So almost every lady who mentions gratuities/tipping on her website/ad, says "Tipping is not required, but greatly appreciated." However, there might be a few instances where tipping would be required if a gentleman would like a lady he visits with to keep him in high esteem.  

After a pow wow with a few lady friends, here are some examples we came up with of such instances.  

Late Night/Early Morning Visits - This is especially true for independent ladies. Everyone needs sleep so staying up into or getting up in the wee hours of morning (between 12 midnight and 6/7AM) cuts into that precious beauty sleep we ladies need to be gorgeous for you.  

Tardy Arrivals or Last minute changes - Let's say you made plans to visit with a lady at 1PM, and at 12:30pm, you call her to push it back to 2PM. Now this may not be an issue for her schedule, but one should be appreciative of her flexibility. As with any business time is money. I am sure you hate how much the cable guys says he's coming at 3, only to call at 2:40 (if he calls at all) to say he'll be there at 4PM.  

Last Minute Cancellations - Things happen, we all know this, but if a gentleman must change with short notice (I would say 3 or less hours. Others would say more or less time), the next time he visits with said lady a small token to show his gratitude, for her graciousness and not making a big deal out of it, would be an appropriate gesture.  

Rush Hour Outcalls - This is especially true if a lady arrives at or before the scheduled time. The DC area is now ranked #1 in the worst traffic congestion, so I (and other smart ladies) know if we want to get to a location across town we need to plan ahead and give ourselves plenty of grace time. This might mean leaving as early at 4PM for a 5PM appointment to travel a distance that usually takes only 20 minutes. Be mindful of the extra time she is spending to fit around your schedule, and to be on time.  

Special Requests Outfits/Items - I'm not talking about thigh highs or lace, as most ladies have these items in our lingerie collections. However, your requests for latex outfits, special costumes (cheerleader/french maid), or a special kind of wine or snack not shown or described on her website. A lady might need to purchase such an item for your time together as such an item may be a little unorthodox.  

Last Minute Appointments - Again, this is probably more applicable for independent ladies. We all have schedules and priorities. If you call a lady, ask for an appointment within the hour, and it seems she might have things to do, but is flexible with you, show your appreciation.  

Extended/Over Time Appointments - Now at the end of your scheduled visit time, the two of you might still be in the "middle" of something. A lot ladies never complain and are gracious hosts. Extra time is given for "wrapping up", chatting, showers, etc. without complaint. Tipping here is most appropriate.  

Wardrobe Malfunctions/Mishaps - In the middle of the excitement sometimes a gentleman can rip/tear part of a lady's outfit, or tip over a lamp. Most places have a "If you break it, you buy it" policy, but I have yet to see a lady with such a policy. It would be nice if a mindful gentleman who might have damaged a lady's property, helps in its replacement.  

 
I am sure there are more instances. Perhaps you can name a few

Kisses,  
Vanica

The proceeding has been a Escort Community PSA. Enjoy!!!!  

 

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Your posts are well written and accurate to many subjects!!!    

Hope to see you sometime soon gorgeous!  

LDL

We will do happy hour soon. I know a great place!

Kisses Kisses!!!!

If you feel like those are extra put on your price menu on your site. That way you can feel you are getting your worth. I think it comes tacky demanding a tip at the end imho.

Vanica! Such a well-written, practical post! Guys take notes!  

It would be an absolute pleasure to do happy hour with two beauties like you! First round on me?

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A lady would need to have an pretty extensive list of rates/fees for all of this

Early Morning appts - Add on $50, Rush Hour appointments, add on $30. If you are more than 15 minutes late, add on $50.  

It's probably best to keep rates straightforward and simple on one's website. Otherwise it gets confusing.  

As well, no one is demanding a tip, I simple stated instances where tipping is most appropriate. As always it is up to the client.  

Kisses,  
Vanic

Your pricing already requires folks to use algebra to figure out the specials some times. You can post something about those special scenarios.

....make you feel that you deserve a tip, or more, make this known on your site.  Please keep in mind, that when I am in DC, I never visit with more than one gentleman per day, and when I travel, never more than three.

   For instance, I never begin a date later than 8:00 PM, and rarely before noon, unless the gentleman is a dear friend, or a new friend who is willing to forward a deposit.

