MOST reputable clients bring straight cash to the appointment. They don't put it in any envelope. Are you kidding?  

Money being in an envelope really makes you safe? Then, SCREW IT!!!!!!!

No more money in the envelope.

Also, AGAIN -----

count the money BEFORE each session.

Not doing it is akin to not wearing a seat belt and getting in a car with a drunkard... and you just hope he doesn't crash the car. Am I right?  RIGHT!

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You think 'count the money first' idea hasn't been considered by those who get ripped off?  Get out of your own perspective and look at it more from theirs.

A guy coming in intending to rip her off is going to have his plan.  Part of that plan might include not dropping the envelope until AFTER the session.  Day 1 of your condescending Escort 101 class is 'don't talk about the money.'  By not putting the money down first, he puts her in an uncomfortable position to have to ask for it.  She then has the choice of a) take the chance the guy is going to rip her off, or b) take the chance of getting busted.

If she's screened, either of these risks are mitigated somewhat.  But guys can go rogue and decide to trade in their reputation for a few rip-offs, or get flipped by the police, or get impersonated by the police.

Personally, given the option of being ripped off or busted, I'd choose getting ripped off.  

Secondly, some providers make the decision to not count the money deliberately.  The best ones really try to make the experience personal and immersive.  Counting the money in front of the client can break that immersion.  These women accept the chance of getting ripped off to provide an experience that will make the client want to come back.  The benefit of highly pleased clients is greater than the money lost to the rare rip off.  This doesn't mean that they can't get pissed when someone does rip them off, especially when they did their best to make his time with her as pleasurable as possible.

So if you don't like rip-off threads, skip them.  And quit being condescending and trying to tell these women how to do a hard job you have never had to do.

When Hobbyist stop counting the cash when it pops out of the ATM or handed to them by a teller they can start being insulted when a lady that does not know them counts the $$ in the envelope.

I have twice made mistakes with the envelope. I shorted a fave in Dallas because I misread her 2 hr rate. She contacted me after our session and she was home.  It was no prob in that she knew me well enough to realize it was an honest mistake and I had her booked for another session before I left town. It was easy to reimburse what I had shorted her.

Another time I got an email from a local fave a couple hours after our session.  She thanked me for the generous $100.00 tip she found in the envelope.  F ME....sorry, STP doesn't give $100.00 tips. I miscounted when placing the money.

yes....there are definite rip offs out there. But sometimes honest mistakes are made.

Count the money!

....and it gives me a chance to include a card with a personalized message of appreciation for including me in her world.  I have come to like this as part of the "process" of having a date.  It is hard to see myself breaking from that now that I have started doing so.

But again, I cannot emphasize enough that I have no problem with that envelope being checked either discretely or not before the clothes come off and the festivities begin.

First, the whole envelope discussion is joke!  I've been doing this a LOOONGG Time and have put my fee in an envelope ONLY ONCE.  And the ONLY reason I did it then cause it was $3,000 and I needed a means to keep it all together.  And yes the fee was for a very extended stay :).   For ALL my other appointements I never put the fee in an envelope and NEVER did the lady, during or after the session, say "....I will not see you anymore since you didn't put the money in an envelope..."  ROFLMAO.

As for the Client RIP Off threads.  I feel for the provider when it happens but to be honest; despite screening, references, etc, etc, etc, NCNS and Rip-Offs is a risk of doing business.  Hence, I get annoyed by the sometimes holier-than-thou attitudes that come across in the posts that makes it appears that the provider is above it happening to them.

I've been the victim of scam/rip-off girls One and Half Xs.  The half time was when I snatched the money back from her when I realized she was a scammer and kicked her ass outta my room.  However, I chalk it all off as a risk of the hobby.  In addition, being scammed 1 and 1/2 times is not a bad return after 12+ years of hobby participation.

What's worst than being ripped off is the shitty service I've received over the years by some providers.  Hell, with some of these experiences I would have rather been ripped-off than pay for the shitty service.  The rip-off woulda been better.  ROFLMAO