I originally posted a "Preliminary Report" of last Tuesday's party in this location.  My intent was to give an entertaining "feel" and "flavor" of what parties like this are like and about.  All of the responding posts are to that initial post.  

 As you can see, the initial responding posts seemed to indicate that I had accomplished my objective.  However, a series of posts were presented which asserted that the "report" was actually a graphic "review" and was not only of the providers present, but a couple of the hobbyists as well (one of whom was identified by handle and the other by a first name).  If one checks the rules for the discussion boards, posts are not supposed to be of a review nature since one can read them in their entirity without VIP access.  Hence, some could find the rather graphic content objectionable.  The hobbyists in question also objected to being identified in the post, along with some of their "activities".  In such matters, I usually use the "test": "would I have minded if the tables had been turned?".  Well, actually not since I am very open about myself, and don't really mind if others choose to be in a non-malicious fashion.  Nonetheless, I concurred that the report was actually a review of sorts.  Also, I acknowledged that each individual's sensibilities should be respected.  Hence, I apologized where I felt it was appropriate.  However, the TER software did not allow me to do any editing since the 24 hour limit had long elapsed.

 After I was "called to task" on the board, there were some posts which offered their support.  I received many pm's in the backchannel as well.  I wish to say here that NOT a SINGLE one of them was negative, in any way.  Virtually all were supportive of me, personally.  About 30% of them were also supportive of what I had originally tried to do and how I tried to do it.  The majority, however, agreed that one or more mistakes had been made, but that everyone has made mistakes (themselves included).  One pm asked if I would consider an edit of the original post.  When I answered that the software wouldn't LET me, the sender replied that perhaps I should have the moderator assist in an editing effort so that no more people could read the original graphic content.  Sleeping on that, I pm'd the moderator who agreed that such a revision might be a good idea, even though over 650 people have all ready read the original post.  Hence, this revision.


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Sounds like you had a great time -- which is exactly why we got these things going.  Once everyone is 'comfortable' it is quite a blast.

Yeah, how can I get in on this event?  I would love to join in on the fun.

Email me if interested, we had a couple cancellations.

I 'm still pretty pissed that she no-showed and hasn't had the guts to contact me to apologize. I think yesterday's party had more guys only interested in one on one time so I think that had alot to do with the energy level, but missing a girl definitely had something to do with it as well.  We DEFINITELY have 5 for tomorrow, thank GOD!~

Sheesh jeep, that's gotta be a FIRST!  Besides, I all ready did the "dirty work" FOR you!  And THIS is the THANKS I get!  Well I may be getting older, but my memory is still very SHARP.  Of course there are SOME benefits to your silence.  At least you are not "giving up the goods" wrt what Lissa was doing TO me!

 So, I'll have to wait to find out what most of the gang experienced in the second two hours.  Those closed doors that I was behind concealed things in BOTH directions.  The game plan was that two of the three rooms would be semi-private.  When one of the providers "no-showed", that relegated only ONE of the rooms to be semi-private.  Once I left THAT one, I had to go take on the "SITH" one at a time, all by myself (not that I really minded the experiences--you realize).

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Hmm, Lindsay.  And just what is IT that you agree TO?  If one only read the message subject titles, they would conclude that I am now on your "shit list" for giving up many of the "lurid goods".  However, when one reads the messages they can readily see that you agree about the AWOL individual.  But then again, I suppose it could be BOTH!  Well hey, if you don't want the juicy press, I can always shaddup....~~/

Hey Guys.
 do you all know each other, or did you meet there?
Z

In a way, these parties always seem to work out.

In this case, I am glad I was snowed out and couldnt make it.

It sounds like everyone had a good time.

However,the news report on the party is really a turn off.

I hope the guys will tend to keep the graphics to their reviews and not their posts.

Which brings up another interesting question:

How do you do a review on this kind of gathering?

Or maybe a little discretion is on the order here.

I am really not too keen in having every one know about my whereabouts or goings on

TR

Well put, jeep.  The perfect and correct literal answer.

At least you were only referred to by handle.  Your partner in crime was referred to by first name.

Not that he did anything he was ashamed of either...

Just emailed Linday about getting some info about the party.  Really would love to join all of you for a bit of fun time.  God I hope Trinity and Sharon will be there.  Wish me luck.

