"have sky high rates all the way up 2000+/hr. I have no problem with gorgeous ladies charging as much as she can get away with"
DUH! of course he's not complaining about the price.
"In fact, the total number of drop dead gorgeous babes in DC, I can count them all on my right hand, even when I'm in a knee-walking piss drunk state of mind... with the help of using my 5 fingers."
Ask yourself WHY? and all you really have to do is read the constant string of how the board thinks about providers (Agencies and Indys). If they are not providing a level of service we expect at a price we expect then we start a thread about it. That seems to happen often and they notice it as well...
I don't care about price, but the girls do.... that is what my post is about, All" of the "Complaining" about providers is making our board look like a bunch of grumpy old men.... who would want to come to DC after reading the complaints on this board about providers... we think we are somehow giving the girls valuable info, but what they read may not be how you intended...
In the end this is effecting who comes to DC and which "Locals" vanish or retire....
Also this is not a he said she said post, its a general impression of the "DC Board"... When I say "DC Board" or "We" its due to association that we are clumped into that... sure there are people on the board who haven't complained about price or other, but silence can also be mistaken (By anyone) as compliance or acceptance to the general rule.
2 cents
-ST-
I for one never complain about the price. I see providers with average looks score of >9. And I don't think the OP is complaining about the price either.
of drop dead gorgeous providers!
In LA, where I occasionally visit, there are tons of babes who look like victoria secret models and swim suit models. Here in DC, I find myself searching for many many hours, yet vast majority of the ads turn out to be utter disappointments after disappointments. And when I do I do stumble upon a drop dead gorgeous babe, her review performance either sucks sheep bawls or she's just TGTBT.
In fact, the total number of drop dead gorgeous babes in DC, I can count them all on my right hand, even when I'm in a knee-walking piss drunk state of mind... with the help of using my 5 fingers.
What the heck is wrong with DC? Especially considering there's a healthy supply of middle aged men with stable income?
Not surprisingly, the ones that are somewhere close to drop dead perfect 10 gorgeous have sky high rates all the way up 2000+/hr. I have no problem with gorgeous ladies charging as much as she can get away with. Limited supply with constant demand, market ultimately determines her price. Unfortunately, vast majority of them aren't anywhere close to a 9 or even an 8 in performance so price does not equate to performance or increase in menu options.
Oh well, just my saterday rant. Just tired of fugly ( not referring to our beloved moderator.. ![]()
Time to see some gorgeous porn stars again... hmm
Your post pretty much summed up what I have been noticing for the last several years. I've scanned the Eros ads for other cities such as N.Y.C., and L.A. and the sheer amount of really attractive providers is mind boggling. We're in the wrong town. I plan on visiting one of these cities in the near future and hobby there nonstop for a week.
That's why after several years of hobbying for variety, I'm sticking with known hot ladies.
Alyssa Milano, in fact I rely heavily on visiting providers. lol
without them, DC would be a sad ass town.
What's the 38 for, is that accurate? u don't look like hip size 38.... closer to 35
If your photos are accurate, you look great.
Alyssa
Elle Vegas
Adriana Deville
Vivian
Kylie Daniels
Bellaroxxx
For pete's sake folks...I'm woefully curious where in the wild blue yonder people are looking. Right there you got 4 Aces. Trumps any other poker hand I know of.
Every week I look on Eros-DC in the Visiting section. There are usually ALWAYS 70-90 girls. I'd say 75-80% of them are top-notch.
Where are you people looking???
We're looking at the same spot you are. How many are on your list? Five, Six? Look beyond the first hilltop you see.
Try this: Take a pad and pencil and tally all of the hot babes you see on Eros N.Y.C./L.A., and D.C. Compare the numbers for each town. You will finally realize what I and others are discussing here.
There's different definitions of gorgeous. To me gorgeous is something I wouldn't see every day (like #1 on your list). Everyone else on your list walked past me at some point Friday night.
DC is Hollywood for the ugly.
If you travel cities like LA..LV..Chicago..NYC..you understand what the OP is saying. I think at one time DC was in the a top tier city. Now I must admit we have , like the dollar and DOW lost a few points. Love my DC faves , but yes, there is a shotage of 10s here compared to other great metro areas.
I actually think there are alot of good providers in DC and there are always great girls visiting because they know this is one of the few places in the states where the money is. The problem is you won't find these providers in one place - some advertise on the eros guide, others on cityvibe, others on backpages, some with agencies, and some don't advertise. Spend time doing searches on TER. Now if you like only a particular type of girl - say 5'9" blonde in her early 20s you are in trouble. You find only 1 or 2. I like a range of looks and ages and I constantly have the problem of picking and choosing between girls who range between 8 and 10 in the TER ratings. I just can't meet them all.
Also with the visiting girls there are some girls who visit here on a regular schedule - say once a month. They may not appear to be in DC in searches, but for all purposes they DC providers because you can meet them here.
