You have got to be freakin' kidding me.

although I wouldn't attend either event ...

have you seen the amount of information requested on their screening page?  seems a bit excessive....and i don't think M&Gs request that amount of info, although admittedly i haven't attended a M&G or been screened or "applied" to attend a M&G

heinous

I would love to attend, but the excessive info request rules me out.

I don't look good in braclets

not to mention the Fantasy screening process...

i would never feel comfortable giving such info to agency or indies as it might intrude in to my personal and professional life.home adress and number info is bit too much for my comfort zone.i have been hobbying for 8 years,and i have used many agency and indies.i have never given such private info,nor i ever will.

events like these are marketed as 'happy hour' and such, while we all know there are great many risks involved.

Providers usually go to these M&G places because they think they can get a few new customers, reality is, that it makes little or no difference in their client list

Guys who go to these events are split into two groups

Group 1: the organizers of such events and old timers so to say. they go there to get a free 'something" from the newer girls who don't know their scam

Group 2: are new guys who go there thinking they are in a swinger party place but soon figure out it is P&P under the covers.

The information requirements also rule me out. I understand their desire to screen, but the method used is too invasive for my tastes. It goes far beyond making sure I am a respectful, safe and rule-abiding hobbyist. References show those attributes more than the personal information. The personal info only has use to them in a punitive manner, rather than to keep everyone safe. And if they screen then destroy the records, which of course I'm skeptical about, then the data would have little use anyway.

I don't wish them any ill, but the methodology doesn't make any sense to me, nor does it give me any comfort in using their services.

I would never attend a M&G because I don't want to run into somebody I know and be found out that I "hobby".  I cannot think of a good reason why I would want to meet other hobbyists.  If I want news and information, TER is already a good source.
I certainly do not need to meet providers in a forum such as a M&G where I would be competing for their attention amidst all the other guys and gals.
Why would I want to meet other hobbyists?

First of all, you are confusing the various types of hobby-related events -- happy hours, M&Gs, escort socials, etc.

Perhaps, when you were a newbie, you thought an M&G was a swinger party and got disappointed. Then after a few times, you tried to get some free pussy and got even more disappointed. Most of us have a more realistic expectation.

Just to hang out...Have few beers...Have some good food...Crack a joke or two... For the same reason that people hang out. I can understand your anxiety over running into someone you know from work or church - especially if you are in public arena

As far as meeting providers goes, its a great forum to meet someone outside of the hotel room. For me, personality is as important as looks. Meeting a provider at M&G gives you an idea if you will enjoy a session with the provider or not.

Sure, I can give you reasons why you would want to meet other hobbyists:

Compare notes in person, rather than by typing pages of e-mails.
Get the scoop on UTR ladies.
Find ladies making unpublicized visits.
Get recommendations of who to see based on your preferences, instead of just TER search.

You say, "If I want news and information, TER is already a good source". That is true. But the boards are public, and lots of valuable information shouldn't be public and never makes it to the boards. Even the Reviewers Only board leaks live a sieve, so getting information in person from reputable guys can be very valuable.

You might have valid reasons not to go, and nobody is pressuring you to do so, but don't discount the  potential benefits out of ignorance.

Ren'man

I've been to a few of these kinds of things and there are ladies I've met who I never would have scheduled with had I not met them in person. So I know at least 4 ladies who got a new client out of it.

On the other side there are girls who I know I will never book because we didn't hit it off in person.

I never expected it to be a swinger party. Anyone who does is kidding themselves.

how the guys try to get a freebie out of it and convince the newer girls how good it is to be with them for reviews and all.

most of the established providers are familiar with the games of M&G and don't attend and if you happened to go to more than one (like I have), you will see that most of the girls who attend DO NOT repeat again!.

I've only attended one M&G, but it was extremely beneficial for me.  Met a gent who had similar tastes to mine.  He had a way of finding the most UTR ladies and letting me know about them.  Once I told them that I knew him, my screening was complete.  Never had a bad date with info from him.  

He's no longer with us, but he was a tremendous resource for me for years.  R.I.P. Scot

eagle

We exchange penis jokes and question each other's sexuality.

