I'm certain she doesn't want men under 35 to see her because it usually takes men that amount of time to finally grow up. It can take a number of years for a man to elevate his level of consciousness and develop sensitivity and understanding toward women--providers and civilians.
Vamikey is correct; this military officer is going to have to appeal to her himself, but appealing to her sense of patriotism may backfire on him. Most women are anti-war, and I don't blame them since they are the mothers who suffer the unbearable loss of their children.
I can understand Military Officer's interest in Madison. She is a hot little spinner and very friendly (I've seen her before). But--there are other hot little spinners who would be willing to see him. Sometimes, not getting what you want can be a good thing.
Her websites say that she only sees 35 yo +
Can anyone convince her to see me?
Will See make an exception?
I am serving this proud country and even went over to the desert to suppor the current war, lol.
Moreover, I am very mature and charming.
Plus, does she really need to get my work info? It might be a bit too much
While we all may agree that you deserve a visit with Madison, she (like all providers) reserves the right to see who she wants to. So you can only appeal to her. Maybe she's a patriotic American who will be swayed by your service to your country (BTW, thanks from a fellow but older vet) or maybe not. Otherwise, move on, there are so many fishes in the sea!
that perhaps she might make an exception to her 35 or older rule for a warfighter. She has the right to set her own rules (and live with the economic consequences) and see who she chooses to. And so do the hobbyists; I for example have a rule of not seeing any ladies under 25; I am sometimes tempted to disregard ths rule for a really hot looking provider but I always remnd myself that there's no point having rules if you don't follow them. She may make an exception, she may not; her choice. As the old saying goes, ya payz yer monies & ya makes yer choices! And there are a lot of other choices!
I replied to vamikey in my last post. Now that I've re-read your post, I have to ask, what's the purpose?
I'm certain she doesn't want men under 35 to see her because it usually takes men that amount of time to finally grow up. It can take a number of years for a man to elevate his level of consciousness and develop sensitivity and understanding toward women--providers and civilians.
Vamikey is correct; this military officer is going to have to appeal to her himself, but appealing to her sense of patriotism may backfire on him. Most women are anti-war, and I don't blame them since they are the mothers who suffer the unbearable loss of their children.
I can understand Military Officer's interest in Madison. She is a hot little spinner and very friendly (I've seen her before). But--there are other hot little spinners who would be willing to see him. Sometimes, not getting what you want can be a good thing.
I think because Madi is so young she doesn't want to deal with all the pups that are gonna fall in love and try to "rescue" her.
Oh and that crapola about serving my country so I should be entitled to certain priveeledges is downright silly. I am sure many guys here served their country in the past (Myelf included) and may still. Hate to break the news to you junior but the millitary does not offer much and using this excuse that I serve mu country so the rules should be broken for me is a joke. I guess that is the approach that corrupt politicians take when they get kickbacks from lobbyists, because they are serving their country as well.
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you seem to somehow want to belittle those who selflessly serve their country and that will not go unchallenged.
First of all, I was merely commenting that the provider might make an exception to her over-35 policy because of this guy's service to his country; I don't believe I expressed any view that this status gave any free reign over rules or anything.
I have been to the Vietnam Veterans' Memorial and found the names of the three friends I lost over there so trying to equate that sort of service with what our elected dickheads ds is fairly offensive. Most of us serve humbly and are grateful for any thanks we get.
My view is that most of us shoud be eternally thankful for the sacrifices that these men & women make so we might remain free every day to participate in this hobby, or whatever else we choose to do. That's called freedom!
As always, YMMV.
The US millitary is composed of volunteers. The Vietnam war, Korean War and the millitary personel who served in whe world wars I and II were in many/most cases draftees. Today they sign the dotted line because they choose to of their own free will. They know the risks, the pay and the responsibility. Besides for most its Basic Training or the County Detention Center, flipping pancakes at IHOP or watching the corn grow in Nebraska for the next 60 years.
Now this feeling of entitlement because I serve this country is downright silly. It may work with a bouncer to skip the cover charge at a club or when they flash the millitary ID when they get pulled over for speeding. However here there is nothing that can be done in this case. If a provider wants bend the screening requirements to give you a thank you fuck because you so valliantly handled the barrage of paperwork as a supply officer during the bombardment of Baghdad then that is her decision.
I was a Vietnam-era draftee, got picked up out of my cushy civilian life and off to basic training at Ft. Bragg.
So by your system of values, if some one volunteers to make sacrifices & defend their country (or put out fires or enforce the law) then we owe them no gratitude since they ALL just took a job to avoid prosecution or selling burgers at Mickey D's? So the guy who gets called away from his family & kids to walk patrols in Afghanistan is no more deserving of attention than the guy flipping your burger at Wendy's?
