presence on this board, along with advertised specials will help as well.  

When I look at your reviews I wonder why we haven't met....

67dc

afunman274 reads


   You should lower your hour rate to $250 or $280.

   This area just has too many choices for you to charge $350 an hour.

   Your body type, ht and race aren't in high demand.

Posted By: Vanica
Not to say I don't love (and reward) my regulars, but I am always trying to improve and attract new friends.

Gentleman, other than positive reviews, and an attractive website (both of which I and many other ladies have) how do you decide to see someone you have never seen before?

This question is more for thé veterans of the hobby, but I invite newbies to add their input as well.


Kisses,
Vanica

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