$50-$100???? The same girl you could see for $350 in 2005-2010 is 1k or more in most circumstances.
I have been a member since 2002. I'm still fairly young "under 40" started very young. Escorting has changed along with everything else. Which I guess is to be expected. I'm not sure if the tipping point was the bill being passed, Covid, or the shutdown of TER. I remember the days of 20+ new ads everyday on the boards. The days where the scores provider's were given were next to life or death. To the point of providers giving discounts or offering extra time to guarantee that magical 10. If you spent $500 hourly on a lady she was a unicorn with impeccable reviews that matched the service. So many new providers now insist on no reviews "for privacy". Come out of the gate with no experience with a 1k+ hourly rate. The few reviews that do slip through it turns out many of these ladies don't even offer gfe services at their astronomical rates and carry an average score of 7. Maybe there is a new generation of gents who just don't know any better. The hunt is now for the diamond in the rough. I was never one to be a regular and enjoyed the variety of the hobby. Unfortunately that's not substantial in 2022. I was lucky enough to find a couple diamonds in the rough, they are still out there. It just takes so much more work and a roll of the dice to find them. Don't get this confused with me implying ladies didn't need to increase their rates with the current state of inflation. That's not what this is about. Gentleman you don't need to pay 1k hourly for great service. I guess this is rant over, but have been wanting to get this off my chest for a long time. For the hobbyists who don't know any better......... it can and was so much better in the past.
Not amusing in the slightest. I pretty much have to agree, and it's depressing. Twenty years ago the conditions were much more favorable for the hobbyist. Agencies from South Florida were dispatching gorgeous women in droves to travel up and down the Northeast coast. It was a dazzling time to be a monger. Then the feds busted those agencies, and the well began to dry up a bit. A local private viewing agency that served me well for fifteen years changed hands five years ago, and has been run by a maniac ever since. She's still there.
You didn't have to present a mug shot selfie holding up your driver's licence to get screened, and deposits were not required. The prices were a bit more reasonable, although hobbying was never cheap by any means. Providers are now trying to squeeze as much as they can out of the pain to glory ratio with 2 hour minimums and four digit fees. Deep dive research, and comparative shopping is the monger's best defense in these troubled times.
I understand and agree with the rant. But I disagree on the price you put.
It is the market economy. In fact, I applaud them for the price they get or ask, for little value (my perspective, not fact). It makes every business sense to get paid to sleep, travel, eat, shop and surf. Why not?
Cliche: Price is what you pay, value is what you get.
You on the other hand have looked at the value you want. Patronize, promote, enjoy the diamonds in the rough. Pat yourself for being smart.
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Since covid-19 pandemic hit demand has gone up for provider services and supply has gone down of providers. Also, many hobbyists are getting mega pay raises (salary floors are 200K in the dc area) and don't mind pay higher prices. Many providers have had to raise their prices because phone is ringing too much.
The other thing not mentioned viz Covid is the normalization and popularity of other sx work platforms like Onlyfans. Many talented women are making lots of money (in some cases significantly more than escorting ). While it’s different work it can provide steady recurring income and clearly there is big demand.
Agree with both of these replies and would add that I think the prevalence of remote work plays a role in driving up demand--easier than ever to slip away for a couple of hours during the week for a "long lunch" or whatever, esp when you can keep up with email via phone all the while.
I offer a service that many do not. I agree anyone can open their legs but can they do real Nuru?
From one 20yr + to another, you are spot on. Heck anyone remember Big Doggie??
This is not a criticism of anyone but there are folks out there who value the lack of information and leverage that to take advantage of new and uneducated mongers. Sorry to all but it's a fact.
Just as there are different services, there are different levels of service. Add in SA and it's a whole new ballgame!
Point is ... keep your head on a swivel and do your homework!
I remember BigDoggie and before that Decadent City.
Same! Remember those days along with DCexotics and the surplus of top notch PV providers!
Wow, those sites bring back memories!!
I appreciate the post Boondocks, and I generally agree. I have a related question: Why is this DC discussion board so dead? Not that I monitor other regional discussion boards, so they may be dead as well. I don’t know back to 2002, but I remember this board in 2010-2015 timeframe being very active.
After the down time for TER due to FOSTA the discussion and reviews have been very slow to come back. The impact from COVID and slowdown in activity was also a factor I suspect.
Honestly, this isn’t even a discussion board anymore. It’s all about the hookup. I did a post a few months back titled: ‘Discussion Board or Hookup Board’ and only got a few replies, which really says it all. I occasionally check to see if there is any interesting conversation or discussions going on, and its usually the same BS. Also, if you notice very few quality Providers contribute any content to this board anymore, unlike before during the Glory Days. I don’t expect it to ever be like that again. It’s a new day, and pretty sad when it comes to intelligent discussion content on this board.
