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Should a provider re-arrange her whole schedule because a client is late?
tonycif 2 Reviews 1129 reads
posted
1 / 28

Okay my ATF Micah Callahan asked me a question and I told her I would post it on a board so she could see more than just my opinion. She asked if a client is more than a few minutes late should she give up her free time in between appointments (to eat exc.)to still give them an entire hour or should she just have them reschedule or take what is left of what they booked for. This all came about due to a recent review she seemed slightly irritated with. I am kind of on her side on this one but that is just me. She said when you book a time in advanced you should take in account possible traffic or other things and make arrangements to be there close to the time you scheduled. She said when someone is more then 10 to 15 minutes late  and still insist on an hour she feels like they do not respect her time or the space she tries to create for herself in between appointments. ( She also said aside from what this review said it is not about volume but consideration for the provider and her time.)any opinions?

!!!!! 707 reads
posted
2 / 28
Tall6969 45 Reviews 587 reads
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3 / 28
Sofia White See my TER Reviews 707 reads
posted
4 / 28

There has to be a balance between the importance placed on her personal time and theirs as well as consideration for the obstacles the gentlemen jump through to get to an appointment in a busy area such as Tysons or DC. I recommend always spacing the meetings with the cushion as if they were 20 minutes late meaning 20 minutes over. The 'time left on the clock' standard makes sense with a high volume agency but not with an independent that wishes to maintain repeat clientele so I would simply space the schedule well enough for all parties to be happy and comfy in a worst case scenario.  Personally, an accommodating schedule is one thing I offer as it is generally hours between meetings so as to remove any stress or pressure on either end in the unlikely event of timing being off. Gentlemen certainly appreciate the gesture. This does not mean that one can always be extremely late, simply that they should try their best but won't be made to feel uncomfortable or rushed in the event their best doesn't get them there on time. They are usually kind enough to keep my updated on their status and so if need be, I can shift that snack I had planned or personal phonecall/errand for afterwards to before the meeting while they are still en route and there's no issue. Best of luck to her. These things have a way of sorting themselves out

earthshined 500 reads
posted
5 / 28

or not schedule back to back.

Posted By: tonycif
Okay my ATF Micah Callahan asked me a question and I told her I would post it on a board so she could see more than just my opinion. She asked if a client is more than a few minutes late should she give up her free time in between appointments (to eat exc.)to still give them an entire hour or should she just have them reschedule or take what is left of what they booked for. This all came about due to a recent review she seemed slightly irritated with. I am kind of on her side on this one but that is just me. She said when you book a time in advanced you should take in account possible traffic or other things and make arrangements to be there close to the time you scheduled. She said when someone is more then 10 to 15 minutes late  and still insist on an hour she feels like they do not respect her time or the space she tries to create for herself in between appointments. ( She also said aside from what this review said it is not about volume but consideration for the provider and her time.)any opinions?

ttcttc 138 Reviews 591 reads
posted
6 / 28

I write this as a huge Micah fan -- her skills, looks, attitude, professionalism.  I am certain she was not trying to rip anybody off.  

I totally get that providers have schedules.  So, no, a provider should not have to rearrange her whole schedule if someone is late.    

But clients have schedules too.  I have been made late by many more providers than I have made late.  

I think there just has to be some give and take and understanding.  Maybe it's the client's fault he is late.  Maybe it was just trafffic.  Sometimes if a client is late, it might be possible for the provider to do a full hour.  Sometimes not.  It's probably best to clarify this at the beginning of the hour, when the client actually does show.  The two times I have been late, I have texted ahead and I think that is probably appreciated by the provider.  