I don't believe I ever mentioned any sense of the entitlement which you seem to resent so much; I believe I just expressed that most of us who served our country are grateful for any consideration. Of course, since we're all just avoiding prosecution or menial jobs, there's no reason for anyone to thank us for doing this job that many others (like yourself, apparently) cannot lower themselves to consider. I guess it's a good thing there are sufficient folks in this lowly category to adequately defend the freedom you have to spout such nonsense.
Few if any of us feel we are 'owed' anything. I just expressed that maybe the provider in this case might give some consideration to the military officer and bend her over-35 rule. Or not, her call. Thanks to the many sacrifices by military men & women over the years, she has that choice!
And by the way, without the logistics chain supporting them (i. e. supply officers) the warfighters would be unable to do their job with no food, fuel or ordnance. Study military logistics a bit before you disparage supply officeers.
If you expect me to thank you for doing your job then sorry. I guess the North Vietnamese thanked you guys very well. Also if you are really proud of the US's criminal involvement in Vietnam as well as the illegal/secret war in Laos then you are a either in denial, too ignorant to understand or share the same mentality that the "Terrorists" do. I am not even going to mention the US's illegal occupation of my country.
Now you group all people in government service such as Police and firefighters all together. Why did you leave out public servants like Politicians from your list??
If you know how to read and have even one iota of imagination you can see that the threadstarter was trying indirectly get a provider to bend her screening requirements for the war hero. That is an obvious display ofsense of entitlement.
I am not going to get into a discussion about the ethics of a provider screening her clients. If she chose not to see him then too bad. I am sure there are of backpage, or cityvibe girls tham may even give him a freebie since he is so charmimg and handsome. I dont think she is so strapped for cash that she needs to ease up her screening requirements such as giving up work info and age requirement.
I did not want to get into a flaming discussion but it just happened.
Mahalo Brah
hey dude,
I guess I should not have mentioned anything about military. I am not coercing anyone to do anything. In the end, it is still up to her to decide. Either way, I would respect her decision and still hope all is well for her. In terms of analogy, just because you ask a girl out and she says no does not mean you try again. The next time, you try to be more ALPHA and do better job convincing. If that doesn't work, well... then I guess you should move one...
Anyways, it is not like I am asking her for a FREE session. I am willing to compensate her and MORE, which means a pretty good tip and even possible gifts. I historically TIP well no matter how dull sessions are. And no, I am not seeking any relationship. I want things to be professional, yet fun and enjoybale for BOTH of us. When the lady enjoys the time and wants me to repeat, I feel great. I even got offered some discounts for subsequent meetings from some providers, because they were impressed.
Be happy and enjoy ur weekend
EOM
I didn't realize that I was dealing with a conspiracy theorist whose country (according to you) has been occupied by the forces of evil under whose protection you live every day. Your comments about the North Vietnamese thanking my three deceased friends are inexcusably cruel, I guess it's too bad you weren't here to reverse the political machine that sent my generation to the southeast Asian jungles to do what they were told. Oh, that's right, you were apparently in your country doing your thing for the greater good of humanity and not subject to being sent off to defend your country.
I hope that, wherever you're from, you don't lose sight of the fact that there are a lot of Americans, warfighters, firemen, police, etc. who give of themselves every day so YOU can have the freedom to send out your idiotic ravings about the illegal wars etc.
I neither expect nor want your thanks for doing what my country asked me to do. I am and will always be proud of my service. And I greatly resent your denigrating (look it up) the service of my fallen brethren. You should be thankful for the sacrifices of all of us.
First, my country was illegally occupied if you want proof check out the link below. I love how you start to classify people who have a different opinion than your own. Lets say if I were to question the Billions that the US sends to Israel, would that make me an Anti-semite? Or if I were to say that men make better bricklayers than women, would that make me male cheuvanist? If I am against affirmative action, does that make me a biggot? I guess so by your standards.
Now for the record. The US later admitted that the golf of tonkin incident was fabricated and the 53000 names on the wall may have and most likely did die for nothing. I guess you have Eisenhauer, Kenneddy and Nixon to blame for that one. Sorry about your lads (and I mean that sincerely) but the fighting for freedoms rhetoric was the only way that their loved ones would be able to justify the loss.
Dude, i dont care to discuss this anymore. Justifying a nation's denial of war crimes and branding people names who have different opinions is a discussion that is below me.
You may have the last word sir
Once again,
Mahalo Brah
For starters. I know how to spell Eisenhower, Kennedy (one D) and Nixon (but of course as a brainwashed member of the public I would, though the education seems to have escaped you).
