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PonderingMan 1670 reads
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I'm not going to name names because I'm not here to call anyone out, but I'm glad someone has confirmed what I read on this board many months ago.

Also check this link again:

http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=255365&boardID=1

The profile in question now has no reviews but before they were deleted, I recognized the reviewers as people who regularly reviewed the girls for this agency.

Now check out the links to the sites in question. I highly doubt it's just simple coincidence that they have the exact same girls, the exact same reviewers, and the exact same webpage layout. The whole thing just brings a level of dishonesty and after reading a6steve's post, I truly don't know what to think.

whaththefuck1464 reads

Unless Sue = Leah Dizon (Japanese American celebrity).... chances are, this Ad of hers is using Leah's photos.

http://www.tineye.com/search/7704f0eec1fd43237df6bc0b8ab0df2d3abc996a/

Ad on Cityvibe of Sue from Episode Erotic

http://eroticservices.cityvibe.com/escorts.php?do=view&p=1910483



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Related Link: http://www.tineye.com/search/7704f0eec1fd43237df6bc0b8ab0df2d3abc996a/

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Silent-one1232 reads

Here is current ad on Eros

http://www.eros-dc.com/files/211445.htm

And she has many reviews -
http://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/show.asp?id=154775
http://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/show.asp?id=165705


Related Link: http://www.eros-dc.com/files/211445.htm

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PonderingMan973 reads

The latest review for Sue is the same guy who distinctly said True Nicole and Hae Soo were two completely different peope.  This is what led me to be one and done with this agency.

Also they seem to have a reputation on the west coast too:

http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=255365&boardID=1

The reviewers in question deleted their profiles (but not before writing a review for Cho co in Washington DC) not to mention Hae Soo, who I presume is the madam of all these agencies, deleted her pictures from all the sites.

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Silent-one971 reads

You didn't link who reviewed and told you Nicole and Hae Soo were not the same. They are.

Hae Soo travels, like most providers, ponder how that.

Your assumption about Hae Soo being a Madam is hysterical to say the least. Not easy to run a busy and work providing at the same time.

I cannot figure out how you are making a connection to the west coast.

How do you know the reviewer deleted their profile? You work for TER?

Hae Soo and Cho Co are real. Sorry you have made a mountain out of a mole hill.

I would like you to post and call out the one who lied to you and his review.

I am I choose to use and alias like you, but that is my choice.

Take the reviews for what they are worth. They are not perfect. They are not always real. But if you have been around long enough you can get enough information from them to make a decision to see the provider, or not.

All those mentioned here are freelance providers who work for various agencies throughout the US.

Occasionally they skip the agency and find an assistant to help.

So ponder that.

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whaththefuck609 reads

boy have you completely misunderstood his post regarding truenicole...

I too have read the thread where some of us were suspecting if true nicole and haesoo were the same.
Towards the end, some prick then claimed, with "absolute certainty", that since he had seen "both" of them he is sure they are NOT the same girl....  This is what he was refering to.

A few weeks later, typing truenicole's url brought you straight to haesoo's web site. Lmao... now we know they are the same... But WTF was that poster taking about then?

I could be wrong, but I too felt that there might be some shill reviews too good to be true on her reviews. The same guy who lied about haesoo/truenicole gave Sue a 10.  Upon browsing other reviewer's other reviews sone of these guys who gave her a very high rating seem to see the same three or four girls from the same agency, exclusively... wtf!?  That says a lot right there.

Yet, some reviews  don't make any sense, two people posted really great reviews... yet gave her a 7... What the fk?

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Silent-one520 reads

I think you are talking about a discussion about Charlie and Tifani - http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=200785&boardID=6&page=

I wish you would point me to the thread or at least give up the name of who lied to you.

Every review is subjective - duh. Each reviewer sees and gets a different perspective of the lady he sees. Many common points are made about services and looks. It's easy to decide who to believe and who not to believe then make up your mind to take the plunge or not.

Hae Soo and Sue both have a long history of good reviews. Enough so to make a decision to see them or not. Are you so torn by all this BS you can't decide?

There are so many to choose from so not worry you won't miss a beat and they won't either.

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ConnectTheDots618 reads

a post from Sebori:

http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=184300&boardID=6&page=

Why anyone attached any cred to that post is beyond me but - I have some bridges for sale, PM for details!

