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Providers Should Check Discretely
drivingcrazy 7 Reviews 702 reads
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Providers should check the gift discretely when meeting new clients.  Otherwise, they can be ripped off easily. The bathroom rule can help.  Before the meeting, request that a client go to the bathroom to fresh up when he arrives and leave the gift in an envelope in the bathroom.  Then when he comes back, go to the bathroom to fresh up and with the door closed, look inside the envelope.  This is discrete and keeps the GFE illusion alive.  With repeat clients, this is usually not necessary but you never know.  Hope this helps in the future.

TiredOfBPbS1726 reads

I am a newbie provider and i advertise on BP with hope in finding decent people.

And i have, trough some screening and sometimes going with my guts. Most of the guys that call from backpage sound like they don't know what references mean, dah! LE? I met a few gentleman that had no problem giving me work info and we had a great time.

I know you are probably just thinking, don't advertise there then. Well its not that easy.

I am a newbie and don't have many reviews. A lot established hobbyist don't give girls like me a chance. I have a few regulars but they are not the type that are on the boards and write reviews. I am Date-Check and P411 verified, but haven't much responses from those sites because i dont have but one review. So i am resorting to advertise on BP. I have been sitting in my hotel room (very nice one and not cheap) answering BS calls all day.

Ok, this is why i am posting this...

A guy calls, no references ( 1 flag). no verification trough any of the board (flag2). Finally i ask him he can give me his work info. He does, i call and get his voice mail. So i dig a little deeper and Google the Company (its local, in Alexandria), his name is not in the directory but i get the reception number and ask for him, she puts me on hold and comes back saying he is at lunch. I feel somehow assured he is ok so i call and set something up. Before he comes i run his number trough my BAD NUMBERS list and his comes up as NCNS a couple months ago. I call him and tell him that, he says he doesn't remember but if so he must have been called back to work and couldn't call me and apologized. I should have cancelled the app then but i didn't. He comes up and i greet him. Nice passionate kiss, walk him in the room and ask to get comfortable, he doesn't. I ask again and ask for the envelope. (Flag 3 and 4)...tell him to put the donation in a thing i had, he does but i didn't see it. Its 30min session and we are into 15min when he asks me how do i process the CC? What? Credit Card? No way...i look and sure enough its his CC with the name he gave me. Said he didn't know, will go downstairs and get cash. I put my clothes back on and feel Stupid. I don't get mad or have a scene, don't need the drama. He doesn't come back but calls and says he will be here later after work. because there was no ATM in the lobby and he has to go back to work...ha!  ( i lhappened to walk by one after he left)

So, i know with all that has been going on, everybody is being extra cautious, and i understand , but how can girl get her foot in the door if nobody legit will give her a chance???

Providers, i will post this guys number and name  on ProviderBuzz. He got me twice and i feel like S*HI*T.

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Sswede670 reads

Youre very aware of some very important factors of what seperates succcess from failure in this industry...like screenng and posting on legitimate sites (the two you mentioned are very good btw) frequented by legitimate guys.

The bad news is there is a learning curve and there are lots of clueless participants both, male and female and scammers as well to deal with.

This jerk who tried to give you a credit card takes the cake though, really. A few providers do take credit cards but they make clear they do and he obviously was scaming you. Im sorry for you as you did as well as you possibly could trying to verify him and he was playing you all along.

My initial thought it so just hang in there. If youre professional about procedures and provide good servce your stock will rise for sure.

People here can and will offer very good advice for sure on matters like websites and advertising. A start would be identifying yourself btw...lol..There are other places to advertise which attract qualilty legitmate opportunities would be TER(hint)for instance that are free as well.

Hope this is of some help ..dont get too down on your self..everyone goes throgh this to some degree...Its a matter of how you handle this adversity which will determine how successful you become.
Best wishes to you!

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let_sleeping_dogs_69579 reads

Just be happy that the lessons are getting scammed and not slammed.

Sorry darlin'. As for reviews, you could ask your regulars to sign up for a free account here and post reviews. Of course, there is another chicken-egg problem in that sometimes new reviews on unreviewed providers (by reviewers with no history) don't go up for a while. Still it's worth a try.

Also advertise here once a week if you don't already.

I would also post and ask other ladies for suggestions of things they tried when they had no reviews. Unfortunately for all here, with things being particularly hot out there right now, folks are less willing to TOFTT on an unreviewed lady. TOFTT used to mean a bad, B&S or RO experience at most. Now it can mean Uncle LEO.

