This is in response to the Value of Time OP below. I post as new thread to promote others sharing their extended session experiences.
So, I arranged a weekender with an ATF of mine. I flew her out to the West Coast as I was visiting out there on business. The plan was for her to fly in on a Friday late afternoon and we spend Fri, Sat and she flew out early Sun morning. Before this weekender we had met on several occasions but this was the first extended time period we were together. For those who don’t feel like reading the entire account, THE MORAL OF THE STORY IS: When arranging extended stays, keep your expectations in check as real life happens. I would advise anyone who ventures down this path to PLAN for real life activities to happen. I know as the paying customer, you expect, or at least I did, that she better be at my dicks every beckon call. But the reality is, the lady is not a robot or a blow up doll and the longer the extended stay the more real life may impede. As always, communicate up front, realistic expectations of the time spent together. NEVER, EVER, EVER, EVER plan an extended stay with someone you have ANY questions about chemistry or their being potential for her to be BSC and/or have a Mrs. Jeckle and Ms. Hyde about her. I had been seeing this lady for a year easy before I pulled the trigger on a weekender and she still pissed me off during the date....LMAO! Two hours of total time not focused on you is NOTHING on a 24 hour date. Yes, the preparing for the next date on your time was inexcusable. And yes, I would mention it as a matter of fact in a review to alert others and to give her a heads up that it was not cool and disrespectful of you. EXPECTATIONS: Leading up to the weekend my mind was telling me that this is gonna be a fuck all the time; on demand sex fest. I had this expectation cause she was an "A" type personality, lots of irons in the fire, working on this or that, texting, emailing, etc.. So my mind was like..."fuck that, if my dick gets hard I want her on it as soon as the blood starts flowing. Hence, anything short of this, I had in my mind, that I was going to be disappointed. With that said, I was not planning for this to be Rick James, hold Linda Blair hostage situation. I made plans for weekend activities like dinner, a concert, movie, etc.. REALITY: I picked her up from the airport and all was good from the airport on the drive to the hotel. We get to the room and sure enough, she settles in, gets her luggage straight. After this we take a shower together and commence to have a welcome to the West Coast fuck fest. Relax and then get ready to go to dinner. Off to dinner and she looks hot as Hell, plenty of flirting, PDOA all leading up to a return to the hotel for another after dinner romp. Sleep, then up in the morning. Now this is where your story parallels’ with mine, kinda. So I wake up with the proverbial morning wood. I don't make any advances as she has already gotten up and is dressed to hit the hotel gym for her workout....she was a Pro level fitness type so this was a legit part of her routine. Cool. She returns, showers and begins to catch up with her life..texting and emails. Hmmmm, I don't press or push anything I just go with the flow and I too was also maintaining my real life i.e. doing work related stuff, necessary phone calls on the balcony, etc. Then, as time moves into early afternoon I suggest a massage for her workout, she eagerly agrees and we move into fuck fest #3. We then agree to go see a mid-afternoon movie. I really enjoyed this part of the weekend. There was a movie theater within walking distance to the hotel. As we were walking guys were damn near asking me for my autograph. I like arm candy and she was made for it!!! I also like plenty of PDOA and she was all for it. Had my dick hard damn near the whole movie. Back to the hotel, nap, quickie fuck, and then prepare to go to a concert that evening. Off we go...... This is where i got pissed. I'm a jazz guy; she's a Madonna/Prince girl. She totally did not get the artist who was playing. Mind you, I asked in advance would this be something she is interested in and she said yes. But after his first song or two she literally crawls up into a ball and attempts to take a fucking nap...WTF, sit your ass up and I slapped her across her ass (that's what I said and did in my mind...LMAO). Even the other patrons were looking at me like..."WTF is her problem?!?! Looking at me like..."should you be taking her to the emergency room because she must be sick..." After the concert I kept it chill, nothing like being 3,000 miles from home and get into some domestic like dispute with someone who is not suppose to be your domestic....WTF. However, she was forthright about things on the ride back to the hotel as she noted sorry for the laying down but the artist just did not do it for me. OooooK. Back to the hotel….. water under the bridge. We hit the Jacuzzi together and linger in a soapy bath with lots of contact and sexiness, then off to bed for another fuck off. This was say at about 1:AM. At about 3:AM I'm ready for another round before she leaves. But she would not budge like she was in total rim sleep…..WTF, you ain’t that Got Damn sleepy! I say with a stern voice…”Wake the fuck up and I slap her on the ass (again, that’s what I said and did in my mind..LMAO). To my credit, I don't push, but my dick is pissed and cursing me out….”and you spent money for this shit….” Again, don't want a domestic style, "I got a head ache," discussion. I roll over and fall back to sleep. Then at say 4:30AM I wake to her between my legs proceeding with a BBBJ and one more fuck off before she leaves to catch her early morning flight back to the East coast.All and all, this was my first extended visit over say 2 hours. Hence, I would advise anyone who ventures down this path to PLAN for real life activities to happen. I know as the paying customer, you expect, or at least I did, that she better be at my dicks every beckon call. But the reality is, the lady is not a robot or a blow up doll
While I note in the account the points that pissed me off.
I completely enjoyed my first weekender!!!
The point of highlighting the points of "piss-tivity" is that when dealing with extended stays, human beings, personalities, etc.. Real life is always gonna poke at our fantasies and illusions. It's par for the course. Hell David Justice divorced Halle Berry....can you believe that shit!?!?!?!?!?! But David did say she was BSC.
If I need to check on my dog, or the daily brief call to my parents etc... However, an extended engagement is not a "fuck fest" specially if you like the lady as a person.. It is an opportunity to do fun things together, enjoy her company, and obviously enjoy private time accordingly giving her space so she can also feel at ease.
