Even if a lady can vouch for you as Marie is still around and could say she say you, however, most ladies want a reference that is less than a year old. As some of the best clients believe it or not one day just snapped and changed. There have been clients that were known among many ladies and always good and then one day things changed for whatever reason, a death in the family, maybe they lost their job, or whatever, or just was not the same anymore... What was sad is the ladies trusted the gent as a regular and then just out of the blue the guy had a session and then did not pay and was like what are you going to do about it, tell my wife, go to my job? The ladies just let it go, but he ruined his chances of ever seeing them again. You just never know with people. So, yes, people screen for the safety of you and for them... I would just go through whoever you want to see's screening process... Then do lifetime membership on date-check. BE willing to provide your info... Good luck... Happy Hobbying...
Need some recommendations...
I am a long time hobbyist, but only see a few women per year. My experiences include a long line of courtesans including Amy the red head spinner (2010), Robin another red head (2007) ...all the way back to the late 1990s and early 2000s and the days of Marie69 and Anais. The last several years though I was using Sky/Eden - who as another poster recently discussed - is one of the many highly disorganized/cautious asian agencies who no longer remember me after frequenting them for years. And now my dilemna becomes obvious - with Date Check and P411 etc. sweeping the hobby I can't find anyone to verify me. All of the independents I saw have since retired. I want to get verified by a provider - and avoid having my personal information (employment, etc.) shared with Date Check for example. Does anyone know of providers who are willing to accomodate my situation - i.e. a long time hobbyist with no references?
I recently reached out to a long time provider who has been in/out of the scene probably since the days of Marie69 and Anais, but once I told her I was not verified, she never responded back. It seems everyone is cautious these days - understandably so. Thanks for any recommendations!
They need to be comfortable seeing you. And if you don't have any P411/DateCheck references or anyone vouching for you, they are not going to be comfortable...PERIOD...It is entirely possible that they lost your info.
This is one of the reasons that I write reviews on regular basis. Now, if you would have written some reviews, we wouldn't be even having this discussion.
If I were to advise you, I would say open a P411 account and provide your personal info. Their servers are overseas and out of reach of our good-for-nothing LE. Gina will help you with getting set.
FWIW, Just because you have been seeing providers for 15+ yrs doesn't make you one bit entitled to see someone without going through their screening process..
No one has a "right" to hobby. It is a privilege that is earned and must be maintained. Your situation is a good reason to write reviews on multiple sites, request OKs and whitelistings, etc. Like all good things, this takes some work and investment.
One point though. While LE can't get info on foreign servers, intel agencies can, and they share with LE, all for the purpose of preventing bad guys doing bad things. Objective is to not become a target.
Hobby safe.
Everyone has their own standards. Just because a hobbyist was verified by so and so..doesn't mean that the next will accept so and so as a reference. If that makes sense. And not having references is just not going to work for any legitimate well reviewed lady. For example, I would never just accept work information etc. My screening is much more detailed then just making sure you're not L.E. It all depends on what exactly you are looking for though. If you are just looking for a quick meaningless meeting, you wont need to give much screening for that type of provider.
Best wishes,
Aerial May~
You made some good points about seeing new providers. It does not always pay to put all your eggs in one basket.
Do reviews.
Due to the nature and security concerns of our specific target audience we only accept Fantasy Client Screening and they do not accept provider references, nor Date Check.
Pass their screening, see an associate and you can use us for a reference or not and continue to do what you're currently doing.
Do or do not, your path to follow where it leads you.
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Even if a lady can vouch for you as Marie is still around and could say she say you, however, most ladies want a reference that is less than a year old. As some of the best clients believe it or not one day just snapped and changed. There have been clients that were known among many ladies and always good and then one day things changed for whatever reason, a death in the family, maybe they lost their job, or whatever, or just was not the same anymore... What was sad is the ladies trusted the gent as a regular and then just out of the blue the guy had a session and then did not pay and was like what are you going to do about it, tell my wife, go to my job? The ladies just let it go, but he ruined his chances of ever seeing them again. You just never know with people. So, yes, people screen for the safety of you and for them... I would just go through whoever you want to see's screening process... Then do lifetime membership on date-check. BE willing to provide your info... Good luck... Happy Hobbying...
The timing and volume of my activity in the hobby can, like you, fluctuates. I deplore the verification process but I fully understand it and submit to it’s requirements. You’re probably suffering from what I suffer from as I also have been doing this for double-digit years (Anais was a favorite of mine) with the only goal being to have a wonderfully sexy time with a sexy lady. I’m sane; never been to jail; never done anything to warrant going to jail; a fine upstanding, taxpaying citizen; college educated, professional; etc, etc, etc. So I say to myself….why would a provider need to be cautious of me?!?!?!
I write using my alias because frankly I feel the screening/verification process is overrated and overhyped to a point. Yes, I get the need to have a process to ensure safety but some of the hoops are unnecessary. Case in point, I make a appointment with the provider and provide my employment info along with the fact that she had my TER info. She says she is good with the info and we are a go after she verifies the info was correct. I even asked her does she need anything else and she replies "no, I'm good." I get to the room and she asks to see my ID, huh (I never have my wallet on me during a session)? She apologizes that she didn't let me know of the requirement over the phone. I return to the car and for a brief moment considered leaving but I relented, got my ID and returned to the room. She looked at my license and we were a go. Had the session which was uneventful as sessions with providers go. The go-back-to-the-car buzz kill didn't help either. With that said....a few howevers:
However 1; the parties to this very intimate transaction/arrangement/tryst are total strangers and in all due reality the screening/verification process should be done by both parties to ensure the safety and investment return of both parties. Hey the trick/John can get hit in the head and “taken” just like the provider. So I get the need for the whole screening/verification thing.
However 2; I’m not comfortable with giving out my personal info to date-check/verification sites and independents who DO NOT have a staff to ensure my PPI is secured and/or destroyed. Their focus is the appointment. In addition, I’ve seen too many Madams, Agencies, and Indies alike get busted and the news story reads…… “they have retrieved the lap tops and will be reviewing the client lists of these providers for potential legal action….” The DC area has had two highly publicized cases of Madams being busted and the threat of outing their Client List. Huh, will I have to suffer the Perp walk on the six o’clock news? While the chances of that happening are slim…there is the chance none-the-less which I can’t afford to have happen AT ALL.
Hence, I offer the following:
1. Per my double digit years doing this, the point of providers who DO NOT screen and/or “overly” screen somehow provide less service is overhyped! I have routinely gone several months without hobbying and yes when you dive back in it can be like starting all over net of making appointments with ATFs and ladies who I’ve been regular with over the years. And yes it is true even with these ladies they don’t provide references if you have not seen them in the last six months which is OK with me and I actually admire as it does give the reference process, at least by the specific providers who have this policy, some credence. Hence, I simply make an appointment or two with ladies who do not have a rigorous screening process and some who don’t even screen at all. My experience doing this allows for me to have keen Spidy senses and if I get a bad vibe from so called “risky non-screeners” I move on. Bottom line…you may lose out on a lady or two you want to see because you don’t fit her screening/verification policy. However, there are many, many, viable, alternative candidates out there. After establishing yourself again you can go back and arrange meetings with those “must see’s” that you missed earlier. Or, you may have a V8 moment and simply conclude the alternative was sufficient.
2. Yes, TER and doing reviews is invaluable. Under my non-alias I have a history of reviews the ladies can refer to. While there may gaps in activity there is a strong history there none-the-less. I even have been WhiteListed. None if this has a PPI risk for the most part. So do some reviews.
Good Luc