STI - search for TER(estrical) Intelligence? It's in a race with SETI to see who finds intelligence first.
Maybe not that bad but not like before, I agree. A new type of unicorn to seek out?
A few remarks after nine years of doing this.
1. There are many ladies who do not post ads on TER anymore. I know at least 8-10 who used to post regularly requested their profile removed around 2018-2019. They now only advertise on their Twitter account and they are more than booked.
2. Pricing is just that - pricing. Let's be serious. We're talking about sex. The most intimate thing you can do with another person. I don't mind paying good amount for quality. In fact, I prefer it over quantity. If I wanted to just cum I'd do it myself. This isn't to say all ladies should get what they are asking for, but if the market defines it you can't argue it. I regularly see ladies who require $500-$600 an hour. A few times I've seen ladies who are $1000 an hour. I just did in May in Vegas.
3. The industry is different. There are way more agencies now than say even four years go. There are more ladies from out of the country than ever: Asians, Latinas, etc.
4. I also miss the days when I could visit TER and read every single lady who was visiting my city. But, that's no longer the case. Most independents won't advertise here. It's sad, but I receive many of their touring emails and they are always booked so there is no reason for them to advertise here.
5. COVID also changed many things. Everything costs more including the risk of getting sick. Flight, hotel, etc are all more. We're no longer in 2017-2019. It's a new era of economy.
In the end, understand what we're paying for. It's not a box off a shelf at the local grocery store.
Agreed on everything but #5. After hobbying for 20 years, I've noticed less agencies. I remember something like a dozen different agencies that included a number from South Florida, and at least one from Vegas that flew providers into my area. The Feds eventually busted the Florida agencies, while others folded, and all that remains are a few local agencies. Not dismal now, but not great as it once used to be.
I'm sorry I meant #3.
I am talking about Washington DC not other areas. In this area there are WAY more agencies now than in 2018/2019. Back then there were around 4-5 in the Northern Virginia. Now, I can count 8 off the top of my head and I know I'm leaving a few out. Add in the independents who tour here and there's plenty of volume. Only difference is type of ladies.
The change I've noticed since COVID is there are far less young, American providers touring in DC.
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Ever since COVID, almost all of the girls I've seen have been from South America or Asia. I *love* South American and Asian girls, so that's not a complaint -- just an observation. But back before COVID, I also routinely saw young American providers who would visit DC. (By young I mean in their 20s.)
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It seems like most of the American providers in town now are all older. I have nothing but respect for older providers and the hobbyist who patronize them, but they're not my preference.
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I'm a customer of the agency Jennifer's Models. Pre-COVID, I saw tons of younger American girls through them. Post-COVID, I don't remember Jenn advertised an American.
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I guess America has outsourced the jobs of sucking your dick for a few roses to South American and Asia.
I depend on reviews when i purchase items on line like my $29 slow cooker. It's red. Things were slow for me as for everyone during the pandemic. I did not lower my rates and I made it.
I would not spend a $1,000 on anything with out having an idea of what i was getting.
Anyone who has any recipes that are easy to make in a slow cooker please feel free to send them to me. I like shell fish
thank you
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Just checked your reviews, and you seem like one hell of a slow cooker. 😈
Well, I just started lately, so I don’t know any different. I do understand based on other hobbies and interests. Just be glad you had those years. Slow cooking short ribs is da bomb, btw, with bulgogi sauce. Sorry I’m missing you in Tysons, Ms. Dare.
We had TGND, Prime DC, Classy Escorts, and Elite Girlfriends that consistently brought good-looking White American girls that performed excellent GFE. Plus, the agencies in South Florida also sent their hotties up here every week (I still get emails from Perfect Ten, but their girls are all Latinas now). That was the golden days of mongering. I remember seeing two or three girls a week. It was like a kid in a candy store. Those were the days. Now I see K-girls once in a while and that's about it.
Asianmannova 100% agree. What happened to the White American girls? Can barely find them now. Have they all moved to a new cash level. It is pretty much all Asian and Latinas now. I really miss those days. Those were such good agencies, PrimeDC, Elite Girlfriends Club, Blue Flame escorts, south Florida escorts etc.
This is going to be the unpopular opinion/post that goes all over the place, but fuck it.
Every few months a thread like this gets started reminiscing about the golden days of yore, and how there are no more unicorns and the prices now are crazy.