As I now understand it, unlike reviews which require VIP membership to read "the juicy details", posts apparently do NOT.  Although I doubt that this reached any "family audiences", I suppose that one never really knows, on the net.  This may unfortunately have placed RCPro in a very tough position which was not of his making, or deserving.  It is possible that he may be forced to remove this whole thread, as well as to reprimand me.  RCP, for potentially placing you in this most awkward position, I am sorry, and I sincerely apologize.

 TR, you raise another valid point, which I was wrestling with.  How does one "review" a party?  With the first party, jeep set the example of one method, which was to try to do it conventionally IN A REVIEW, where at least some limitation DOES exist with regard to potential readers.  He also tried to limit his review to the providers, and not include particulars regarding the participants.  Although I feel that such limitation may not portray an actual representation of the party or its true "flavor", at least it may be closer to the prudent choice.  You also suggested something to the effect of: If in doubt, leave it OUT.  Probably also very good advice for us all, even if it does "tie our hands behind our backs".  Unfortunately in my enthusiasm and desire to entertain, I apparently made the mistake of missing what should have been regarded as "doubts".  You have made it apparent that I offended you and/or your sensibilities.  I can assure you that was NOT my desire.  I am truly sorry for that, and I apologize.  This apology is not only for you, but for ANYONE and EVERYONE who has similar feelings and may have been hurt.  Clearly many DID enjoy this thread, but that is NO excuse.  Perhaps there is NO way to properly review a party, as such.  A harsh lesson for us all, to be applied to how to handle future parties.

 A particular mention to the gals involved, particularly Lissa and Jordan.  Although I jokingly said otherwise, you ARE truly ladies of distinction, with unique and rare talents.  Jordan, you were a very "good sport" about it.  You, of all people realize that I never meant to hurt you.  I have nothing but the upmost regard and admiration for you (as I am sure you are aware).  The same applies to Lissa.  Although neither of you gals have said so, I fear that I may have offended you (in one or more ways) as WELL.  If so, I truly regret it, and I apologize.  

 For jeop, I kind of singled you out (again jokingly), since we had been long standing "posting buddies", even though we never had really met until yesterday.  From your post, it is quite apparent that I offended you (although your remarks correctly indicated that was NOT my intent).  I apologize to you as well.  

 There are several ironies here.  First, I normally DO go much further than the extra mile to "touch all the bases" in the backchannel, before posting anything like this.  There was another thread which I thought about exploring, but found out the better of, as a result of my prior contact with Lindsay.  I guess it is too bad I didn't do that with THIS thread as well.  Second, I just recently received some considerable praise (including from jeep himself) concerning my extensive prior posting tact and talents.  I guess I just "couldn't stand prosperity", for I clearly blew it here, BIG TIME.  Apparently I don't make many mistakes, but when I do they are REAL DOOSIES.  Third, in yet another thread, Yasmine Greek suggested that I might be in need of a break, from all of this.  Clearly, I should have listened to her.  Fourth, in the backchannel, many have suggested to me that posting and reviewing do present many challenges and potential risks.  They too were also suggesting that I "give it a rest", for a while, if not indefinitely.  Too late apparently, I have discovered just how accurate their assessments were.  Fifth, I even suggested that I would be either willingly or unwillingly be taking a hiatus from all of this.  Clearly, I didn't even listen to MYSELF, in this matter.  The lesson is that just like hobbying itself, posting and reviewing provide a "high" and can be an "addiction" of their own.  Sometimes "entertainers" start taking themselves too seriously, when the real truth is that perhaps they should have quit while they were on top and ahead.

 Those who really know me realize that there is truly not a "malicious bone in my body".  My intent was actually to (in an offbeat way) PRAISE all the folks who I originally mentioned, drum up support for Lindsay's parties (which she has gone to such great lengths to create and foster), and to entertain.  Unfortunately, "The road to hell is paved with good intentions".  It greatly saddens me that I have apparently hurt so many innocent victims.  Now, I must "learn from experience" and eat huge portions of the very foul tasting "humble pie".  I believe there are many good lessons in here, for us all.  I hope that my many good compadres can learn from these lessons.  I assure you all that I wouldn't wish this situation (which I have placed myself in) on my worst enemy.

Ponzone, please don't feel bad, just reading your posts one can tell of the kind of guy you are - one who considers those on these boards comrades.  It's a shame that Jeop felt the need to say this to you on the board and make you feel bad.  He should have done it privately if he feels so strongly about privacy.  Personally I think he needs to get over himself in the worst way; in this instance anyway.