   Traffic.  If a lady chooses to accept an outcall date, she should know that a twenty minute drive, might take an hour; ask for a travel fee if you feel you should be compensated for travel time.

   This past week, I had a delightful gentleman, reserve two dates with me.  The first, he had to change from three hours to two, and the next morning, two to one and a half, because of meetings.  It never crossed my mind, that he should tip, or compensate me for hours lost, but he did leave me generous tip the second day.  Even if he did not, I would still see him again.  

   I could go on, but I think you get the idea.  Stuff happens.........

Hugs and Kisses,
Kelly

LOL

I love smart men. I should put some algebra or even calculus in there... It would turn me on to find a guy who could knows his way around an  abacus.

My specials are percentages off. This requires multiplication or fractions. If you have trouble ask any women who shops at department stores and I bet she'd be able to figure out 20% (one fifth) off the top her head easy.  

Or you can just ask me.

 
Kisses,  
Vanica

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And what I mean by this, is that according to the way I'm reading it, Vanica has given an opinion in form of a suggestion...  
Why do I feel that other readers are taking her post as a demand/rule???  

Am I naive??? or everyone else is too sensitive???  

 
Just curious...  

LDL

I would most certainly compensate the lady for her troubles above and beyond her required rate..

And I try to avoid most of the aforementioned things when I hobby.

That being said, I object to the word "deserve", and would have much preferred that you used the word "appreciate".. The former screams of entitlement mentality and is quite representative of whats happening in our society as a whole...

Just scroll a few posts below and read the thread on "Take me to the concert...."

As far as Algebra goes, do you know the exact formula to solve any quadratic equation....

No you can't Google it..

Like the say the intergral

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    fn  = sex. Lol.

Your posts are always on the money! And I agree, there is nothing better than a smart man!!!

Respectfully yours
Bailey (your number 1 groupie)

I find it funny, that instead of JUST reading the post as it is and understanding why the tip might be appropriate. Too many are taking the time to dissect the entire wording under a microscope!
You may not like the word used, but isn't the gist of the message clear and accurate? Yes, some folks are totally sensitive!! I love the message!!!!

make a big deal over everything. always the same ones too.

literal with every post.  

No one hardly ever asks they just assume.  

(like you're about to do)

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The most forceful language I used was "would be an appropriate gesture", "Tipping here is most appropriate," and "MIGHT be a few instances where tipping would be required if a gentleman would like a lady he visits with to keep him in high esteem."

My last sentence being the most suggestive, but not as to tipping, but just in the sense of if you value a lady and the extra trouble/time she may have given you on a certain occasion (not even every occasion), tipping shows her you noticed, you appreciate it and do not take her for granted.  

Someone below said they would have preferred the word "deserve" not had been used. I read my post over and over, and I never used that word or even a synonym of the word. I have no idea where that came from?

Oh well, darling...  

Kisses,  
Vanic

Like Yoko said..

Required is a mandate...Deserved is a little less strong a word and only constitutes a mentality of entitlement..

So, which do you prefer?

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or cannot handle common sense.

Straightforward gentlemen would not find anyting amiss in Vanica's opinion here.

(No PMs, not VIP.)

I think it reasonable to "require" compensation for damages. But for work related schedule changes "appreciate" compensation of loss of opportunity and time costs would be good.

I said "might be a few instances where tipping would be required...to keep him in high esteem." Or in other words, he tips her as to be looked upon with highest favor. Not required to see him. Not demanded. Not even expected.  

In fact, the fact he does it without her expectation, or demand is what makes it such a valuable gesture. It is a "thank you" for whatever misstep or mishap may have happened.  

No one can make another person tip them. If it were a requirement, then that then changes from a "tip" to a "rate." Right?  

 
Kisses,  
Vanica

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This statement is not the same as saying a client is mandated to do something.  

I always tip my hair stylist, but when I'm late, I tip more, not b/c she REQUIRES it, but b/c I know that it's only human nature that subconsciously it's more likely she'll accept future bookings from me over someone else, if I don't come off as an entitled jerk who doesn't show appreciation for her flexibility and wasted time,,,,it's like a subconscious mental requirement of some sort. I like to stay in good graces w/ those I do business, so that they'll want to continue doing business w/ me & not see me as a pain in the ass client

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It was a $200 negligée. There was a loud rip as he tore the shoulder strap. He was overly excited during the heat of the moment.

