I know this subject has been covered - but tell me again - how many would agree to this screening - taken from a provider’s ad -

Attention All New Clients: You will need to go through a screening process. I will require your full name, home address or home number, company name, address and phone number. You will also need to show 2 valid forms of ID. If you have a problem providing this information, please do not call. I understand your privacy is of up most importance but this is to ensure both my safety and yours. Thank you for your cooperation.

A little to strict for me -  I've given my full name and company information followed by a call back to my office to confirm and showing ID when I arrived (hoping they don’t have a photographic memory), and providing my business card - but you are not getting my home number and address.

Would rather join one of the reliable screening companies and give it to them - but not a provider. And the more I think of it not even the screening company unless I was already divorced and single – oh damn, for that matter I don't know if I would be around anyway - because the only reason I know for me to be single would be the SO having caught me and then off with the reason I’m doing this anyway.

What have you accepted as reasonable screening?

I thought it was a little tough also. My home address/number is off-limit.. Work # goes straight to me unless my gatekeeper answer my personal line. I have 2 valid forms of ID, so no problem..Lot of information for an hr.

I like the way Angelina screens, tough but nothing overbearing..

I think I would (and did) if I was brand-new and had no references.  But once you do, I thought typically all they need is the full name and the work info.

Seems like the standard, anyways.

of doing it without invading a clients privacy. Usually, I require name and work main number and the extension. Then I make a simple phone call and ask for the person. Once he answers the phone, I just exchange couple words and tell him to comtinue the conversation on his cell or mail. Whatever is more convenient for him. I don't rely on other providers references because sometimes they vouch for people they never saw (happened to me before). Also, I ask if he's a TER, TBD or UG member. If he says yes, I ask his handle and I do a search on his name and reviews. Then I b/c a little note to confirm his identity.
These things are enough for me...once a client is screened I discard all information. If he shows interest in seeing me again, I just give him a "pet" name and tell him to use it when he calls me again. I have a great memory, so I remember most of the people I know and see regurlarly. Of course I cannot remember, right away, someone I saw once 3 years ago, but if we talk and discuss details of our encounter I will remember him as well.

I provided more information because I didn't have any references.. I won't provide my hm address and number now.. I can understand some providers wanting that information for protection. You still hear about providers blackmailing people,rare but it does happen.. So I would have to pass.

You'd have to be an idiot to give that much info to a provider......regardless of how much LE looks the other way, hobbying is still an illegal activity that you dont want your personal info connected to.

Giving every provider you see that kind of info is a quick way to ruin your life.

My first thought is either she wants all that info. for something other than a date, or she has security "issues."  That's a lot more information than you should have to give, and there's tons of decent providers who are not that intrusive, despite asking for some confirmation of who you say you are.

Of course, I've never known the real name of an escort, and never expect to.  That's the part of  screening I don't like--it doesn't go both ways, and I think a lot of men have as much to lose through indiscretion as the women do from lack of privacy--I know I do.  It's almost like some Indian tribes or ancient Celt cultures wherein if you learned someone's real name, you had some mystical power over them.

I detest this increasingly complex process anyway--two years ago, no one ever asked me for anything.  Crime is down, so that's not it.  Just general paranoia I suppose.  Must be the nefarious influence of the damn guvmint. . . .

I gave my home number to the first provider I saw who required screening. Unless you have an unlisted number or a very common name, once she knows your full name she can find out your number and address very easily from several online services anyway.

Yes, there's no way my home info goes out to anyone -- even my SO -- LOL

I come from the land down under, where indies get popped as often as flies on a windscreen.  Police officers can have fake IDs, phones, cars confiscated from other crimes that they could use in a sting. In Cali they routinely will impound the John's car for a MONTH. They can also be legitimately working at another job in a part time capacity somewhere else. They will often show their real ID to the prostitute, since we will not memorize the address.  Yep, they look just like their ID.

I have been around long enough to have heard of stories that would make your skin crawl. In some states it has been perfectly acceptable to get a BBBJ and then arrest the lady. They can come back several times and then arrest you the 4th time, and pay all along till then. Some will offer you a ride to the cement box or a freebie. Many ladies take the freebie. They never realize that they were raped till much later. You can get arrested for just being there, and then terrorized into a plea bargain. It is your word against theirs and unless you have a spotless record, good luck. It is a risk you take. If you are not willing to take the risk, don't be risky. Stick with well reviewed ladies, and make it clear that you contact them, not the other way around. Ask them to not put your number in their phone or computer.