Anyway, Micah, your many fans will not be dissuaded by a single review

ttcttc 138 Reviews 513 reads
posted
7 / 28

spoken like a true professional

TheDollarMenu 557 reads
posted
8 / 28

Do you show up late to work 10 to 15 minutes late? Do you show up to your doctor's appointment 10 to 15 minutes late? Do you show up to a meeting 10 to 15 minutes late? Appointments are contracts made by both parties so they agree to meet at a specific time. We're not children no more. We're all old enough to live through what is acceptable and unacceptable behavior. We've all experience being late for an appointment, whether it's a meeting, doctor's appointment, or work. After being late, a person should be able to make accommodations and adjustments to his or her behavior to prevent being late again. That means, plan ahead, plan for traffic, plan for the unexpected, and show up early.

Even though my work schedule is at a specific time, I am always there 1 or 2 hours before I start so I can plan, get ready, and make accommodations and adjustments for that particular day. If I was 15 minutes late for my doctor's visit, they would reschedule me because it would be inconsiderate of other people's time. If I was late to a meeting, it does not reflect well on my professionalism.  

I am always at least one hour ahead of my appointment with any provider. I use that time to possible find something quick to eat, have a coffee, or do something leisurely. To answer your (or her) question, yes, clients who are late are inconsiderate of the provider's time "if" they want the full hour and are 15 minutes late. That type of behavior is not acceptable.

She has 2 options, either reschedule or allow the client to retain the remaining 45 minutes of his time. People in general have to know that there will always be consequences for there actions. If those in charge do not enforce those consequences then the behavior is repeated over and over and the person will never learn from it or neglect the importance of it.

Good day.

AllyMoore See my TER Reviews 503 reads
posted
9 / 28

I try to generously space appointments so that there is flexibility on my end.

Personally, I hate when I'm invited to join someone who is so tightly scheduled himself that he pressures me because my 10 minute lateness to a say 6p appointment impacts the dinner meeting he expected to join at 7p.  That is stressful.  I like when I'm booked in a way that if a gent says "hey, I'm caught in traffic" I can say, "its all good, I'm fiddling with my hair- take your time".

Sometimes things just fall in a way that a girl has to book in a way that doesn't allow for a relaxed schedule, particularly during tours or with agencies.  In the event that a lady is working on a tight schedule I'd say she ought to make sure she's well-rested, nourished and just put her game face on until the end of the work day.   If someone is so late that it means that she cannot bathe, re-dress, refresh the space & reasonably reset to the point where she can be genuinely pleasant then she should indicate she can no longer be available & that she hopes that he can reschedule.   A client who is late and chooses to keep his appointment if the offer is extended should anticipate that he may not receive his full time and remember that it is not her fault- she was right where she said she'd be at the agreed upon time and any "shorted time" should be charged to the game.  

Time is money and everyone should respect it....but I think that a reasonable amount of flexibility and responsible booking on both sides of the aisle can alleviate some of the feelings of annoyance that come from a client being late

mr5mike 7 Reviews 494 reads
posted
10 / 28

What is the provider's policy when the shoe is on the other foot?  I have been asked on several occasions to wait 15 or 30 minutes in the bar to give someone "time to get ready".  If you have a no tolerance policy for your clients you best be equally hard on yourself.  Personally I have usually found that being tolerant of schedule shifts is just part of the hobby, and if it ends up that the delay is intolerable or just too much drama, I don't ever see the person again.  

What do they say?  "Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me."

Guarddog111 244 Reviews 520 reads
posted
11 / 28

I hate making the excuse, but Washington, DC is screwed-up as far as traffic.  One little thing and it adds at least fifteen minutes.

Regarding Micah, without going into too many details, can say BFM screwed-up and I made a huge effort to be on time as did Micah.  Those of you who have visited, know that her background means being on time and give the best service.

No easy answer for you Micah, maybe say since your'e that late will offer a half hour option and he should tip.  If not, cross him off your list.  I'm sure she has more than enough clients to be more choosey.

That being said, there are providers that make you wait then kick you out on the hour, and charge for the full hour even though they called you at ten after, a five minute walk-up, and end five minutes early...for basically a half hour session.

I'm personally big on being on time, meaning I text about five to ten minutes ahead saying I have arrived and let me know when you're ready.