He didn't tip me, but it would've been a nice gesture.

Now I tend not to wear more expensive lingerie on dates,,,or slow down any heat of the moment action until I have a chance to remove my undergarments on my own.

Very nice post, Vanica. I thought your choice of words was respectful, and perfect for any man not overanalyzing this basic courtesy.

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In some cases, it's not practical to mention as a rate. You can only hope a man understands common courtesy and leaves a tip as a gesture of goodwill.

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...... and HE didn't tip you?! I am already through lol smh.  

You need to see all the side-eye I am giving right now. *fans self furiously*

in context it makes better sense. Thanks for correcting my "correction".

BTW I trust you at calculus, no tests required.

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him know it's proper to tip or replace it. I didn't say anything b/c he was paying for a dinner date, but later I realized that no matter how long he booked, the replacement shouldn't have to come out of my fee. live and learn...but damn! lol

Some women like a strong powerful guy like that (protection and great lover).

used to tip very well, but I realized  after a while some of these ladies  
just think they are entitled to it.  

Lack of appreciation, law of  dimishing returns.  

I still tip some ladies who provide exceptional service.
But for the rest, why waste the fucken money

My responses are in quotation marks.  

Late Night/Early Morning Visits - This is especially true for independent ladies. Everyone needs sleep so staying up into or getting up in the wee hours of morning (between 12 midnight and 6/7AM) cuts into that precious beauty sleep we ladies need to be gorgeous for you.  

 
"This is a matter of choice for the lady, why should we be expected to tip a lady for late night or early morning appointment if she has agreed to take the appointment in the first place.  She can always just say no. "  
 

Tardy Arrivals or Last minute changes - Let's say you made plans to visit with a lady at 1PM, and at 12:30pm, you call her to push it back to 2PM. Now this may not be an issue for her schedule, but one should be appreciative of her flexibility. As with any business time is money. I am sure you hate how much the cable guys says he's coming at 3, only to call at 2:40 (if he calls at all) to say he'll be there at 4PM.  

"Ok I can see this one, but here is the question, what discount to you ladies offer if you make a guy wait out in his car for an hour or so. Do you hand him 25% back because of you made him wait.  
 

Last Minute Cancellations - Things happen, we all know this, but if a gentleman must change with short notice (I would say 3 or less hours. Others would say more or less time), the next time he visits with said lady a small token to show his gratitude, for her graciousness and not making a big deal out of it, would be an appropriate gesture.  
 
"Same thing,  what discount to do you offer when, a gentlemen has taking  ½ a vacation day or move his day around to make time to see you, then you cancel on him.  What discount do you give him as you have wasted his day?  As you said “time is money” that applies to both parties."
 

Rush Hour Outcalls - This is especially true if a lady arrives at or before the scheduled time. The DC area is now ranked #1 in the worst traffic congestion, so I (and other smart ladies) know if we want to get to a location across town we need to plan ahead and give ourselves plenty of grace time. This might mean leaving as early at 4PM for a 5PM appointment to travel a distance that usually takes only 20 minutes. Be mindful of the extra time she is spending to fit around your schedule, and to be on time.  
 
"Isn’t this what a travel fee covers? Looks like you’re trying to double dip"
 

Special Requests Outfits/Items - I'm not talking about thigh highs or lace, as most ladies have these items in our lingerie collections. However, your requests for latex outfits, special costumes (cheerleader/french maid), or a special kind of wine or snack not shown or described on her website. A lady might need to purchase such an item for your time together as such an item may be a little unorthodox.  

"I think this falls under the category of cost of doing business, Do you tip a plumber or electrician because he brought his tools of the trade with him? I don’t think so.  You tip him or her on the good job that they did.

 
Last Minute Appointments - Again, this is probably more applicable for independent ladies. We all have schedules and priorities. If you call a lady, ask for an appointment within the hour, and it seems she might have things to do, but is flexible with you, show your appreciation.  

"This one is perfectly understandable."
 

Extended/Over Time Appointments - Now at the end of your scheduled visit time, the two of you might still be in the "middle" of something. A lot ladies never complain and are gracious hosts. Extra time is given for "wrapping up", chatting, showers, etc. without complaint. Tipping here is most appropriate.  

"Most ladies plan on this ahead of time, but if the guy is goes over a set time yes a tip should be given."
 

