Just wanted to say that I am always polite and gentlemanly to the ones I'm with when I visit them...even if they are all not rated 10s. Over the years this has paid back returns.  There are three or four very high rated reviewed ladies I see often who are no longer open to the public.  They are super to be with and they love what they do.  This is all I can share since discreetness is a must.  How many of you have your special person set aside who no longer is active in the trade but will see you when you call?

The dream of an inactive ATF seeing me on the side would only be better if it were free - yummy.

Can't say that I've lived this dream yet. But I would like to say that ratings of 10 isn't a selling point to me nor will it even be as they are very subjective. Consistancy is better - as long at it is not a consistant 5 or lower - LOL....

Now back to the retired but still doing you... You are bragging btw - which is ok, but painful to some - not me of course :O(

Can't wait to see what others have to add.

a providers point of view

I was just having this kind of discussion with a client of mine who wants to be my steady boyfriend and lover.
I told him yesterday that, when I retire from the business, I will keep seeing few of my favorite clients not for the money, but only for the hot sex they provide me....him included.
I know of few girls who are "retired" from the boards and all, but still see their favorite guys on the side, as a supplementary income. They are the UTR ones.
On the other side of the coin, I think most guys would not want to see a provider without paying for. For some, paying is the thrill that gets them going and for others paying means "service and go".
When you eliminate the barrier of $$$, things might take a turn that they want to avoid. Isn't why you hire a hooker in the first place?

Okay, I have ONE.  The future count?  Who knows?  It is possible that number might increase, or decrease.  Perish the thought it would decrease, but such can be life.  I just feel incredibly lucky to have one, at this point.

...sounds like I better "hop aboard" (while there STILL might be a chance)...~~;} Then again, once you see me, you might be VERY concerned about my hopping upon ANYTHING (especially YOU or your dog).  You DO have a dog, do you not?  If not, once you let ME in, you WILL!

Re:a providers point of view

Hope nobody minds if an outsider jumps in on this one....
In my eleven years of experience I can honestly say that most providers do keep a short list of friends that they continue to see long after they'v "retired".I think that the excitement of the hobby is something that the ladies need in their lives as well after all.When a provider cares about her work it often spills over into playtime!
Yours Amber

I consider myself lucky if the active ones will see me.

Treat people with politeness and act like a gentlemen even if they are not a perfect 10? What a revolutionary idea. Shouldn't that be standard procedure for life in general, not just this hobby?

Back to your question. I have had two atf's leave the hobby. One offered to keep seeing me and the other left because she fell in love (for some odd reason she never mentioned seeing me again).

You should treat people with politeness and act like a gentlemen everyday of your life..Simple motto in life..Great point man.

Re:a providers point of view

I'm not sure how I would handle having a provider retire and offer to play for free. I sure wish I could find out if it is something good or bad - hehhe.. But you point of pay and go is correct for some. For me, as long as the sex was for the same reason as when I was paying for it - that would be great - I would hope to get it more often and possibly for longer periods. But that is a fantasy, after all, who would give it up to me with no commitments and cost - not even my SO does this - LOL...

Re:a providers point of view

Slip, that "free part" was just how betty was handling it (specifically with that one guy).  Perhaps she was doing it (or would do it) with certain others, but that was not clear to me.  

 Hey in my case it's not free, but it IS reasonable.  To me, the fact that I am chosen as one of the "privileged few" is GOOD ENOUGH.  We're just her "dirty little secret".  It only works if the "specifics" of the secret are kept.  The LAST thing a gal in this situation wants is to have to deal with a bunch of "crazies" or unknown "newbies" again.  That is a big part of what she LEFT.

 Oh yes, as for that "no committment and no cost" part, I don't think ANYBODY'S SO does THAT.  After all, isn't that a BIG part of why there even IS this hobby?

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I think I could SECOND that "emotion", slip.  Damn, in fact I KNOW I could!!

Then why the HELL don't you do it on the board, BD??  HAHAHA  Or is it that us Bal'mr folk aren't REAL people in your view??...LOL

 Oh yes, bigdaddy.  ONE other thing?  Since you know, where the HELL IS Ladysmith, anyway??  ROTF

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I am pretty tame on the board Ponzone.. Alway try to be the peacemaker and alway bite my tongue when it come to you(lol).. We are all brethen in this hobby, no need to flame on anyone..Ladysmith is a long way from Bal'mr..

Well, perhaps I may be coming closer to achieving one of the "missions" in my life.  If you bite it off, perhaps that may quiet you down a bit...ROTF.

 Me flame?  NEVER.  That is unless you light a match to my derrier..... However that would more resemble an explosion, I think....

 Naah, we're gettin' to be ole buds, bro'.  If it weren't for you, I wouldn't have anybody to pick on around here.  What kinda' fun would that be?  Oh yeah, looking forward to meeting the wife and kids at your July 4th barbecue.  Now, what can we tell them?  Oh yes of course, BUSINESS ASSOCIATE.  Yeah, that'll work. LMSFAO

 Ladysmith is a long way from Bal'mr?  Well, timewise so is Alexandria or Tyson's!  But I know where THEY are....

Next time Betty's in town, you should definitely meet her.  My friend, she is *unbelievable* -- just check out my most recent review.

Good grief, I don't even want to read the words Betty and retirement in the same paragraph, much less sentence!  I just missed seeing her last week, and I'm still depressed about that.....

Hey Ponz, actually its on US 1 about 30 miles south of Fredricksburg VA. (intersection of 639 and US 1). I can't imagine what motels are there.

Well, I guess we would just do it in the woods.  I've heard of "not leaving home" without my raincoats.  This time it looks like I will also need to bring my deer tick and mosquito repellants.  Used to have to worry about viruses and STD's.  Now we gotta worry about West Nile and Lyme Disease AS WELL...  Life just seems to keep getting tougher and tougher.