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Silent-one1107 reads

Posted By: ConnectTheDots
a post from Sebori:

Why anyone attached any cred to that post is beyond me but - I have some bridges for sale, PM for details!
I agree. I am now wondering if the one who started this thread has any creds and how long he has been around. Maybe there is an agenda to discredit Sue or others.

What I think more is those who know how to use reviews and other information posted will make the choose to see her so I doubt she will miss a beat in her scheduling from all that's been said.

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PonderingMan1671 reads

I'm not going to name names because I'm not here to call anyone out, but I'm glad someone has confirmed what I read on this board many months ago.

Also check this link again:

http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=255365&boardID=1

The profile in question now has no reviews but before they were deleted, I recognized the reviewers as people who regularly reviewed the girls for this agency.

Now check out the links to the sites in question. I highly doubt it's just simple coincidence that they have the exact same girls, the exact same reviewers, and the exact same webpage layout. The whole thing just brings a level of dishonesty and after reading a6steve's post, I truly don't know what to think.

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Silent-one961 reads

I looked at the site, didn't see Hae Soo listed.

Hae Soo profile has 6 pages of review - so I guess they are all by shills or are fake yes?

http://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/show.asp?id=156101

I could not connect the dots (pun intended) to her having changed names, but it's possible. Is that so hard to believe or understand?

Is it so hard to believe or understand site similarity? Then look at all those who use escortsite.com or rareescorts.com Who knows if they were made by the same person or not, who really cares?

Sues, Hae Soo's,  profile and reviews are good enough to make a decision and choice to see them or not.

As far as Cho Co with only 3 reviews. I would go see her.

What I laugh about is all this over ladies who only charge 260.

I even doubt they are your type anyway.

As far as dishonesty, what's that saying? Someone else said it pretty good, if you think or expect those in this biz to be truthful all the time, wake up, your dreaming.

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coastcoaster644 reads

I agree with PonderingMan - I won't give my money to a company that is so blatant with their deception.

And I wonder about your motives also.  Let's take a look here.

1. Fake pictures - Check.  Proven by first post.
2. Fake reviews - Check.  Proven by link by PonderingMan.
3. Shills?  Check.  We have one guy who says True Nicole and Hae Soo are two completely different people which was an explicit lie.  And we also have one guy who says he gets discounts, teaches the girls, and advises the owner on how to run the business, writes a glowing mini and review for pretty much every girl there, and claims he is not a shill.

Cho Co has three reviews.  First is a good review.  Second is from aforementioned shill.  Third review says she isn't as good as the first two reviews would imply.  Based on these circumstances, your take is you "would go see her" and "who cares".

Well, I care, and I'm not going to knowingly allow myself to be deceived by fake pictures, fake reviews, and shills.

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Silent-one584 reads

He stood by these same principles but long ago he had a B&S come to his place didn't toss her into the street and later said he would see ladies from that group even though many times they use fake representational photo's.

I commend you for having principles. Many have principles like taking the comment by someone with one review and posting only 2 times to the discussion board serious.

Posted By: ConnectTheDots
a post from Sebori:

http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=184300&boardID=6&page=

Why anyone attached any cred to that post is beyond me but - I have some bridges for sale, PM for details!
So let me ask you, what are your feelings about those who have limited or not reviews and the same goes for posting to the discussion board?

Stand by your principles. But let me ask you, are Asian someone you would see anyway? I hope you are stronger than DB911 was when it comes to ads with fake or stolen pics and toss them to the street on principle, even if they are the HOTTEST thing you have ever seen.

Fortunately for me I have only had this happen to me once and I stood by principle of DB911.
I told the agency if it was not the one in the pic I would give her cab fare. She came, she was hot, she left with my 20 for cab fare.

But if I understand right when Sue came here long ago she had no pics so those who were supporting her used what they could and later changed her pics. I have met Sue, she is worth seeing. Am I a shill for suggesting that? Am I a shill to say I can understand the circumstances in most cases where a fake representational photo is used?

I appreciate DB911's contribution and honesty when he changed his principles and would see girls from that agency even though sometimes they are not real photo's. The fact is I feel the same way now.