It is fairly simple never mention x $ for y activities. Never describe y activities. I personally think ladies are nuts to correspond through e-mails. Why make their job easier? I would rather talk to them on the phone, and get a sense of them. Then again, I have a lot of tattoos, have a big pit bull and hands that are registered weapons so I don't really get the standard weirdoes, only the fun pervy weirdoes that make my job infinitely more fun. I am also 34, and have a lot of experience working with people before I even stepped into this world.  Last week for example I was paid my hourly rate to wrestle naked with someone and if I pinned him I could then blow him. This was so much more fun than a standard session. However I knew at the age of 23 that real sex bores me.

I am less trusting of some of the women in this biz then the men. One of these days I will sit down and detail a certain story of how one lady turned over all of another lady's info over to local le and then arranged to have her vice client arrest her 4 days later. 10K later, and 6 mo. of court proceedings.... it is a good story, you can decide if it is fiction or non-fiction. His info? It all checked out. You betcha. In summation: if they really want to nail you, they will. If you are in the business it will happen sooner or later.




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Nice - but what are your thoughts on screening - not scaring - damn....

Thanks Sweetie - I agree with everything you wrote and appreciate it. Sorry for the cost of our education in Life - it is quite expensive sometimes.

So which of those 2 pictures of me do you like best? Bearded or Not?

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Yes, I went on a tirade there and did not directly answer the Q.

"Attention All New Clients: You will need to go through a screening process. I will require your full name, (pointless) home address or home number (pointless, some cops don't like to give out their home info though...), company name, address and phone number. (pointless) You will also need to show 2 valid forms of ID. (yawn) If you have a problem providing this information, please do not call.(Perks her ears...she has a LOT of regulars!)  I understand your privacy is of up most importance but this is to ensure both my safety and yours. (This means nothing) Thank you for your cooperation. (Heh, like that makes you feel better.)

Screening companies lile RS2K are great.
I would suggest this approach, besides then you get a discount usually if you are a member. I am more than willing to discuss other details with you or anyone else that I have seen, about screening on the phone, or in person, but as you know, I don't like to make some govt people's jobs any easier. (wink)

I like the beard better.






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I will NEVER provide my home address and phone number.  Work info is absolutely fine and for most people, work info is public info anyway except for those who work for LE or CIA.

Usually, only indies, rarely agency ladies, will ask for intrusive personal info and/or reference because they work alone and this is the only protection they have against violent clients or robbers.  The screening has nothing to do with LE as LE rarely bother indies but prefer targeting flashy agencies to maximize publicity.  If LE have targeted you, they can provide false IDs as necessary to pass the screening anyway.

If you think it's a little strict, do whats best for you.  There are a zillion ladies and you should find someone that fits what you are comfortable with.  I am happy with those screening companies but I don't always see someone because they are listed on them.  Bottom line don't waste too much time worrying about it as you know you can backchannel certain "others" whom you feel thier advice is worthy and then make your own choice.  Remember this hobby is for fun not pressure.

The screening requirements I provided are from an indies ad and it is my hope that she modifies the requirements to her benefit not mine.

But it might have been more diplomatic to simply ask on the board how people felt about giving either their home address or phone number for screening.  Which, I see is, the only difference from the standard screening.  

You should ask yourself how it would appear to her reading her ad verbatim on a post for commentary, especially right after all this business with SI.

Then I take it you searched every ad and know which one huh... Well, busted I am I guess... At least in part.

After reading this screening requirement I was actually interested to know how much information others have given up or what they would be willing to give and what providers thought about it.

For all those who responded including yourself, the information provided might have been helpful to her or possibly another new face getting started or even an established Indy or agency including how SI might consider handling screening better.

But the interesting thing is this - what does it really do to help? See, LE can lie and produce fake documents or even real one so that isn't helpful protecting anyone from getting busted.

So I guess it is to protect the providers from the few crazy Hobbyist. In some way I’m sure it does, on the other hand, how many can produce a fake ID if they really wanted to – most likely the craziest of them out there.