I suggest you just spend a little more time researching.
I've been searching high and low and found only a handful of local ladies. Among those, over half of them don't even have a decent set of menu. Visitiing ladies are a different story, they change every day.
Looking at your reviews, I would agree that Austyn Summers would be one I'd rate as one of top talent. She used to be local to DC. Seems that she's no longer to be found anywhere ever since Capital Treasures disappeared. Is she still in the business?
ps: just out of curiosity, is your user name a reflection of Dionysus being the original story behind jesus? I'm kinda into that.
Just did a search on TER reviews for DC providers with average ratings (looks & performance) between 8 and 10. There are 31 for Sept so far. There others consistently in this range that are not reviewed this month. I would get on a site like datecheck. I see many good providers on there who do don't really advertise elsewhere.
I have seen majority of the top DC providers already... who rank in that range. Now an 8, I'm wondering if she'd qualify as a drop dead gorgeous babe. I'm saying that Local DC talent doesn't compare to LA or NYC. Visiting providers are not local. Hence I rely heavily on visiting ladies and verifiable young porn stars.
BTW, I wasn't seeking your advice on how to do a TER search (LOL) or get on a site like datecheck. I hobby almost every other day and know my way around this town and various sites. Some of the top DC ladies, I meet on a weekly basis and a few I'm personal friends with.
My point was: Out of all those DC local ladies, there were only a handful that I'd consider "drop dead gorgeous". Some of the ladies you reviewed, you scored them an 8 or so... not the most attractive even by your own measure. Austyn Summers would be the only one I'd say ranks near 9.. 10 to some.
Who are the drop dead gorgeous DC talent you have seen... ie: the ones that do not advertise on TER? Just curious to know and would like to find them. I'm sure they are hidden out there somewhere, and I spend a great deal of time on eros/backpage too, but I doubt a client needs to be searching high and low 2 hours a day on TER, backpage, datecheck, eros, etc. A true local talent would have already been discovered with a review on TER by now, no matter how low key she wants (unless she requested her review to be deleted).
Go on the California board and NYC board and check them out... tons of hot babes.
Top 100 TER providers:
NY 17
Las Vegas 17
LA 14
DC 2
It's true we have tons of visiting agency girls from the big 3, but most of them are 8 at best (and even that's inflated). I saw three agency girls when I visited Toronto in July. They were far better than what most DC can offer and at better rates. We used to have some hot-looking girls from agencies in Florida, but for some reason they don't come anymore. At least, CSJ now visits frequently so we have something to look forward to.
I visiting provider told me yesterday that the guys in our region are cheap. She told me that some of the guys she sees borrow money to see her. Don't have jobs. They complain about $200 rates, etc. Our area has a bidding war with the BP providers where they keep on lowering the prices to get customers. I know some of their customers can afford decent rates but are taking advantage of the 1/2 hour specials. Something that you would never seen before on TER are profiles that now have prices for 1/4 hour sessions.
NY 17
Las Vegas 17
LA 14
DC 2
It's true we have tons of visiting agency girls from the big 3, but most of them are 8 at best (and even that's inflated). I saw three agency girls when I visited Toronto in July. They were far better than what most DC can offer and at better rates. We used to have some hot-looking girls from agencies in Florida, but for some reason they don't come anymore. At least, CSJ now visits frequently so we have something to look forward to.
Maybe it's just me but I wish there were more days in the week so I could see more of the pretty ladies around here. I’m not big on the PS look, GND works for me.
I've traveled extensively over the years and have found beautiful ladies everywhere I go but one of the benefits of living here is the consistency of the talent in the area. There is always a little cutie out there!
great-looking visitors; and I value performance way over looks, I'd much rather have an 8 in looks and 10 in performance than vice versa. I'm not advocating for ugly people, but I've observed that a lot of OK ladies look much better with their lips wrapped around my member! Of course, YMMV.
If it's blonde, white, above 5'9, then I (and many other ladies) am disqualified based on DNA (the one thing I cannot change) - no matter what.
If I were you I would find a gorgeous girl and fly her to DC. Perhaps even set her up in an apt in DC. Then problem solved.
Kisses,
Vanica
These topics always make me laugh... why? because we (DC Board Members) are always complaining about the price, and if Indy is Better than Agency, Back page is better than Eros, Etc etc.... and now we are SEEING our own BS make DC a less desirable place for Providers to visit...
It upsets me, but it hasn't effected my hobbying, and with that, my "Style" may not be for everyone so I am sure this dose suck for quite a few of the "Variety is the only spice of life" but it hasn't put a damper on any of my fun.
With that being said I find it interesting that most of the recent topics on DC are why don't the girls offer the same or more for less? Or why are girls charging more than $300.00... Its pretty simple if the girl doesn't make a living off this, she isn't going to be coming back to DC.... So in our own hope to get cheaper dates, that is exactly what is showing up at our doorstep... I think we are being served what our market is telling them to serve...