Goes both ways, but in this case, Micah is the professional and I'm not going to believe the client's excuses.  She should have cancelled the appointment, caught her breath, grabbed a bite to eat and relaxed with the extra time IMHO.  Maybe asked the next client if they can come earlier and fill-in the time with requests that I'm sure she is getting all the time.

-- Modified on 10/14/2013 7:02:52 PM

MissLizzieBeth See my TER Reviews 556 reads
posted
12 / 28

I'm echoing a lot of you here but I think it really depends on the "how late" factor and the schedules/expectations of everyone involved.

If someone is 15/20 minutes late I would think that if he calls ahead to let her know he's on his way then he should be fine.  I can't imagine someone not giving at least a little bit of time for overlap/mishaps when scheduling themselves.  

If you will be a little later then 20 minutes then I would say so and maybe ask something like "Is it still alright that I visit?" and throw in a friendly "I don't want to mess your day up!"  If she assures you that you are fine to continue her way then I would think that that would indicate that you should still be able to spend the full amount of time with the girl.

Sofia White See my TER Reviews 447 reads
posted
13 / 28

Well thank you sweetie. :)

Tall6969 45 Reviews 474 reads
posted
14 / 28

One would think Indies's had more control over their schedule and as Sofia notes, plan for the worst case scenario along with allowing necessary time gaps  between appointments.  My experience is that's one of the benefits of dealing with indies....more flexibility and less stress with scheduling.  I've only dealt with one well known Indie who is, or was with me, a schedule Nazi.  Never went back.

One would expect and anticipate that if you're late with an agency girl the impact to schedules would be more pronouced.

Life410 12 Reviews 530 reads
posted
15 / 28

...You can get to the general area and then see if any of a list of ladies are available in an hr or two.  

Indys usually require planning and a longer notice window. And then you have to contact multiple women in an area that you would have had to already been verified with...when you can just contact the booker at an agency and pick from the buffet, lol.

-- Modified on 10/15/2013 10:38:54 AM

sophiaLA See my TER Reviews 546 reads
posted
16 / 28

If a lady is talented, beautiful and works with an agency forgettaboutit. Whenever I visit Tysons it's a whirlwind of client shower dress client shower dress client shower dress client shower shower dress...
You learn your first tour that tours in Tyson are not for the faint of heart. When I get home I look like I'm returning from some indoor yoga retreat. I'm paler, a few lbs lighter, eyes are more sensitive to sunlight. So yeah, whatever precious time the agency bestows upon me where things like food are made possible is worth drawing blood for.  

When everyone is on time arriving and leaving it's much smoother sailing, however, ish happens. I get it but this is one of those things you have to be kinda firm about. If you're like "Hey whatever, no biggie, come late, stay late,what? half an hour? No worries bro" You'll find yourself with a black book of all the slackers and ncns's. Give an inch but keep your eye on the mile.

Dionysusreborn 17 Reviews 614 reads
posted
17 / 28

Sophia,  I hear you on being "firm."  However, I think you have to have a clear idea of what firm is.  Most people I would think would agree if that meant 1) Telling a client you are late and I can't see you or 2) You are late and I can only see you for 30 minutes.  Where the argument is when someone shows up, nothing is said, they pay an hourly rate and get more like a half-hour.  The being firm on the back end, taking an hour's donation instead of 30 and surprising the client when the half-hour is up is what needs to be settled.  In my view honesty is needed initially if you what a relationship with the client.  I guess If you want to keep an hourly rate, 300 plus for 30 minutes that's fine, but tell the client before he decides to stay awhile.  If the client walks away they walk away, but that's not a complete loss.  I tend to think if they like you they will come back and see you again some other time and double, triple, or quadruple the hourly rate in repeated visits.  The key is communication so there are no surprises.  That is why everybody is on TER anyway so we are not surprised, clients or ladies.  I do agree that a client has a responsibility to tell the provider they are running late and I always make a practice of texting the lady or scheduler of my status.  In return there should be a clear communication back from the lady of what the consequences of being late means.  Whatever you call firm, just be up front about it.