As for "Who Care" It was about the similarity of websites. You feel you are owed or entitled to know if they are from the same person or agency?  Good Luck with that. I personally don't care who made the site and I would go see Cho Co.

But you don't have to, I'm sure they won't miss a beat in their schedule if you don't.

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PonderingMan509 reads

So let me get this straight...

One time you saw a hot girl, but you chose not to do anything with her because even though she was hot, the pictures were fake.

Then you saw Sue, who also has pictures are fake, but here you are much more understanding say you can understand the circumstances.

What's with the double standard?  Instead of attacking potential clients, claiming you won't miss a beat in your schedule, why don't you take a lesson in customer service instead?

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Silent-one1039 reads

That is exactly what I was saying. DB911 and I now have double standards. If we know and agency or see reviews that make it worth going sight unseen we will.

As for the only one I tossed out, I did so because I wanted to stand by principle, even though she was hot. Now I somewhat regret having done so, who knows, she might have been as outstanding as some of the others like Sue or the one DB911 saw. I will never know.

I don't understand what your point is when asking why I don't take a lesson in customer service? My point was even though some here won't see these girls because of principles others will and likely and enjoy there experience from the publicity it is getting here. Lets just hope they write reviews to contribute to TER for every ones benefit.

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PonderingMan782 reads

Exactly... I saw Nicole and she was nice, but if I wanted to see her again I would rather have it been by my choice, not through trickery with a combination of a name change (which I can understand) and someone on this board saying they are completely two different people (which I don't understand).

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PonderingMan759 reads

Now I have to wonder if I'm talking to another person who's being purposely disingenious.

Exact same site layouts, some even with the exact same color schemes and images, same girls, same reviewers who are mysteriously able to review the exact same girl on both coasts and claim the exact same girl is their brand new ATF three times.

You act as if you are so smart and mighty because of your ability to cull information, and yet you can't connect the dots?

You are so adamant to deny the facts and are equally adamant to talk about how great the girls are and how low their price is?

Choco's latest reviews says she isn't as good as the other reviews which just shows he was also misled by the earlier reviews. In fact, there was actually a fourth review which was by a reviewer who was suspected as writing fake reviews and it got mysteriously deleted.

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IvoryTower1089 reads

2nd link you provide is not for Sue.  Somehow the reviews on "S" now has Sue's name.

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Silent-one930 reads

This is S's profile

http://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/show.asp?ID=165705

Could be a mix up.

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IvoryTower1150 reads

Regardless, she is 9.5

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nyandnj781 reads

Isn't Episode Erotic is closed?

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AC_Pit_Boss879 reads

You could have updated her profile to say real photo "no" and you didn't mention it in your review either, but I see that you were "enamored"

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whaththefuck871 reads

cuz you gave sue a 10 not 9.5.

So which one of her (Sue) photos are real, or are they all stolen? the eros-dc photos, are they a very close resemblence of her?

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a6steve2237 reads

First, I am an admitted aficionado of Asians, so it's not surprising that many of my reviews are of Asians. In fact, in recent months I've traveled to Singapore and Hong Kong, and overdosed on Asian women but that's another story! I have a friendship with Episode Erotic, and was notified when a new woman showed up. I was often the first to see and review her, but I am not a shill. I have found their quality to be uniformly high, and write reviews accordingly. Not that long ago I saw one of theirs whom I found was not GFE. I did not write a mediocre review, but arranged to see her again, at a reduced rate, and "taught her" how to deliver a GFE. Her subsequent reviews were good.

With regard to the pix, EE was often in a hurry to post pix and used stolen pix, but at least tried for representative pix. I told her that it was a bad idea and educated her about Tineye - she didn't know. The CityVibe ad is old, and those are indeed stolen. The Eros-DC "index" pic is the one you write about, and that's obviously not Sue either. But the new pix on her Eros page were taken last Friday and are indeed her!

Lastly, I never said that True Nicole and Hae Soo are different women; I know better and don't know who  provided that answer. Someone asked recently if Charlie and Tifani are the same woman and I answered no confidently - I've seen Charlie and used to see Tifani a lot.