Wardrobe Malfunctions/Mishaps - In the middle of the excitement sometimes a gentleman can rip/tear part of a lady's outfit, or tip over a lamp. Most places have a "If you break it, you buy it" policy, but I have yet to see a lady with such a policy. It would be nice if a mindful gentleman who might have damaged a lady's property, helps in its replacement.  

"Without question if you damage or destroy something, you should cover the cost of replacing it."  

 
I think your going to post any thing on etiquette, both side should be represented, not just one

...are there then cases where less money should be accepted by the lady?  

What if there was zero hassle and zero traffic doing outcall and free parking?  

What if the gent brought a gift?  

What about a last minute appoitment on a day you would have made nothing that day?  

What if he said "wear whatever you wish. Come casual if you want with no makeup?"

Shouldnt it be a two way street Vanica

If the ladies think they should be expecting some kind of compensation or tipping for things as mentioned in the OP, then it's only right for the guys to have similar expectations too.

I am not a sensitive person at all, but I don't like to feel that I am maybe being nickel and dimed by a provider, Or any woman,  think that is a big turn off for some guys, at least for me.  Just try to be cool and gracious, both guys and ladies.  It would make you more attractive.

Charge what you want and don't expect a tip. You charge. We pay. No feelings hurt. Your comment would totally NOT make me want to see you.

My point of view, on this topic suggests an inquiry into Opportunity Lost.  Usually, both parties suffer from delays - the Girl's schedule is affected and she suffers a real economic loss - or visa versa - the Gent is cramped and he feels rushed out door. That economic reality should be recognized, but not to the point of effecting the Mood the encounter. Likewise, where the Lady is late, the Gents schedule is compromised and he may lose money making his next appointment, or worse he may - have to cancel a client because she was late.

So lets - all of us - renew our commitment - to make an extra effort to fully appreciate the old adage, "time is money" for both Parties to the love fest.

Personally for me, I will gladly Tip Extra - where Iam made to feel - really Special. Like, ladies who offer to pose for me so I may take a few iPhone photos or say, "its Ok to film this if you promise to keep it to yourself."
 
That, assures a very special "Tip" - I policy I would like to see more of

This is not an "equal" business. Guys pay. Ladies provide time and companionship.

Vanica (and LDL) - you are spot on. Sorry that some are nit-picking your words, but the basics are there. It is a shame that you have to post this, evidently because there are cheap assholes out there that try to minimize their expenses rather than maximize their return on investment. And time with a lady is an investment indeed. From my experience, a little extra in the envelope goes a long way to great repeat experiences.

In my business you tip routinely if you expect good service, or if the service provider (waiter, provider, taxi driver, etc.) provided excellent service. If they went out of their way (late/early, special requests) then the tip becomes more important. Also, if you expect return business, you should tip significantly.

I have no problem with your post and would prefer to see you because of your honesty

I do not have a lot of money at all and I say if you can't afford it then don't go out. SERIOUSLY!

One always tips for a personal service and I can't imagine a more personal service.

I have been very fortunate that though I am anything but an attractive man I have always been treated very well, with respect and even kindness, exactly how I treat and think of the ladies.

I have yet to have a bad experience and TIPPING is a way to say thank you for the great service.

I believe at a restaurant I have perhaps stiffed three waiters in my entire life and things have to be pretty horrible for that to happen, I was a waiter at one time.

You say charge what they want and don't expect a tip. You are a real class act. I sure hope you don't get bonuses. If you have money, you are even a bigger lowlife.

I have yet to encounter a low class escort but if I met you, I am sure that I would find you to be an individual without class or style.

I am very grateful for the escorts because without them I would have no chance of being with women of their caliber. As to character, they seem to be very good people and fine human beings. Thank God for them and I bet it can be a very hard profession with some asshole clients.

It is ridiculous that this is not legal activity.

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In general I agree with Vanica.  If you are late and you get the full time a tip is appropriate, if you have to cancel at the last minute some gesture the next time you see the Lady is only right (in fact I might even advise her I'll do something to make up for the cancellation at the time I cancel).  If you destroy something (unless you advised in advance that you'd like to do that so the lady can wear a garment she doesn't care about) you should take care of it.  The only item I disagree with is the idea that one should compensate for heavy traffic.  

Just my two cents.