AsianManNOVA 516 reads
posted
18 / 28

We used to have Classy, Prime/DMV, and a few others. They were all meat grinders that chewed up and spit out girls (not to mention being thuggish). Most of the girls got burned out after just a few months. Thank goodness that they all got busted. If you cannot set your own schedule and have to do a lot of back to back appointments, maybe it's time to switch to another agency. We had a couple good agencies like TGND and Pure Girlfriends that actually treated their girls like human beings, but unfortunately they are defunct. Even the Korean agencies treat their girls better. A lot of times, I was running 10 to 15 minutes late and I texted them right away. They always tell me no problem and I always get my full hour. As a matter of fact, the only agency girls I see these days are K Girls.

Captain Midnight 35 Reviews 475 reads
posted
19 / 28

I have had some odd things happen to make me late for appointments, ranging from accidents blocking a road completely (turned out the lady was four cars behind me and just as fretful about running late) to locking my keys in the car (I called and rescheduled).  Staying in touch with the person you've made an appointment with is just one of those things you need to do.

Sometimes, mistakes happen.  I made a dumb navigational mistake once, and wound up having to go a long way to fix it; that was on me, and when the lady let me know that she couldn't flex our time enough to accommodate my error, well... that one was totally my fault.  My appointment time got shortened, and while I wasn't happy about it, I should have been more careful about getting where I needed to be.  However, I also once had an ATF say she'd text me the room number when I let her know I'd arrived at the hotel... and somehow, she sent the text to the wrong number.  We wound up nearly 15 minutes late, and that was totally *her* fault.  

Let's not even go into the number of times I've heard "Give me a few more minutes, honey...".  Be considerate of everyone, don't take it for granted that "a few extra minutes" are available, and stay in touch.

guelloq 47 Reviews 448 reads
posted
20 / 28

I have had a career in sales and learned the adage that if you are 15 minutes early you don't respect your time and if you are 15 minutes late you don't respect the customers time.  I have also worked in the hospitality  industry and learned the adage that if you are on time, you are late.  Either way you go -- people's time = money.  Respect that.

Nomoreplay 63 Reviews 433 reads
posted
21 / 28

I'd be irritated too, it's the same way the other way around. When a provider is late, it takes time out of my day for anything I have initially planned. Unfortunately, clients and providers are all guilty of tardiness; I'm usually on time for my appointments but I occasionally have hiccups in my schedule or under estimate traffic, but we're only human right? In my opinion, no she should not adjust her schedule if a gentleman is late; I would give a 10 minute grace period, but nothing more than that.

vamikey 74 Reviews 395 reads
posted
22 / 28

being late was on me,  and I would not expect the lady in question to extend the date to make up for my failure to be on time.  As a result, I try very hard to never be late; this includes being very careful to set up appts. that I'm pretty sure I can make on time with little trouble.  As a result, I can only think of once when I've been noticeably late, when I hit some unexpected traffic congestion on one of the rare occasions when I made an appt. that might have been subject to traffic delays.  In that case I let the lady know I was going to be late & would do my best; as it turned out, it was a late morning appt. and after seeing me she was checking out & leaving for home & had already gotten late checkout clearance so she was kind enough to extend the appt. to full time, but I did not just expect it.  My view is that if you agree to meet from 3:00-4:00, it is your obligation to be nearby and call at 2:55 or so for further instructions.  If you are unable to meet that obligation, the lady has no obligation to offer you any time beyond 4:00 just because you failed to hold up your end of the bargain.
I also think it works the other way, within reason; if I call at 3:55 & she says I need a few minutes I'll call you back, if she calls me back at 4:10, then I'd expect that she'd allow the session to run until around 5:10.  Only once was I seriously delayed when I was on time, nearly a half hour later when I got a call back to come on up (and I'm not discussing the several NCNS occasions when I never got a call back) and I got a lame excuse but she did give me my full hour.
I always think of like an appt. with a therapist who charges $ 150/hr (a 50-minute hour); if you show up at 4:10 for your 4:00 appt., you'll still be out the door at 4:50 and it'll still be $ 150!