And I'm very familiar with the Gulf (not Golf) of Tonkin resolution, and I probably mostly agree that the Vietnamese War was largely trumped up and surely totally mismanaged. But guess what? The guys who were sent off to fight & die there didn't get a say in the decisions that got them there, any more than today's warfighters have a say as to whether we're in Afghanistan or Iraq.
I have no problem with opinions other than my own as long as there's some factual basis and logic behind it; otherwise it's just tokenism or mindless hypocrisy. And you can't be a really good bigot unless you learn how to spell it correctly.
I'm so glad that you think this discussion is below you (though most would have said it's beneath you), a favorite retreat for for folks whose disagreement is based on opinion or twisted data rather than facts. I honor your right to your opinion; I deny you your right to a separate set of 'facts.'
First of all, spelling mistakes could be distracting but it shouldn't take away the validity of one's argument.
It does not matter whether the wars, invasions or occupations were just or not. To me, a war hero's act is not heroic if he uses his status to pressure someone to bend her rules. Not only that, he tries to use members of the board to pressure her.
I really don't want to intervene but will if it continues down this path.
I never thought I'd NOT miss being in my 20s but this is one of those times. lol Sorry, but I think you need to talk directly with Madi about whether or not she'll make exceptions for you. Maybe get to know each other a bit through correspondences?
One would have thought that older guys are a bit more out of shape compared to military guys in their 20s and the older ones would be less attractive... However, apparently many girls prefer older guys due to maturity, being more understanding and respectful, being more knowledgeable about the female anatomy, treating their body with more sensitivity and care, etc.
I know that when I was in my late teen and early 20s, I was bragging left and right about all my civvy conquests. I was also friggin rough on the girls, going for maximum rounds, faster/rougher/harder, it was all about pounding as much as I can and releasing every drop. LMAO. I've grown up since then, thankfully.
I guess ladies are not comfortable with that kind of loud and boisterous self-centered ego trip... not to mentions the privacy invasion they have to deal with being with younger guys.
You may be different... Not every young guys are immature.
Madison is gorgeous BTW. She's one of the few girls who took me by surprise when I walked in the door.
MilitaryOfficer: Many escorts shy away from young men because the latter have seen too many porn movies and want to replicate especially energetic scenes with providers. They don't necessarily like that and prefer a more subdued time in bed. If still interested, you may want to convey that to Madison and she may be willing to bend her rule.
To the other posters: Nowhere did this fellow say that, because he is a military vet, that he deserves an exception. He simply pointed out, that due to his life experiences, he may possess greater maturity than your typical 20-something. Nothing more. Sheesh.
To the other posters: Nowhere did this fellow say that, because he is a military vet, that he deserves an exception. He simply pointed out, that due to his life experiences, he may possess greater maturity than your typical 20-something. Nothing more. Sheesh.
Only you have the answer to that Major Hardon. Many a lady with an age rule has made exceptions for those who have presented a compelling reason why she should do so. If you can convey your maturity in a well worded email, who knows...
My thoughtful and sincere letter on its way. I shall treat her VERY well !
That last statement actually makes me a little uneasy.
I wasn't trying to offend anyone. I was not bragging or using my status to get her to change her position.
I just wanted to point out that I am more mature, reliable and caring than your typical 20 something's.
Most of my female colleagues and friends - both from past and current- see me as very professional and sincere.
A lot of ladies - ex-gf's, escorts, strippers, housewives, neighbors - all agree. I was just hoping that Madison could give an exception and give me a chance. It just shows my HIGH REGARD for APPRECIATION of her.
I have much to lose too, so it is not like this is all fun and joke here...
Spring for a VIP membership. Lose the alias. Develope a respectable presence on the board. Get a few reviews under your belt. Contact her directly . Express your interest in seeing her while recognizing you are asking her to waive one of her criterias. Hope a lady you've reviewed will give you a glowing reference. It is not a matter of claiming to be mature but it is an issue of establishing a history that affirms your hobby savy.
I'm going to 2nd that..... nothing might not sway her more than actual actions and at least a short reviewing history NOT peer pressure (rallying others to get her to make an exception). Also I see a huge share of military guys....giving up that info among other things isn't much of an issue for there. Saying hey i'm mature or a nice guy doesn't mean much if you don't have a few good and reputable references to back it up.
My, my what a lot of posturing this interesting but simple question engendered. Military officer has one option -- establishing a dialogue with Madi and trying to persuade her to make an exception. Asking folks on this board to help out and mentioning his military service is pandering, military hero or not. To the OP, good luck with your quest. To Madi, if she reads this, you're the sold judge!