I agree, there was almost an embarrassment of riches as far as the agencies mentioned by Asianmannova 10 - 15 years ago.
Prices were $300 or under for an hourlong GFE session with white/“American” providers (you guys know Asian and Latina providers can be American too, right?).
But let me ask you this: How much were you making 15 years ago?
Since I dared to pose the question, I’ll answer it. I was making about $48,000 before overtime and bonuses. Now I’m making north of $125K.
I’m not saying this to brag, I’m making a point. My income has gone up allowing me to afford the rate increases. Back then I was hitting up Craigslist and Backpage girls at $150 a HH, $300, maybe $350 for an hour.
But as my income has increased, so has my expenses…as have EVERYONE else’s, to INCLUDE working girls.
15 years is a long time, and the cost of living has gone up, especially in the DMV. The only women that can afford to offer an hour for under $400 are women who are coming from countries where the US dollar they bring home is worth more. There are a few “American” providers in the price range that people are pining for, but mostly providers touring from flyover states (not shitting on the flyover states). Case in point:
https://www.meetkaydenkarter.com/RATES
She visited a few months ago. I didn’t see her because her screening was too stringent, but’s that’s her prerogative, and I don’t fault a woman looking out for her safety.
Tiffany Teigen used to live in NOVA. She has since relocated to Ohio, but tours her occasionally. Her hourly rate used to be $350. She’s since increased to $450. Good for her.
This is the only industry where a woman can determine her own worth. More power to them.
If I see a hot provider with rates above $600 an hour, I say “wow, good luck” and move on. I don’t spew some misogynistic shit about “Golden Pussy Syndrome”.
Your post confirms what I have heard from providers back in 2005. I remember one that I saw had the gall to call up other providers and tell not to under charge, to charge $300/hour, she did this before she started her session with me. She also bragged about a guy who made 50K very willing to pay her $300/hour rate.
While provider rates are excessive to advantage to fund your 401k and/or IRA accounts while the market is down. You will be surprised how much you have to cut back on the hobby funding at the max 401K and IRA yearly contribution amounts. If your married and wife does not work don't forget not to fund the spousal iIRA instead the hobby lol.
Agree. Too many guys want the prices to stay the same. Everything cost most, especially after COVID. Nothing from 2000 cost the same as 2022...so what's the big deal? Honestly, if you can't afford $400 an hour to have sex with someone you shouldn't be spending the money. I make a lot of income so I'm lucky enough to afford anyone at any rate. I prefer quality over quantity. As my prior post stated if I just wanted to cum I can do it myself.
Complaining about a $50 to $100 increase is a bit laughable considering a 20 year difference AND a world health pandemic. Average hotels now cost $300-$400 per night instead of $200. Food is more. Flights are WAY more. Etc, etc. Get used to it because things will not be cheaper.
Save up. Spend wisely.
$50-$100???? The same girl you could see for $350 in 2005-2010 is 1k or more in most circumstances.
I paid 2K for 2 hrs with the #1 provider in the TER's top 100 about ten years ago. I also saw plenty of high-end providers in the top 50 that charge 500-600 an hour around that time. Their average scores were at least 9.5. I checked the rates of the two I saw that are still active. Both Tawny Sun and Savannah Taylor charged 500 when I saw them and they charge 600 now. That's more than fair for the cost of living adjustment of 10 years and I would have no problem whatsoever paying that amount if I decide to see them again.
The problem I have with providers in this area is a lot of them charge 600-700 with an average score of mid to high 8's. If you check the national top 100, you will find plenty of them in other areas of the country that charges the same amount, but their average scores are 9.5 or higher. Take TER ID 39061 for example. I used to pay 300-350 to see her about 10 to 15 years ago. She is 15 years older now, offers the same menu as she did back then, and her average score is not even 8. So how can she possibly double her rate to 700 an hour? Yet people still pay her rate to see her as evidenced by her recent reviews (she probably offers discounts but that's still a lot). She told me back in 2007 that she turned 29. You do the math and figure out how old she is now. Her listed age is 31-35. Oldtimers like me know how old she is but newbies don't. I think it's fair to say there is a shortage of quality providers that charge reasonable rates in this area based on comparisons to providers in other areas.
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Awesome analysis and totally agree with your theory. I'm approaching 60, still have lots of unleashed testosterone and prefer the milfs as a general rule. However, never paid more than 7 roses for an hour. I remember seeing the provider you mentioned almost 20 years ago and while her service is amazing stop seeing her about 8 years ago due to price increase. Supply and demand dictates price and that provider still had an amazing body last time we met.