I have noticed that lately more ladies have mentioned a cancellation fee in their posts (ads) and on their websites. I have also noticed that some ladies are now requesting a "fee" for providing references.

For starters....hey hotstuff  

I have one such cancellation notice on my site. These days I have significantly cut back my availability so if someone cancels car in advance and then they cancel last minute or close to the day of, it screws me up. I am fine with the person rescheduling. I only work a few hours on my days available so when I have a few hours blocked off for a client and he cancels, it's a bummer for a few reasons.  

I think these are both great questions.  

I never booked anyone who had a cancellation fee to my best recollection. Not even clear how it would be enforced. As said, it is a risk the provider takes - part of doing business.

If we're holding an incall for a set day, or touring, our availability is limited, especially if we're not high volume ladies and can only see a certain maximum of clients a day. If I can only see 4 clients a day, and one cancels, that effectively removes 25% of my income from that day. If you cancel a day in advance, I have a better chance of filling in your spot, and i don't charge  a cancel fee, if you cancel within 24 hours, you start e on a rat race of trying to fill in that time slot, and emailing clients i previously told I was unavailable.  

You obviously have your views and they are what they are. I have mine and they are what they are. We will simply have to agree to disagree. I'm good with that.

Glad to hear your opinion little lady.

...95% of the time anyways. I'm typically a 1 a day (maybe 3x-4x a week) lady. I can't just easily replace a guy who last minute cancels or no show and I refuse to get stuck with the full bill of the room. My policy where the fee kind of rolls over if they reschedule within 30 days is more lenient than a lot of policies I've seen tho.

and I agree, yours is more lenient than a lot of other policies and makes perfect sense to me.

Imagine that....LOL!!

What type of payment arrangements do they make to pay the $25 reference fee ? Do they have electronic payment or do you have to visit them in person to make the payment (book another appointment with them) ?

Paying for a reference is ridiculous. A provider accepting a reference her potential client paid for is absurd! Does she want an honest and genuine opinion from someone I've seen that says I'm OK? Or does she want to hear from someone I paid to tell her I'm OK? I bet providers charging for references don't have a 6 month rule.  

Ugh the alias allows me to avoid personal attacks. I speack my mind very clearly here, but I wouldn't do so under my regular name SPECIFICALLY because it would affect my business. and why should i? I'm not obligated to, so I won't do so. I don't change my alias, and I use the same one each time, so your'e free to track my postings, BUt i would be stupid to make comments under my name. DO you ever wonder why most posts from ladies are so eloquently written and very often they don't disagree, and if they do they spend 500 words explaining why they disagree? its to avoid backlash. THey're not free to speak their mind because men generally do not like that.

You're hiding your real identity due to the possibility of backlash. So you feel free to speak your mind when nobody knows it's you?  

Oh god. How high is that horse you're on?

You can live your "lives" the way you want to. That is a choice you have to make.  

and I certainly don't plan to start doing so now.

But see thats the thing about aliases. They aren't exposing. At the end of the the day, i walk away, reputation intact. as for the rest of your comment, i really only read the beginning and the end, the rest seems like you lecturing me, it was boring. I wish you luck as well!

One item I rarely see discussed whenever the subject of cancellation fees comes up is what about the provided cancelling?  Do providers who have a cancellation (or deposit) policy provide a cancellation fee back to the client if the provider cancels (or worse no shows)?  I have yet to see a reference to that kind of reciprocation on any provider site.  In the 20+ years that I have been in the hobby, I have had more providers cancel on me than I on them.  I can only remember canceling the day before or the day of an appointment two or three times, and mostly for illness.  In one instance, I did add an extra amount to the fee when I did reschedule since I had to cancel the morning of, but it was not requested by the provider.  In a couple instances where the provider has cancelled they have offered, but not followed through, to "make it up to me".  My time is just as valuable as theirs so I try not to see providers who have rigid cancellation policies, as well as only scheduling when I have a high level of confidence that I can keep the appointment.  