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NotaShillWTF1036 reads

Posted By: a6steve
I have a friendship with Episode Erotic, and was notified when a new woman showed up. I was often the first to see and review her, but I am not a shill. I have found their quality to be uniformly high, and write reviews accordingly. Not that long ago I saw one of theirs whom I found was not GFE. I did not write a mediocre review, but arranged to see her again, at a reduced rate, and "taught her" how to deliver a GFE. Her subsequent reviews were good.

EE was often in a hurry to post pix and used stolen pix, but at least tried for representative pix. I told her that it was a bad idea and educated her about Tineye - she didn't know.

Lastly, I never said that True Nicole and Hae Soo are different women; I know better.  Someone asked recently if Charlie and Tifani are the same woman and I answered no confidently - I've seen Charlie and used to see Tifani a lot.
I can't help myself since you have declared 'I am not a shill'  You announce you have a friendship with the agency, are notified when a new woman is coming and the first to review her. You even 'arranged' to see an unnamed lady at a reduced rate to 'teach her' how to deliver a GFE?  Also you advise the agency owner on how she was not running her business correctly and 'educated her'.  But you are not a shill?   Maybe you are not, in trying to make yourself look so important you did the agency no favors by saying they often used stolen pics, or by saying True Nicole and Hae Soo are one and the same, even TER would be very unhappy to confirm that you actually do 'know better'.

Now that you mention Charlie, her reviews are where a shill is suspect.  The first reviewer gives a 9 in performance and she did all these WOW things to him.  Then all her next 4 reviews are sad, downright poor.  The last hobbyist was very generous in giving her a 7, but in reading (for VIPs) his experience sucked too, lol. She even tells him she has been in DC before, no wonder she changed her name.  Shame she did not give you the same poor performance as the ones after you, you could have arranged for a discount to go back and 'teach her' how to properly fuck the other poor hobbyists who left so disappointed:)  

Who knows, maybe it is all a coincidence and all innocent, but I will certainly wait for a few more reviews before seeing someone.
Related Link: http://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/show.asp?id=167657

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whaththefuck710 reads

Or maybe Charlie was just too exhausted after her first appointment with a 'big-reviewer' village stud? LOL

From a 9 to a 3.... then a generous 7.

Things that make ya go Hmmmmmmmmmm

DuskMonger   7 - Attractive / 7 - Hot time
firstdibs    7 - Attractive / 3 - Barely worth the effort
Toomuch Fun  8 - Really Hot / 6 - Nice Time
golf1953     8 - Really Hot / 5 - Average
a6steve     8 - Really Hot / 9 - Forgot it was a service

http://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/show.asp?ID=160262&pnotes=1

Related Link: http://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/show.asp?ID=160262&pnotes=1

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ConnectTheDots1090 reads

why they updated their site to explain the Sue pic.  Further, the eros ad for Sue uses the same phone number as E2. And, from memory, E2 used to proudly proclaim on their site that 'all photo's were real and recent.'

Then again, anyone expects straight dealing in this game is a fool.



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ConnectTheDots734 reads

the photo which replaced the offending photo on Sue's eros ad is one previously used by a now retired provider, so it is unlikely it is 'real or recent' either, but probably can't be tin eyed.  (I didn't bother to try.)  Happy  Fugly?

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Fugly903 reads

Are people that follow the rules here.  The ones that don't suffer the consequences.

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ConnectTheDots1137 reads

of providers who have been delisted or banned, so how is a hobbyist to know?  Should we all PM you first before ever using a providers name in a board post to make sure we are not violating rules?

I try to play by the rules, and for you to insinuate otherwise is just plain wrong.

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Fugly621 reads

You don't know. That is why I edited your post rather than take it down.

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ConnectTheDots671 reads

simply 'asterisk out' the name of the delisted provider, but allow the point of the post to remain.

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Silent-one533 reads

When commenting on a provider I like to post links to their ads, websites, and reviews. I just searched for her reviews and found her information was no longer available, meaning, delisted.

All of those who have been banned or delisted have had at one time or another a TER profile.

The problem I see with many posts comes when the poster fails to provide links to back up their information.

If you do a search for a provider and get this "Provider information is no longer available on TER. " That is someone you are not allowed to discuss.

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Fugly809 reads

I've discussed this with funtimes61 and he and I both agree to beat this horse any more is inhumane. It's time to move on.

THIS THREAD IS NOW CLOSED

Fugly

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