And I would add, you get to meet the ladies, in person, not just through a picture or a post and can talk with them for a few minutes.  To meet them is sooo much better of a way to determine who you will want to spend time with (and money on) then just TER search or ads.

some of us are pretty damn picky. TER and correspondence is insufficient information. a five minute personal face to face is worth much more.

i have significant research skills. the information on TER is only good for a 35% success rate on first meetings. on the other hand with a few minutes of face to face at a MnG i have a 100% success rate.

face to face is the only sure "chemistry test" for me.

I've often thought it would be nice to go somewhere where this hobby, this one major part of my life that I've never shared with anyone, is the accepted baseline.  The practical aspects mentioned throughout this thread are nice, but I've wondered what it would be like to be able to talk about these things we do.

I've been to FKK Clubs in Germany, and there's a bit of that atmosphere.  But there, the language barrier gets in the way for me.

I am a novice at this but I do not pretend or consider myself to be naive while I ask this question. It is not meant to be rhetorical.
My question is: How are these functions actually conducted? How do the men or women get to know each other? Is there are round robin type of thing? I have never been to one and would like to attend one. However, my concern is if it is indeed clickish or does a newbie feel like he would have to fight his way to get to speak to the girl of his choice - or does he have to bulldoze his way and introduce himself or....?? truly I would like to know the dynamics and protocol. Or is it simply a single's bar type of atmosphere? (Please refrain from "if you're a shy pussy then you need not attend" type of languaging or explanation.) Thanks, I appreciate your honest answers. Providers can comment too if you wish.

I would absolutely like to attend a M&G. However, I would never want to risk running into someone I know, even if they were married and worked for the same employer with all the same inherent personal risks. Fortunately, the same schedule that severely limits the times I can play, also prevents me from attending.

For me, I would absolutely enjoy the chance to chat with a few ladies I might not normally get to meet. Either to help me decide to make the extra effort for a visit. It would also be nice to be able to meet someone I have PMed/emailed over time, but never met.

I find that the ladies I really enjoy on the clock are on the ball, and a pleasure to talk to. I could easily spend time chatting over a drink with just about any of them.

These are all good reasons to attend a M&G.  But like you, I would never risk the chance of running into someone I know....or who knows me.  
So for me, that risk trumps all the good reasons to meet up with providers and hobbyists.
Oh well, too bad for me.

While I would not want that kind of screening info in the hands of an agency that may be talking to LE if they ever get busted, I can see the merit of seeing ladies in a social situation. I have been to several such type scenes, both in Germany and the middle east. More like a club type atmosphere, where you can get a drink and mingle with the ladies. Also being a picky type like Texcat, I actually prefer to talk with the lady first to see if we would click. I do not spend my money just to get off as quick as I can. I am not looking for love but attraction and affection.  My worst money spent was for females that just layed they disconnected from the event.

Only a newbie thinks that TER is the end all for information.

So you walk in to a bar with a bunch of hot woman / some okay looking and a large assortment of guys.  You see someone from your church hitting up Gigi.

What is the problem??

It is a nice way to meet new people and talk.

Plus the free BJs are fun too. Ha Ha..

You don't need to go to an M&G to try to get freebies.

For are many reasons why some girls who do not repeat again (note redundancy), one of which is that they're visitors and can't be in town every M&G. That said, most girls do repeat whenever they can. You just lost credible to the regular M&G attendees.

It's more like a cocktail party than a single bar. Many people know each other. If you are new, someone will approach and welcome you.

All I hear is "bitch bitch whine whine OMG I'm so paranoid".

We prefer to work with people with high standards so we have high stringent standards of our own. If you're not willing to meet them then tough. We don't care.

Looking back and searching not only TER but other forums as well, I've noticed that everyone constantly says "No one's going to give out that kind of information.", "You're going to get busted", etc.

Does the fact that we've been around for going on five years now say anything? Fantasy client screening as been around for at least ten and neither have had a single incident.

Five years of YOUR bitching hasn't made us change policy so, I'm not expecting to change your minds with one message. Again, if you don't want to do business our way then, we're simply not interested. You're not our type. It's that simple.