So, I was verified and all to see this agency girl in the afternoon, but I got banned because I refuse to bring my Driver License to an appointment. WTF? I was not informed of this until this morning. Should I name and mock this agency? what are pros and cons to doing this?

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If you have more than x reviews you can join the reviewers board. You'll be free to speak your mind there, but if you want to benefit everyone do it here but in a respectful way.

right?

this!!!!

before you go to an agency girl, ask if seeing her is worth having your info in the public square should the agency get busted

if the answer is "no", move on!!

I won't provide my REAL name...since I am a National Medal of Science Winner, and I can easily be googled. My career is so much more important than one freaking lay. No pussy, except maybe that of Kate Middleton is worth the risk, lol.

Anyways, I gave them references, P411 and TER ID with MANY okay's. Isn't that enough? Also, they suddenly notified me about it this morning, when they had no mention of it previously. A lot of people here take the metro, and do not necessarily carry their DL with them...

If you are the AGENCY OWNER or booker, you know you made a mistake.I expect an apology.

Personally, I think the driver's license requirement is goofy.  Good fake driver's licenses are virtually indistinguishable from the real thing; even TSA can't tell the difference with their loupes and black lights, so it's a bit silly.  But, it is really up to the provider or agency whether or not they require this as a matter of security policy, and it's their right to establish their own policies.  There are agencies I will never use and providers I will never see because they are steadfast in their ID policy, and I am steadfast in my policy to never carry ID into an appointment.  Not a problem.  There are so many other great providers and agencies who do not have this requirement that it doesn't matter.

If that's true about having been blindsided by this requirement at the appointment, I agree, this is annoying.  Agencies and providers who insist on ID should publish that requirement in their literature.  I think most do, but I've been surprised once or twice by this myself, and it's always a pain in the ass.  I've taken to clearing up the ID question in advance of the appointment so that there are no surprises.  I just say I don't bring ID and that's either OK or it's not.  Either way, we both know up front and no one gets inconvenienced.  I think being forthright with the agency/provider about your personal policy to not bring ID is equivalent to an expectation that the agency/provider inform you of their ID requirements.

Were you actually 'banned', as you put it, or was the appointment just off since you were unwilling to bring ID?  In other words, if you were willing to bring ID, would you not be banned?

Also, IMHO, 'mocking' an agency won't win you any friends in the community.  Generally, blasting anybody on this forum is not worth it, although it seems to be a popular pastime.  If the agency doesn't advertise their ID requirement, maybe you could recommend to them that they post this requirement clearly on their website to eliminate any future confusion and inconvenience.  Or maybe you could talk them into changing their policy...

Good luck with that!

I completely understand your need for discretion and privacy.

However, all of your TER reviews and P411 Okays mean nothing if there is no way to verify that you are the person who has them. In fact, P411 is known for having client profiles that are "shared".

I can not speak for agencies seeing as I have never owned or worked for one, but I think it's pretty safe to assume that providers are not googling clients after the fact. After you've paid your rate and the session is over, that's it. For me, I simply glance at the ID to make sure that you are really the "John Smith" that has 3 okays and 17 reviews.

And it truly boggles my mind why any man in his right mind would share his access to accounts facilitating illegal activities with other people.

It's one of those "you can't fix stupid" situations.

Lina

the decide what their screening process is.  If they want to see a lisense, fine, BUT THEY SHOULD MAKE THAT CLEAR.  Then you can go or not go.  Waiting until you get there seems poor customer relations.  But if they do tell you, that is their right.

As to being banned, given you know their screening and it is not acceptable to you, why would you want use that agency again?  It doesn't seem like being banned is really a big thing in this case.

No offense, but the fact that you are asking this question and doing so under an alias means you are not going to name the agency.  And if you can't think of the "cons" to badmouthing an agency that you have provided some screening information to, you're not really trying too hard.

Lesson learned, move on, plenty of fish in the sea, etc.

Is to stick with independents and avoid agencies at all costs. There are way too many cases of them not handing personal information properly.

that person.

All I care is that a persona is a gentleman, safe to see and did his homework prior to contacting me.

That said, i understand WHY some people ask for DLs.  Way too many "geniuses" share accounts.

Lina

The TER WhiteList doesn't have a person's name, just a handle, so why show a real ID to link to the handle?

You wrote "I think it's pretty safe to assume that providers are not googling clients after the fact" !!!!!!!!

Just about as safe as barebacking.  Why should a client assume that a provider would have no interest in googling said client, especially if googling that client results in finding a fat juicy public reputation to protect, thus presenting the possibility of contacting someone who could be...um...induced to make a special donation?

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that an ID is required.

Informing on the "day of" seems kinda late.  

Banning seems unnecessary tho.



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Did you fill out a contact form? I'm guessing yes.

Did you provide them your real name? I'm guessing no.

I have been verified by several agencies who upon approval I'm told of the need to show ID when I arrive so they know it is me who is there to visit and not some friend of mine or LE.