I am sure you are disappointed but maybe next time it is best to just book her for less time to get exactly what you want without feeling this way...
....Like I said, I highlighted the negatives of the weekender ONLY to illustrate we must keep our expectations in check. Hence, that's why I note the "fuck fest" thinking was a fantasy that was not going to be fulfilled as the ladies are not robots or blow up dolls. Nor are the clients. Soooo, you gotta fill the other time and space enjoying other things.
My first weekender partner and I are still friends even though she has long retired and is married and, expecting her first child. I even sent a gift.
We had a wonderful time together. My telling of the story let you into the thoughts I had regarding what I perceived at the time as negatives. In the end, minor negatives as the weekend as a whole we/I enjoyed immensly.
In my experience in taking trips with providers, it would be best if you are close enough to be called friends and treat her like one. Otherwise, you would be asking her to work 24 hours a day. I don't know if you've been married but it's like taking a trip with your girlfriend or wife. You might get a better outcome if you let her decide on some of the activities.
Your post is too long for me to finish but I see the term "rim sleep". Do you mean REM sleep?
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A truly impressive post! I'm not quite sure how to begin to respond. Let's start with these: (1) Yes, obviously, one wouldn't do a weekend outing with someone with whom you did not already feel completely comfortable and have seen several times before; this is a given. (2) What are realistic expectations? A 24/7 fuckfest or an opportunity for a "real" GFE.
I have a wonderful companion (BeautywithBrains, check TER reviews or link below) who I have been seeing on a regular basis for going on two years. We have developed a real rapport, and I have traveled with her on several multi-day trips. When we travel it is understood that we each have our "other lives" to attend to. I must monitor emails., etc. from my rather demanding job, and she most check emails, appointment forms, etc. related to her profession. This is life; although this is a simulation of a "real' GFE experience, we each have our real-world responsibilities to tend. OK, I get it. But the advantage to me of the multi-day format is that it completely takes the "fuck fest" pressures off the table. You know you are going to get laid multiple times, there is no need to force things, just go with the flow. I find this much more satisfying than being 90 minutes into a 2 hour date and realizing, despite how well the personal rapport and conversation has been going, that it is now time to "do the deed" before the clock runs out.
Multi-day excursions with someone you trust and enjoy should be more than just about "the deed." This is an opportunity for true joy and beauty in life; take advantage of it! Dinner, hikes, concerts, whatever. Life is short, sparks die in marriage, etc. etc. Does it make that much difference if you get off a mediocre 6 times over the weekend vs. 3 or 4 really great times? Go for the total package! If you've found the right lady, the rewards are more than worth it
From what I understand of your date, we had similar experience and I did not expect a 24hr fuckfest. Even if I wanted to, there is no way at my age. I was looking for a companion while being alone in a city. We had seen each other before.
I was not referencing her doing some personal business during the day. Part of our interruptions was her tweeting and replying to tweets while we were at a nice restaurant.
We did a dinner, broadway musical show,,couples massage, relaxing at the pool, room service lunch. So lots of non sexual things.
And the final interruption was her basically checking out at 5pm when I had her booked till 6pm as she had another appointment later that evening. I felt that was not classy. She just went to the bathroom, started a shower and got her make-up on.
"Yes, the preparing for the next date on your time was inexcusable. And yes, I would mention it as a matter of fact in a review to alert others and to give her a heads up that it was not cool and disrespectful of you. "
So you only had SIX "fuckfests" (romantic) in the day and a half she was there? Sheesh what's her problem?
Oh but you did enjoy yourself and stay in touch with her…but felt it was worth putting in a review/hurting her business?
So you like her body but were annoyed she had to go to the gym? Mad she tended to emails, but made business calls yourself on the balcony?
Perplexing…
The point is "beware an actual human woman will show up so adjust your fantasy because she is not a blow up doll?"
Well I guess that's a nice thing to inform other men of. Naively I assumed that was common sense. I suggest making sure you enjoy the ladies personality as much if not more than the sex so you're not going through the motions while waiting on the next "fuckfest".
Was the cuddling good? Do you love the sound of her laugh? Did you guys laugh at all or was it all about PDA? Did you hold her hand? Did you make her cum? Wake her up by going down? Or did you just pay, and was that the extent of your effort? Maybe just chain the lady to the bed next time and bypass that pesky thing called personality.
BTW David Justice beat Halle Berry so badly she's still deaf in one ear, but of course…(not surprised after your post) she's BSC.
I check your intention, but I raise you your delivery.
Reading his post that thought crossed my mind. 6 times aint enough
sounds slightly possessive to me (well, more than slightly actually).
Also, so she took a little nap during the concert, what's the BFD? This got the OP all pissy??
I don't have time to address allll the inaccuracies of your response so just a few examples:
- Your opening quote was my response to the OP in the originating thread regarding overnights. Hence, your note of six fuck fest in 1 1/2 days does not apply to the quote.
- your observation of her and I tending our real lives via emails, phone calls and txting is inaccurate as I noted it was necessary and beneficial to the weekender. Perplexing that you "read" something totally different into that.
- David Justice DID NOT beat the hearing out of her. It's rumored that that was Wesley Snipes. But it's a fact that it WAS NOT David Justice.
Overall, per your response, reading comprehension and fact checking is a lost skill
because her business is that of a provider, you are going to have to realize that she needs time to manage her business.
If you want the complete fantasy of her being focused just on you, there is a definite point of diminishing returns to length of visit and in many cases to frequency of visit as well -
Had not done long appt. in 3 yrs. I remembered why I dont like it.
She wanted to talk, go for a walk, grab a bite, etc.
Never again.