Jeep, I now know THAT.  As I said in my reply to TR, a bit too late, unfortunately.  In THAT reply, I apologized to everyone adversely affected, including YOU.  I re-state that apology here.

 With regard to my "omission" of certain particular things, that was truly an oversight on my part.  I was not intentionally engaging in a "double standard".  Certainly you know that I very often poke fun at myself.  Hey, if it gets a laugh, go with it!  Too late after placing the original post, I discovered my "oversight".  Oddly enough, I was expecting YOU to pick up on it, and have some fun at MY expense.  After all, you had the "birds eye view" of that sordid activity.  I would even state it myself here now.  However, doing so would clearly show that I hadn't "learned my lesson".  Fortunately, THAT is NOT the case.  Clearly, you refused to "stoop to my level" even though I originally did not assess how low that level was, nor intend to be at that level.  Although I stated so elsewhere, I repeat it here: that is NO excuse for what I did, and it certainly does not mitigate it.

 As for your feeling "put off", I am again sorry for creating that state of affairs.  Clearly, I have placed our former good relationship, if it was not a "friendship" of sorts, at some great risk.  I truly regret doing that for the sake of trying to garner a few stupid "laughs" and foolishly thinking that this was helping.  Had I realized that (as well as many other things) beforehand, this entire thread would not even exist.  Perhaps it should remain however, as a series of lessons to us ALL.

 As I have stated (or implied) elsewhere, I apparently have risked the friendship of several other individuals (who have been near and dear to me) as well.  Losing some (or worse all) of these friendships would be the worst kind of punishment, for me.  I hope that all who were adversely affected (to whom I have apologized in my reply to TR) can somehow find it in their substance to forgive me.

 Finally, you too jeep have touched on the subject of how to "review" parties.  As you say, one probably workable way is to divide them into individual "sessions", and handle it in various reviews, as you have in the past.  However, more and more I am coming to the conclusion that there may be NO positive or appropriate way to try to review the true nature and flavor of a party, particularly in any detail (as we are used to in our other TER reviews).  That may be yet another compelling lesson to be taken from all of this.  Perhaps the BIGGEST lesson.

...so when are we gonna get the photos!!  =
And I definately dont think 'kiss and tell' is appropriate - its a piss poor substitue for live video!!!

Keep rock'n guys, if I get lucky one day I just may get to join you!  
 -- DH

Well DH, whether it's written accounts, audio, or video, they're all piss poor substitutes to actually being there right in the big middle of all that action!  I hope that I will be able to participate in an "encore performance", but it remains to be seen whether that will happen.

RIGHT ON, brother jeep!  Thanks for your many kind words while sticking true to your principles and feelings.  That's the mark of a truly honest and caring man.  Sometimes "love" has to be TOUGH.  I know I am now the better for it; and I know that was among your intentions.  So I'm a YENTA huh?  Yeah, I know EXACTLY what that means.  

 We DID have one helluva' good time though, didn't WE jeep?  

 Many thanks to ALL of you awesome ladies.  I hope that you will DARE to invite me back!  If so, I will not disappoint, nor tell "State Secrets" again.  At least not "out here"...  As jeep said, you are "fair game" in the reviews (as long as we all follow the rules)...

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Message boards like this one tend to form communities of people who regularly post to them.  This is the first week I've been checking out this forum, but I'm a regular on several others.   Under normal circumstances, you would congratulate a friend (real or virtual) when they have attained an accomplishment.  This is completely appropriate.  

However in this hobby, we are constrained by the need for keeping a certain degree of privacy.   Its easy to see how this can be a fragile balance at times.  Obviously it was a honest mistake and was not done with malice.

However, please don't dump on brother jeopcon.  He may have been "sucked down to my level" just a little bit by posting a reply out here, however I certainly know how easy it is for that to happen.  After all, I was guilty of it FIRST.  We all have to constantly keep track of exactly where we are placing our written words, why, and what harm they may cause.  In jeep's case, he was well within his rights to feel "hurt" and somewhat offended, and I appreciate his honesty to have said so, and stood up for his principles.  Few of us have had to "walk a mile in his shoes" in a case like this.

So that was YOU, hohm!  Well, sorry.  As I have said to others, I never meant any harm by it.

 BTW, I didn't do ANYTHING I was ashamed of, either.  At least NOT at the Party.  Out here on the board?  Well, that is obviously another matter.  However in following the posting, I believe we are ALL the better for it.  At least I hope so.