I am generally reasonable in terms of enforcing policy- and I usually will ask for the cancel fee only if I incurred a tangible loss (e.g. Hotel room paid for and unused, actual prep time because well over the majority of my appointments come with a special request these days). Not on hypothetical "I could've seen a client with the time you booked", unless I'm on tour.  

So you offer "ADDITIONAL TIME"? Why not a discount price. You want money from the guy for cancelling but yet you would not cut you fee.  

Posted By: priyarainelle

Re: I have a cancel fee
I am generally reasonable in terms of enforcing policy- and I usually will ask for the cancel fee only if I incurred a tangible loss (e.g. Hotel room paid for and unused, actual prep time because well over the majority of my appointments come with a special request these days). Not on hypothetical "I could've seen a client with the time you booked", unless I'm on tour.  
   
 My personal opinion is that it's important to be clear on expectations and a cancel policy is obligatory in terms of setting the expectation that we be respectful of each others time.  
   
 Just like any other hospitality industry, I do govern myself by the mantra "life happens", and I think it's important to be mindful of that. As long as you are transparent and considerate, I can be flexible. It's fairly clear when heavy handedness is required  
   
 I think you are spot on in your approach- if you don't think the policy is reasonable then don't book with the lady in question.  
   
 if someone refuses to pay it then I will just not see them until payment has been remit. If someone refuses to pay it- It's okay, like you said- nothing to lose sleep over. The client has many options and I know I'll always have other clients I don't believe in blacklisting for stuff like that, as I think its inappropriate.  
   
 I require multi hour deposits and I have on several occasions given back deposits for appointments when cancelled far enough in advance by the client.  
   
 Admittedly, I have had to cancel or ask to reschedule because my day job requires a significant amount of travel and the nature of my work is very volatile, and in those instances I typically offer additional time for a client in the future when we can reschedule. I can count on one hand the number of times I've had to cancel or reschedule an appointment.  
   
 It does hurt my heart to hear clients say that providers cancel on them often for dishonest reasons. That kind of behavior is unacceptable.  
   
 I would never make a client pay me for a reference to see another provider. References are for provider safety. Can't put a price on that..

Charging a cancellation fee weeds out the time wasters from the true hobbyist. It seems like last minute cancellations are becoming a "thing." Browse the boards, im sure in each city there will likely be more than a few posts on the topic. Guys are becoming more lax when it comes to being considerate of a ladies time, and it seems like a handful of ladies are doing the same. With this happening more often of course you are going to see an influx in cancellation policies. As long as you are a gentleman when it comes to meeting and rescheduling in the event of a rw situation popping up, you will have no issue and shouldn't shy away from seeing providers based on this policy alone.

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If anyone remembers beefeater, I believe the bartering for references is what lead timeis demise...among other things.

Agreed. Stuff happens. In 25 years of this hobby I've cancelled maybe twice. I've been cancelled on likely around 10 times with varying degrees of explanation. It's how it's handled that's important. Again stuff happens.

So if you have a cancellation fee, what is your policy when you cancel?

Again WOW! Im shocked to hear that a few would require guests that have already invested in their service, a fee to provide a reference for them.If the guy was really a nice person who treated you well,why not repay his kindness by putting in a good word for him?.
I mean thats like saying ,lets pay guys for doing reviews for us?At that point it becomes disingenious and your no longer putting in a good word b thay persin is truely grear.But rather your doing it bc you were paid to.

It's not always the gentlemen that cancel. I drove 45 minutes to see a provider. I had texted to let her know when I left and then again when I arrived and .... Crickets. No text or request to delay until I was back in the car fighting traffic. This was a frustrating experience; don't companions understand that our time is worth something?  

The only appointments I've ever cancelled were because I chose not to visit the area, so there's that. And even then I can count them in one hand.  

Well, this one does

Cancellations really grind my gears for many reasons, and I can only assume as a client how frustrating it must be to plan ahead, travel to your destination, and be stood up. "Treat others how you want to be treated." A general rule of life that translates perfectly into this hobby as well. Who knew. *shoulder shrug*