I was disappointed today to find a new roadblock to booking a session at private viewing agency, Secret Temptation.  It means, unfortunately that I and perhaps others will be unlikely to participate.  I'll explain.

I called, asked to see Hanna, who I've been trying to see for about a month but our schedules weren't lining up.  Finally found an agreeable time and was asked if I'd been there before.  Why yes, I've been a occasional ST customer for years and was able to name several of the girls I'd seen.  We then got to the location and instead of the usual back and forth of confirming, getting gate codes, etc, I was asked to tell him where they are.  Now, I mentioned that I'm an occasional customer, because I usually frequent BG.  So I don't recall exactly which apartment complex it was in - but that's never been a barrier before.  Of course, this raised red flags on his part and he then insisted I needed references.  

Well, as you can deduce, I partake in the PV agencies and AMPs - they don't give references and it now seems if you're not a full service guy (to generate references) and can't cite their location to them, you'll be blocked from seeing their girls.  I've seen other guys post on here that they also frequent the PV scene and aren't looking for FS.

Anyway, thought I'd try and save the next guy a little trouble.  Now that I've thought about my past experiences, I can explain where I've seen Kelly, Lisa, Summer and others (I can tell you a story about the bedframe falling apart!), but as the appointment booker explained, that won't matter now for me, I need references, period.

Good luck getting in - I've always enjoyed my time with them and am sorry to now be blocked after all these years.  I did, however, make an appointment to see one of the new girls over at Blue Gems, Alyssa, and looking forward to my session.

(Oh, and this is the first time I recall getting a guy answering the phone.   I suppose all of this means there are changes going on at Secret Temptation and if you get a chance to see Hanna, know that I envy you!)

the guy has answered the phone over the last couple of yrs during my time, but that's not always the case....the girl is still there.

they took down the schedules during the summer from another website that always had it during my time. However, I ask who is available at a certain time and the guy will not give it....he ask who I want to see instead. The lady will at least give you a list, lol.  

 

 
Do i know the gate code? nope..forgot it over a year ago, but I never need it. Now if I go at a weird time in the future....I expect to be given the code.  

 
but if they really want references....turn on the girls profiles so I can get several months of VIP for all those unapproved reviews... hahaha. I'm sure the couple I got approved for has given them some extra business, ha

Hi this is Tyra and if you have been a regular customer then you should know that a guy has been answering the phones for over 6 years. If you have a problem call back and ask to speak with me! Do Not put all of our screening information on the boards for Everyone to read that is Not Discretion and if you have been a frequent customer then you should know that we are Very Discreet! It doesn't matter if we are FS or Not Safety is Safety and a few safety protocols have been put in place! If the ladies don't feel comfortable seeing clients that have No References or cannot prove that they Have been to us before then I can't go against that! If you have seen Lisa etc then you should know very specific things about our agency! Respect the decision of the ladies as we have had too!  If you have a question or concern you are free to call and ask for me at Any time! If you choose to frequent other agencies I wish you the best but Discretion is the Key with us

Hi we try to limit going down a full list of who is available when we figure that you guys already know who you would like to visit with especially when the phones are busy! We go down a list of who is available and then you gentlemen say the name of the lady that you want to see that we have not listed when you could just ask if that particular lady is available when you first call and if she is not available then we will go down the list for you. We are not trying to be difficult but at the end if the day we can't make everyone happy we are running a business and we are doing the very best that we can and I have been told that we are doing a pretty good job! We get sooooo many calls asking who is available only for you gentlemen to say ok I will call back! It just helps us out if you let us know who you would like to visit with and if she isn't available the we can advise you from there!  I also don't post the schedules anymore because the ladies change their schedules day to day and me having to keep going back to edit the schedules or hearing clients complain that they set their schedules based on the schedules that I posted and the lady changed her schedule and I didn't update it can make for one big Frustration! I hope you understand and I thank you for being a client of ours as well as all of you other great guys!  

 
Kisses,

Tyra

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OK, so you're very busy but requesting who's available is reasonable.  I usually ask who's available via email and I sometimes get a response and sometimes I don't.  If I don't I usually move on.  The reason I ask is because I'm not a regular but a once or twice a year visitor.  When you tell me who's available I can then check photos and reviews and decide who I'm interested in seeing.  I don't think requesting who is available is unreasonable.  Just my opinion.

As far as responding to email I rarely check that. I check it once a day. I feel it's best for you to call in case I need to check references or request other information. I don't have a problem with those who want to ask who's available. It's only when some one ask for a person I did not name in the original line up at the beginning of the call. It saves time when you know who you want to see and it better helps us to direct you if that provider is not there.

I've been doing this a loooong time.  As a matter of fact I got my feet wet with ST.  But Reference check for PVn level service?!?!  I think not.

Yes, I will be choosing to frequent other agencies...when the mood hits me for PV...which is rare these days.  I was just thinking (about 2 weeks ago) of contacting ST for old tims sake.

My rational:

Don't get me wrong...I understand and appreciate your and the ladies needs to ensure safety.  I get that.  So maybe I guess it's combination of me being old school and I'm not a criminal.  Along with the fact that I'm very respectful of women so I have no ill intent whatsoever.  Hence, I would not be willing to add the extra time and effort to do the reference thing when the ending is pretty much a glorified HJ.  I can get that at an AMP PLUS a good CMT level massage for damn near half the price; AND they don't require references.

I guess I see the providing of references as an added cost to my session.  As the ladies providing the reference incur the cost of time to give the reference and, I incur the cost of maintaining the relationship with the ladies giving the references.  Given this additional "cost" is ST gonna assure a minimal level of performance?

Good luck with your new business model.

I do have some fond memories of ST but those ladies have since left your agency.  I may consider future visits with ST if you have a lady who really catches my eye

I don't see it as a laughing matter, and this is the last response that I am making about this discussion! It is not a new policy, it has been in effect for over 8 months! If you have been to us before then no worries if you are a new client provide references end of discussion! If you don't like it go somewhere else no problem! H.J. F.S. P.V. Etc etc if we choose to screen and we are a PV agency then so be it! First time for Everything!  When one or more of my ladies Safety is of Concern then I must protect the ladies!  You may be a gentle and respectful client but some are Not!  Funny thing is most of the new clients have No problem providing references and if they don't have any then they understand! All of the ladies that I call or email for a reference check have No problem with it either!  You asked would our quality of service go down because of us asking New clients or clients who Have No Idea where to Go for references? Our level of service is something that I focus on strongly,  so the answer to your question is No it will not go down! Thank you for visiting with our agency in the past and if you choose to come in again you are more than Welcome to!  Thanks

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Will you now start providing references?