Sidney Starr See my TER Reviews 436 reads
posted
23 / 28

A provider needs to carry herself how she best chooses. In this business providers and clients are late. being in DC/NOva we all know that traffic is a mess so it is always best to add extra time to travel time. It happens though even when we try to prevent it.  

  So if a client is late , by like 15 mins I have rearranged my schedule. Sometimes I have had to cancel my personal plans because when I make plans appointment wise I like it to follow through. I can eat later or I can workout later. I have had clients really late and I still make it work. They have taken time to come out to visit me and I have taken the time to be there and available for them. I will do whatever I can to best make it work so that everyone is happy in the end.  

  I had one client who I had seen a few times and he was over an hour late. Well I was NOT happy but I still waited and I saw him but we did not, could not do the full two hours he wanted. He is a different situation because I know for a fact he left late and basically just was not respecting my time. I was about to give up and leave but in the end it worked out.  

  We ARE our own bosses, but we are in the customer service industry as well. Without clients we are nothing.

go4milfsandgreek 143 Reviews 455 reads
posted
24 / 28

Indy or Agency
Repeat or First timer
is it inconveniencing personal time or professional time (could impact other clients)

IRL, I run a customer service business that is by appointment for hour long sessions usually.  Clients run late all the time.  Sure, we have a written cancellation policy, but that is really just a deterrent to bad behavior and for financial protection (understand how that is not an option in this biz, to take a CC with every appt...)

We NEVER impact another client because an earlier one ran late/didn't plan/can't tell time. Can't imagine a provider or agency would either if they want to maintain a good reputation

We ALWAYS try to accommodate clients who run late within reason.  Did they give us fair warning or just wander in 20 minutes late? Does our employee (yes, I know, huge difference here, but the principle is the same) have open availability afterward to accommodate a later start and provide the full time length or booked solid (session ends as scheduled)

There is no right answer, but, as Sidney pointed out, this is a customer service business.

SMDTC 113 Reviews 418 reads
posted
26 / 28

There is no requirement for any business who's time based to rearrange anything just because the client is late and their shouldn't be any expectation of a reduced rate for the time you booked or for the business to rearrange their schedule just because you were tardy regardless of the reason. If the business fulfilled their obligation by being ready at the appointed time for the agreed duration then the client owes them for that time. Would it be nice for them to rearrange their schedule or reduce the cost? Yes, but sometimes it's just not possible and one should never assume that it is.

IMHO, Time is by far the most valuable thing anyone has. You never get it back once it's gone. Money is just money, they'll print more. Pay for the time you book and be happy your getting such a great value. Be Safe

Dionysusreborn 17 Reviews 503 reads
posted
27 / 28

SMDTC, I agree a lady can charge whatever she wants to charge for 30 minutes or 15.  Oh by the way there are ladies who do the opposite and will say - "we will have to reschedule" or if you continue on yor way I'm going to charge you for the full hour.  There is no set practice that everyone follows.  I won't argue about who is right, but the good thing about TER is that if ladies don't tell you what their practice is TER (through reviews and discussion boards) is an opportunity to inform the community.  So if someone gets caught up in an accident on 66 on there way to see a provider in Tysons who will charge for an hour even if it is only 30 at least that client can make an informed decision if they did TER research.  Yes, people can do whatever they like, but there is no standard as you can tell from the ladies who decided to respond to this.  I think it was good that this discussion topic came up because I'm sure there are a few guys out there that had not given the issue consideration.

Sexy Gymnast See my TER Reviews 522 reads
posted
28 / 28

This would  be the number 1 reason to NEVER let someone else book anything for you.. Okay, so now that, that is out of the way. lol It is completely up to the Provider, her schedule and whether she has the time (in my case it wouldn't make a difference if he were late unless I had something personal that made it so I had to leave by a certain time) because I never ever double book. If he is late, and she is unable to accommodate..then that is how it is.  And it is not her fault.  :)

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