The one thing I thought strange is how some responded to the screening by the referral system which I thought would was the best but would have only benefited the established hobbyist of course. See, the person I would use if asked for a providers reference - does not rely or trust this method - go figure (and do you know who that is?) It’s not that she wouldn’t provide one – she won’t accept one.

Anyway, it’s been an interesting read for a while – at least for me. And the comment back to Tiger might have been understood as my only intent – my comment was more so to let him know these types or requirements where not solely owned by Agencies.

Oh and knowing how strict she is, she probably couldn't care less about little ole me and anyone else that can't comply with those requirements - so sorry for being as inconsiderate and tactless as it appears and using hers as the example – I’ll be sure to pass it to an editor in the future.

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If home phone/address were required, I'd pick a different provider.

O.K. O.K. O.K. Boy are you guys tough. Yes that is from my ad, but please allow me to explain….
First of all you guys have got to realize I am an independent, which means I am ALONE!!! Which also means I can get HURT!! Yes, I know due to the nature of the business this is a risk I must take, but to help ensure my safety and  give me a little peace of mind I need to toughly screen my clients. Second I would hope you would be glad I screened all my clients so well. This was you will never have to worry about some nut job or God Forbid L.E. knocking on my door while your with me.
Guys trust me when I say  I do understand your concern about  giving out personal information to a provider, I would be as well. But put yourself in my shoes, wouldn’t you be scared???? Wouldn’t you want to be a careful as possible???  I can assure you that I am always incredibly discreet and I only keep your information until we have actually had our appointment and then I shred everything. I keep my contact’s in one of my free email account’s NEVER on my comp. and even then I don’t keep any personal info that can be linked back to you. I delete my call history on my cell regularly and I wipe my comp. clean with 2 different program’s at the end of the day . I don’t want to make things hard for you guy’s (well then again maybe one thing!! LOL) so if you give me your full name and  town you live in along with your work info we shouldn’t have a problem. I do take referrals from other girls. Also if you are well known on TER and have done review’s that works too,  I’m not that strict, but I am picky and for good reason. I can guarantee you that if  you do get in to see me you will sooo not be disappointed. You see I love my job, I never watch the clock if anything I usually have guys telling me they have to go and I treat everyone as if they are my one and only. Come on how could you go wrong???? I’ll tell you what because everyone here seems so nice I’m willing to drop my rate this week to $275 -hr  $225-½ but you must be willing to give me the info I request hassle free. Fair?????
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I luv this site and know alot of girls who do to. It's really easy to contact the other girls who have seen/approved the guys......

No need to get your home/work info ect. I personally dont want it!

Karina, let me say I empathasize with your situation.  Eden went through the same challenges moving to another city.  It was even worse because she had a name change and went independent.  Under the new name, she had her first review pulled by TER staff out of disbelief a brand-new provider could receive a 10/10.  She waited weeks for the old and new reviews to be combined, then days more for her city location, phone number and email to be corrected.  All without one single print ad.  

There were many people skeptical whether she was real or if she was "any good" here on TER and business was slow during that time.  But once her reviews were corrected, she had more business than she could handle, even at a higher price.  This was true for Washington, DC as well as LA.  There was a special touring price for DC but it was still higher than her old rate...and she was booked days before she even arrived.  That's when we realized requests rarely came from the boards but usually came from gentlemen who only viewed her reviews.  Also, let me mention that Eden will not see anyone without a reference and other screening which she stands firm by without exception.  I do not even check the references, she does that herself personally.  Like you, she believes her personal safety is the most important thing.  

I've recently received a few inquiries from gentlemen in Washington, DC regarding Eden's schedule.  Unfortunately, Eden will not be touring DC this month and is not sure she'll return in until late June at the earliest.  She has both personal and professional commitments keeping her in LA.  She is doing well there.

I would encourage any gentlemen who had intended on visiting Eden to consider other alternatives.  There are many wonderful ladies in DC.  Without exception, Eden has said they have been terrific about providing references and very nice to her.  So I do think you've picked a good city to work in, Karina.

Karina, if you need assistance, please feel free to contact Eden or myself at [email protected].  Take care and hang in there.  Keep filling those problem reports with TER until you get everything straightened out!

Lia
Eden B's PA & Lackey

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