You are pissed off because the girl you wanted to see is really hot I'm sure and your hopes were shattered this morning. Fortunately you didn't show up and find out at the door because once I forgot to bring my ID and was told to turn around and not come back.

It's your choice to hide your identity just as it is there choice to ask you to prove it is you when they open the door.

ElleJ is 100% correct about P411 having issues where guys are sharing their account information or it's been stolen.

So if you lied to them when providing your information it is certainly understandable why they would ban you from seeing any of their girls. But I doubt they put your information on a DNS website or board.

But OK if it makes you feel better go ahead and let everyone know which agency it is so they don't go through the trouble of lying to an agency and getting banned.

I think that's a terrible assumption to make about providers... That we are all looking to find a reason to blackmail someone.

I want the amount for my time when, and only when, you are interested in seeing me. I have not met a single provider who digs around for a "fat juicy reputation" after a session. We're usually too busy booking our next appoint.  And the truth is, not many clients have bug fat juicy reputations anyway. They may be as successful, sure, but they are average men with decent jobs who want to see ladies every once in a while.

The reality is, if the only information I can have about you is an anonymous handle that you've had time to create, could be flipped, o could be shared with someone else, I may as well be seeing strangers off the street.

posted on backpage. They gave their real names with their TER handles , and that was NO-NO

Please forgive me for being slow on this but...is it bad now to be a member of Date Check?

I never said that ALL PROVIDERS are looking to rip someone off.  My experience has been that almost all providers are basically good people....almost.

Like any profession you find the occasional bad apple.  I have come across 2 rip offs in my time.  And BP is full of many more, which is why due diligence is important.  But all you need is one unscrupulous person to end up in a bad situation, so it is best never to expose your self by giving information that connects you to your real identity.  And that goes both ways.  One provider told me of a bad scene where a client gone rogue tracked her down to find her real identity, then sent copies of her ad to her family.

So yes, every encounter is going to require some measure of trust (is the hobbyist/provider who he/she says they are?), backed by some solid research.  But sharing info that could lead back to the "real world" is just not worth it.

Heaven forbid you die or suffer a stroke and need medical assistance.

And fake ID's as good as you say don't come free, and are by no means cheap.

There too heaven forbid you die, need medical assistance, or are only unfortunate to be questioned by LE and they find your fake ID. It's going to be difficult enough trying to talk you way out of trouble but far worse if they find a really good fake ID.

Everyday we take chances spin the wheel if fortune when playing this game in life. It's only by luck and some knowledge if the game we aren't caught. So do your best lie all you want just be prepared to suffer the losses the day your policy's bite you in the ass. I'm sure your policy isn't to lie to LE like your so proud to do to the ladies is it?

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...I don't see anything wrong with telling people which agency had this requirement.   But you seem to imply that the agency's actions are really bad.  Personally, I don't blame 'em for asking for ID, although I am a bit surprised that a provider actually checked yours...that, to my great surprise, has not happened to me yet.

First of all, let's clear up the rationale for the ID requirement from providers and agencies.  It has nothing to do with the client's safety, well being, or potential interactions with LE.  It has to do with the provider or agency verifying who the client is.  I wasn't recommending fake ID.  I don't have one or use one.  You totally missed my point, genius.  I was bringing attention to the absolute uselessness of ID as a verification tool for providers and agencies since determining the authenticity of an ID is uncertain at best.  

Dropping dead without an ID is my problem, not anyone else's.  If I keel over on a provider's bed, she has the same fucking problem whether I'm identifiable or not.

Yes, we're all taking chances doing this.  But each one of us is entitled to choose which chances we are willing to take.  I won't criticize your choices; you don't have to criticize mine.  In my post I completely support agencies' and providers' policies to require ID if that's what they want to do.  I simply choose to not abide by that policy, which turns out to not be a problem for me as well as many, many other clients, providers and agencies.  From my experience, the ID requirement seems to be a less prevalent policy.

It sounds as though your criticism naturally extends to those agencies and providers who do not require ID since their policy choices are inconsistent with how you think this all should work.

I take no particular pride, as you put it, in concealing details of my identity, and I'm as straight up, considerate and caring of the ladies I meet as anyone could expect.  Pride in deception has nothing to do with this subject.  But withholding detailed identity information is exactly what the ladies I meet do, and what I expect they should do.  I never ask them for ID and I never will because I believe it is neither reasonable nor useful in verifying who they are.  And I've never criticized them or their agencies for this policy.

Why the alias for your post, your knightliness?  Are you hiding something?  Like your board identity?  Seems kind of ironic given your position that I should produce identity information.  Why don't you show us your ID...



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I wouldn't mind showing my ID.  But I do mind filling out a web form where I state my real name.  And given that I won't ever do the latter I'm not sure what the point is of asking me for the former.  If you're trying to associate my real name with my TER handle that's clearly pointless anyway.