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JennaPurrLatte876 reads

my first review came about when i asked one of my regulars why i never got any reviews.
he said he didn't know i wanted one.

then he sat down at my computer and popped one off.
but dont let a guy do this from your computer or you could get banned.

luckily the review was for a small local group, i was not on ter until a few years later.

dont assume your regulars dont post here or somewhere because i found out years later that some of my early regulars did but they had just assumed i had a no review policy.

slimy guys know that new girls dont check the envelope.
it's better to not advertise yourself as new to the business in my opinion cuz its like painting a target on your ad for every jerk out there... i would just advertise as "best kept secret" now available to new clients or something similar.... just a suggestion.

oh also: you could buddy up with an established girl and offer doubles.
it would be good for both of you because new girls always have lots of interest but guys are gun shy so it can generate alot of business for the both of you.

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TiredOfBPbS548 reads

Thanks Jenna,
i have tought of having doubles, but i am not bi and get shy when i have doubles. But it is still very good advice, as i am waiting for a friend provider to come back from her vacation and "take me under her wing", :-)
I do have a review here, only one.
 

Posted By: JennaPurrLatte
my first review came about when i asked one of my regulars why i never got any reviews.
he said he didn't know i wanted one.

then he sat down at my computer and popped one off.
but dont let a guy do this from your computer or you could get banned.

luckily the review was for a small local group, i was not on ter until a few years later.

dont assume your regulars dont post here or somewhere because i found out years later that some of my early regulars did but they had just assumed i had a no review policy.

slimy guys know that new girls dont check the envelope.
it's better to not advertise yourself as new to the business in my opinion cuz its like painting a target on your ad for every jerk out there... i would just advertise as "best kept secret" now available to new clients or something similar.... just a suggestion.

oh also: you could buddy up with an established girl and offer doubles.
it would be good for both of you because new girls always have lots of interest but guys are gun shy so it can generate alot of business for the both of you.

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Foggarty617 reads

How would anyone from here know how to get in contact with you since you provide no contact info????

Maybe a link to your site as well???

Fog

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robsul2004587 reads

I agree, post a link to your website

Posted By: Foggarty
How would anyone from here know how to get in contact with you since you provide no contact info????

Maybe a link to your site as well???

Fog

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TiredOfBPbS505 reads

Well, my intentions were to vent out on the issue and my issues as a new indy.
I am not expecting free publicity or "pity"
The answers above were affirming that i am on the right path.
I would love to meet new friends, both male and famale. I think that i am a good person, and dont want to be passed because i dont have many reviews. That's all. I wanted to speak my peace.

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J2526730 reads

...to cheat a provider who has his work number.

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ChristianSands885 reads

because notwithstanding the fact that she had his real name and work information (and his credit card number if she had a good memory) this guy had no qualms about cheating her.  So what protection did having all of this personal information offer?
There is no excuse for what he did but with all due respect, this gal did not do herself any favors.  She did not get cheated because the guy had no references, she got cheated because she didn't bother to check what the guy left her.  That was her mistake.

Posted By: J2526
...to cheat a provider who has his work number.

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rdm410501 reads

Posted By: ChristianSands
She did not get cheated because the guy had no references, she got cheated because she didn't bother to check what the guy left her.  That was her mistake.
This is perhaps an old argument but when it comes to verifying the donation, it seems like providers are damned if they do, damned if they don't.  

Some hobbyists seem to feel that maintaining the illusion of the GFE nature of a session should include not verifying the donation until the end (or after they have left).  You see variants of that line ("she never checked the donation"... "she didn't look in the envelope"... etc etc)  in different reviews, all meant as positive comments.  

The corollary of this is that when a provider does check up on the donation at the start, they seem to get negative reviews.  (Of course, that seems to vary on how the provider does the checking; counting something out in front of the person giving it to you could be considered rude regardless of the context.)  

Personally, if a provider wants to discreetly verify the donation, I have no problem with it.  But that's me.

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drivingcrazy703 reads

Providers should check the gift discretely when meeting new clients.  Otherwise, they can be ripped off easily. The bathroom rule can help.  Before the meeting, request that a client go to the bathroom to fresh up when he arrives and leave the gift in an envelope in the bathroom.  Then when he comes back, go to the bathroom to fresh up and with the door closed, look inside the envelope.  This is discrete and keeps the GFE illusion alive.  With repeat clients, this is usually not necessary but you never know.  Hope this helps in the future.

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