...I called up early this morning to setup my appointment for later this morning, only to find out I would be going to a private incall that was in an apartment kind of situation. Definitely a first for me. I certainly wasn't expecting that, but, as it turns out, it only freaked me out a little bit. The arrival, though a bit unnerving, really was in actuality, pretty cool and unremarkable. Not too many passers by, etc.
On the way out, I had to pass a few neighbors out front talking, so that was a bit uncomfortable. I just don't know, I may do it again, especially considering the extraordinary service. I'll have to mull it over.
It's really not an apartment / non-apartment kind of thing. There are so many variables. Hotels can be great or awful; same with private residences. It's difficult to get that kind of detailed information off the board (maybe it should be difficult to get that kind of detailed information off the board?).
Anyway, thanks to all for the public and private feedback.
It seems that some of the gents on the DC board are OK with appointments at an apartment, as reflected in some of the reviews. Doesn't this seem kinda high profile? Or am I just being ridiculously hyper-cautious? Thanks.
in terms of their screening, neighborhood relations, and contact protocols.
Knowing what I do of hotel security I am actually more confortable at a lady's private incall if I am comfortable with the way she operates and the layout of the place.
GTM,
Really appreciate your contributions to this board.
Honestly, I wasn't expecting that. Now you've rattled my whole belief system about the merits of using hotels for safety through dynamism. I thought change was good... Despite my typical discretion, I'm feeling the need to get smarter about hotel security.
I guess I do get the independent private incall thing, especially if the location is situated just so, but what would you say to an agency using a private incall? That is to say, a fixed location used by some number of providers and some even larger number of clients. That strikes me as having the potential to stand out a bit.
Please help me understand what one should be looking out for to be "comfortable (or uncomfortable) with the way she operates and the layout of the place"
Intriguing question. I thought an apt offers more privacy. Please help me understand how it is a higher profile than a hotel where you are seen by the doorman, front desk, security cameras....?
I regard the hotel environment as offering a certain level of anonymity and cover through an elevated 'noise' level and the benefit of dynamism - a service never operating out of the same place too long. This depends, of course, on the exact times, layout and circumstances, but I feel like hotels often allow you some opportunity to blend into the normal lobby fray and the comings and goings of lots of people.
There are other hotel factors that work against this advantage, such as the length of stay of the provider, the level of traffic the provider has, etc. I recently visited a provider only to find that her hotel door opened onto a vast, multi-level foyer, highly visible from many vantage points. Very uncomfortable. So I'm definitely not saying it's all good.
With an apartment, the neighbors are always the same. The level of traffic in and out of most residential apartments is on average, I'd say, fairly low and probably consistent. In a multi-provider, multi client agency scenario using an apartment, I would think the agency traffic would stand out like crazy to the neighbors. Other situations, like single family homes, upscale condos with very private entrances and extits, etc. might provide very comfortable cover.
Just to be clear, I really don't know what the hell I'm talking about. I'm quite new at this and just trying to leverage some sage advice from this great board. Thanks.
Entering a hotel in evening hours on a weekday I found no traffic in the lobby and felt quite noticed. I felt the staff knew I had not rented a room there. Got uncomfortable.
I agree that an agency with multiple providers sharing an apt in a residential complex would stand out and may be even draw complaints.
Having an apartment myself, I feel extremely comfortable in my situation. My place is located in the city, it is a massive high rise with plenty of street parking. I have never met my neighbors except to say an occasional hello! When they are coming home from work, I am leaving. Most of them are either students or work with the embassies, no one is terribly friendly and does their own thing. I have a balcony if I want to get fresh air so as to be low key. I buzz my clients in, no need to go get them, several entrances, etc. Pay my rent on time. My landlord loves me, I am the perfect tenent!
In a hotel, you are in someone else's enviorment, much easier to draw attention to yourself, Hotel staff, for the most part, know what is going on!
Just my 2cents worth!!!
I've often wondered about the "Hotel staff, for the most part, know what is going on!" thing. I tend to agree with you, which also, maybe unreasonably, sort of adds to my (false?) sense of security a little bit. I don't know this for a fact, but I expect that there are some unwritten rules of engagement between hotels and frequent clients (agencies and independents, although obviously identified differently), such that as long as a certain level of decorum and discretion is maintained, the hotel is content to get the regular business. Maybe I'm hallucinating; it's happened before.
I do think your apartment situation, as you've described it, is probably ideal - just you and your comparatively few clients. It's more the agency in an apartment thing I was wondering about.