I'm not sure but are you assuming the same hobbyists who complained about the price also complains about the quality of providers?
I for one never complain about the price. I see providers with average looks score of >9. And I don't think the OP is complaining about the price either.
Last one I saw I paid almost $3000 for 1 hr. I rarely pay that much and it cleaned out my hobby budget for a good while, but she was worth it. Call me crazy, but I just want the hottest most gorgeous babe. I don't hobby to bust a few nuts and call it a day, but for a mind blowing hypnotizing experience with the hottest babe in town.
UTR / providers can feel free to PM me. It doesn't take Einstein to figure out who I am, unless she's drunk. lmao
"have sky high rates all the way up 2000+/hr. I have no problem with gorgeous ladies charging as much as she can get away with"
DUH! of course he's not complaining about the price.
"In fact, the total number of drop dead gorgeous babes in DC, I can count them all on my right hand, even when I'm in a knee-walking piss drunk state of mind... with the help of using my 5 fingers."
Ask yourself WHY? and all you really have to do is read the constant string of how the board thinks about providers (Agencies and Indys). If they are not providing a level of service we expect at a price we expect then we start a thread about it. That seems to happen often and they notice it as well...
I don't care about price, but the girls do.... that is what my post is about, All" of the "Complaining" about providers is making our board look like a bunch of grumpy old men.... who would want to come to DC after reading the complaints on this board about providers... we think we are somehow giving the girls valuable info, but what they read may not be how you intended...
In the end this is effecting who comes to DC and which "Locals" vanish or retire....
Also this is not a he said she said post, its a general impression of the "DC Board"... When I say "DC Board" or "We" its due to association that we are clumped into that... sure there are people on the board who haven't complained about price or other, but silence can also be mistaken (By anyone) as compliance or acceptance to the general rule.
2 cents
-ST-
I for one never complain about the price. I see providers with average looks score of >9. And I don't think the OP is complaining about the price either.
Any girl over hip size 36 would be considered fat by db911. lmao![]()
If u can't figure out who I am, you must be drunk too. LOL
Neither of us like fat chics.
I've noticed that people don't appreciate what they haven't earned. Why don't you guys stop hobbying and try to get laid with a 8/8 or better.
You assume some of us don't have hot girlfriends. You couldn't have assumed any more wrongly.
The ladies and friends who have met my GF have all agreed she's someone who'd easily be a 9 or 10 in appearance. In fact, she was a model for a certain magazine. I wouldn't have bothered wrestling with a civvy relationship with a high maintenance girl if she wasn't a 9 or 10 in appearance.
Some of us just have a high testosterone level and want variety.
I second this! To me an 8 can be pretty darn good. To agree with some earlier posts I've met PS's that look better on camera than up close. Attitude also means something to some of us & I would take an 8 with a great attitude than an unpleasant 10 anyday. Some people like a girl next foot look. I will sign off before pissing some of you off too much, but sure you won't find many penthouse pets in DC. I still think it is a city with great providers.
Honestly, there is serious grade inflation re: appearance.
Most of the rated "8,9,10" ladies I have seen
in DC probably average 7.0 or a bit less.
And, I seek the best looking I can find.
I have seen some 9s and 10s, but few and far.
You're entitled to your rant. DC seems to be a very different market. Consideration has to be given to the fact that so many cities intersect the area so you don't have just a DC based set of providers.
Since I am new to this area I have noticed a modest base of what seem to be real professional providers. Alot of the ads look like girls just trying the business out and they aren't really sure what they are doing.
Being a mature provider I have found that I am in high demand for the middle aged men. My guess is they have their preferences just as you do.
Sorry you have experienced such bad luck.
But that's only obvious.
So if you live here and don't like what you see, maybe you should move, or vacation in LA or NYC often hahaha
And I agree with Beef, how many porn stars working as escorts are 10's? Seems to me once they past their prime in age and looks is when they start working outside of the porn industry.
I'm In town....
Come for coffee.
Kisses
Elle Vegas
+1000
I think that's just DC as a whole. Went to a bar on M Street last Saturday and I've never seen a bar filled with below average looking, flabby women. And what's funny/crazy-- these women actually thought they were hot. I went to undergrad out West and I can tell you, I've seen and experienced drop dead gorgeous. I've been trying my best to enter this hobby but I refuse to depart from my norms.
Seems to me to be a function of the nature of the economies of the places under discussion. LA - being the center of the movie industry (including porn) - places a premium on physical attributes. However, not all of the women who go to LA with dreams of fortune and fame are able to do so and, therefore, will look for alternative sources of income that value their assets, including the provision of escort services. DC - being a city of policy wonks - places a greater premium on intellectual attributes. I doubt any male reading this message is looking for deep discussions of energy policy or political-business cycles when seeking a provider. No, I do not believe that beauty and intelligence are mutually exclusive, but that such combinations are less likely in both DC and LA.