Hey Beautiful! I don't recall my ever having deducting your discounts. this could be largely associated with my inability to add/subtract let alone percentages and fractions. Hell, I had to google "abacus"! But you will be please to know that although I am unable to conceive the words required to put a sentence together, clearly articulating the most simplest of thoughts, I did pass the GED...the second time! Muah!

LDL,
Once again Vanica has successfully disarmed us with her intellect and charm. Gets me every time!

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I am so sure that all the ladies would sleep with you for free because you are a "real man" and a great guy. I wish I could see what they say about you! What? You don't give a fuck? Why am I not surprised?

"GREAT REAL MAN, WOULD PAY TO BE WITH HIM, KNOWS HOW TO HANDLE US BITCHES."

LMFAO!

"I DON'T TIP AND I DEMAND TOP PERFORMANCE BECAUSE I AM A BADASS, REAL MAN!"

I wonder if even your mommy loves you? Nah, mommies have a clue unlike you.

So you are a real man? Nah, the public are full with fucking assholes like you and you are definitely a big one. Just a wannabee. I am sure you are just special and important!

And you are really brave to hide behind an alias. All talk but don't want the ladies to know who you really are or thy might not take you on as a client, scared, CHEAP bitch!

You don't know what real guts and courage are nor what a real man is. Keep pretending!

Vanica,
You can have all the churches money Mami! I would sell oranges off the exit ramp to compensate you. "High esteem?" Who needs it! What I DO need is that thing that you do! Muah!

a provider if they had "instances where tipping would be required if a gentleman would like a lady he visits with to keep him in high esteem" hence one of the few reasons I haven't made the call...

I.E  

- Late Night/Early Morning Visits - Unless you are an early riser or a night owl, I would not see you at those times... makes no sense if its not a time you are usually up and energized.. why tip if you know they aren't "up" for it normally? (myth busted)

- Tardy Arrivals or Last minute changes - This has also happened on the reverse, I never get a discount or consideration when they are late or have last minute changes, but if I ever was late (I can't recall when I ever was but I am sure I have been 5-15 min late sometime) I would leave at the time I was originally scheduled, so no need to tip as I kept her on schedule.. (myth busted)

- Rush Hour Outcalls - sorry you can decline if you think its not worth the drive... just as you say "if we want to get to a location across town we need to plan ahead and give ourselves plenty of grace time. This might mean leaving as early at 4PM for a 5PM appointment to travel a distance that usually takes only 20 minutes. Be mindful of the extra time she is spending to fit around your schedule, and to be on time".... (head tilted sideways with a duh look on my face) this is what all us Dudes have to do not just at 5pm, if you don't leave tysons by 2pm-3pm you will never make BWI by 4pm... so most "Dudes" deal with this for almost every appointment.. (myth busted)

- Special Requests Outfits/Items - If this is the case, I usually bring it with me because most providers are not providing from their homes... and because I bring it with me, its usually left there with them at the conclusion... (i.e. a Gift) - (myth busted)

- Last Minute Appointments - how do we know what your schedule is? how do we know its last minute unless you tell us "it seems she might have things to do" (which if you do, I would gladly decline as I don't want a half ass or rush time) again this all goes back to you can decline, its not a given... (myth busted)  

- Extended/Over Time Appointments - never happens with me ever, and if I want to say longer I usually throw down the appropriate fee for the additional time (i.e 60min goes to 90min goes to 2 hrs) If a dude stays longer than what your time allows, then its your fault for not saying "sweetie, we are almost out of time, would you like to stay longer?" - this is the one thing I absolutely hate providers complaining about, grow a set and tell them, stop saying its a problem when you have the solution - also "A lot ladies never complain and are gracious hosts" how would you know, are you there for "a lot" of ladies encounters? or just going on one sided info? (myth busted)  

- Wardrobe Malfunctions/Mishaps - unscripted, I have had buttons ripped from my dress shirts (did I ask for a tip to repair?)... if you have clothing that gets damaged, I am sorry but that is the cost of doing business... do you pay my dry cleaning bill if you spill something on me? I have yet to meet a provider who wore high end lingerie (unless I provided it)... also anything from VS is crap and will fall apart in a week...  I am at a customer site and my clothing gets damaged from an accident its on me to repair or replace my "work clothes"... (for me this myth is busted, but I can see how if a dude damaged something and didn't offer a replacement would not give you high regard for him to re-visit)