As soon as you walk through the revolving door, pass the door men, pass the front desk and into the elevator, cover your face with the day's newspaper.
Something to be said about the voice of experience. Naturally, an experienced, careful provider will be sure not to get noticed (in the wrong way).
I'v been to providers' apartments and have been very comfortable with the set up. No anxiety here.
I should think with all the on-line property and address searches available, that the apartment-renting provideer would feel the anxiety.
Well said, Angelina. Be the perfect tenent and you will go unnoticed. I chose a corner apt in an end building. I also told apt management that I do Nutrition Consults from home and make sure I have my Mom and a variety of friends stop by so the occassional gentleman does not stand out. Low volume may be the key with entertainung a home.
What if you lived next to a condo/apt/townhouse with rotating inhabitants of pretty college age cuties visited by single middle age men day and night all appearing and leaving in about an hour.
I'd complain to the police and the police would have to investigate. It would not take a super sleuth to figure it all out.
My experience has been mixed. My comfort level depends upon the type of apartment. One of my favorites had an apartment in a large building with underground parking. I visited many times over a year and half without a problem. Earlier in my career I visited several ladies who used an condo apartment consisting of a number of buildings with 10-12 units per building with ground level parking lots. One of the girls was busted shortly after one of my visits. I think the difference was that the large buildiing gave anominity while the other had many "at home" residents who saw the comings and goings.
Yes, a large building with underground parking gives more privacy to both, the SP and the visitor. I'd definitely pick that over a hotel visit.
The potential for someone to notice a pattern that they do not like. For apartments, evenings are probably killer, for any kind of volume, but it also depends upon the neighbors. This is also the danger of apartments, as the neighbors change over time, and it's easy to get a nosy parker next door.
Hotels and apartments have issues, which can be managed. However, I think, from a client perspective, it's tough to know how the provider is handling the operational security aspects. And with a hotel, if things look bad it's easy to pack up and go.
...I called up early this morning to setup my appointment for later this morning, only to find out I would be going to a private incall that was in an apartment kind of situation. Definitely a first for me. I certainly wasn't expecting that, but, as it turns out, it only freaked me out a little bit. The arrival, though a bit unnerving, really was in actuality, pretty cool and unremarkable. Not too many passers by, etc.
On the way out, I had to pass a few neighbors out front talking, so that was a bit uncomfortable. I just don't know, I may do it again, especially considering the extraordinary service. I'll have to mull it over.
It's really not an apartment / non-apartment kind of thing. There are so many variables. Hotels can be great or awful; same with private residences. It's difficult to get that kind of detailed information off the board (maybe it should be difficult to get that kind of detailed information off the board?).
Anyway, thanks to all for the public and private feedback.
. . . it changes every 6 months and no late appointments. By the time the neighbors get suspicious, she's already gone.
Having done dates in both hotels and apartments the level of discretion depends on the judgement used by the escort and the hobbiest. If I come to the door while a neighbor/guest is passing by I'll have exposed us both. If the escort has me waiting in the lobby or parking lot (which has happened a couple of times) then there is risk of exposure.
Also it depends on where the incall site is located (city vs county). In the county, the police pursue incall prostitution to a greater degree than in the city. Also in the city there is a greater degree of anonymity and fewer "busy bodies".
Agencies would have a greater challenge in maintaining discretion be it a hotel or apartment. Independent escorts would probably be better off working out of an apartments (better control of the environment and costs) as long as she did a good job at managing the arrival of her clients.
I have been to see a provider at a hotel where all the room doors were exposed to a vast multiroom foyer. Actually, the hotel bar and restaurant were located in that foyer. Totally not cool. I also remember a certain agency that operated out of apartments and had some serious secret agent procedures to gain entry to the apartment. I think as long as the layout of either the hotel or the apartment building allowsfor discretion and the provider exercises discretion it doesn't really matter.
Don't kid yourself, hotel staff is fully aware of what goes on in their hotel. Have a son that worked as a bellman. According to him, every so often a hot woman would slip a card with a name and number, wrapped in a $20, into his pocket and given the suggestion that if he encountered a guy looking for some fun/action, give her a call. In general, hotel staff is interested in filling rooms and your comfort. They could not care less about what you do during your stay...
It can be good or bad. but I think it has its advantages. Its more private, you don't have to walk through a hotel lobby. There may not be a camera on you.
It varies so much on the location. I have been to only a couple apartments where I felt exposed to neighbors eyes. Most providers have thought the process through and will give you hints on how to approach and enter their unit.
With hotels I always ask to find out which way I turn to find stairs/elv. and just walk in like I know where I am going.