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Like all things Curly thinks are important for us to know, he's shared it. It irks him that people use the regional board for ISO postings and requests for restaurant recommendations, but he doesn't shy away from using it to tell us what he thinks about on other non-hobby topics. He's a sports fan; the Nats, well that's obvious, he can opine on the board in detail about the state of the team, but you may not know that he's also a big Redskins fan who also likes the Ravens; however, he doesn't seem to be interested in basketball and really doesn't think much of hockey. We also know his political opinions; maybe someone needs to tell him that he should confine those comments to the politics board. And we know his ethnicity because he's shared that with us as well. I suspect that he doesn't know how to swim as he's never told us what to think about that.

Hey Curly, am I supposed to put a little smiley face at the end of this so everyone knows that I'm actually quite clever and witty?

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Last night, I  found a fake review on my profile. I had not looked at my profile probably since November.  

I just want to let people know that the review written by a reviewer with very little history who calls himself Jrockies is NOT true, it never happened, I've never met him, and he has portrayed me in a completely  uncharacteristic way. He has also damaged my reputation with a striking 7 in a string of almost completely 9s. For someone like myself, who does not hound people for reviews and hence does not have page after page of them, this is not something I am willing to overlook as no big deal. Furthermore, the review itself does N OT read like me--its's nothing like me, as anyone who knows me would be able to tell you.  

Ive tried contacting TER many times today to no avail. Their "contact us" button will not work, and only gives me an error message stating that they "already working on this problem," and checking back many times today to try again has only gotten me the same result: unable to alert them via their  preferred means of contact about a fake review. When I tried using "Report a Problem," they only replied via  PM that I am to use the Contact Us button, but it has not worked despite how many times I have tried.  

I've also contacted this person Jrockies via PM to ask where and when we met, and of course he has not replied. My fear is that although he's clearly a fake, TER is not able (or maybe is unwilling) to accept a report on this fake review from me, and so this fake report will stand. I cannot tell you how much that bothers me, with all the reports we   hear of fake reviews, that I cannot even get admin to check it out, and it's from someone who has very little review history and who has not replied to my PM. I would think the cards are stacked in my favor, but I can't get anything done about it.  

Also of interest, in December, around the time this person posted a fake review of me, his name came up on the Boston board as a questionable reviewer probably writing false reports. I've enclosed that thread below.  

if anyone has any suggestions for me on what steps to take now, I would greatly appreciate it. The review system has only as much integrity as the community allows, and for the admin to allow this fake to stand harms us all. I have no clue as to what this guy's motivation is, whether he is just looking for free VIP time or if  his motives are even worse, but everyone should be aware that when you see his name next to a review, it's more than likely untrue. It is a fake right at the top of my reviews.  

 
And once again, if anyone has any suggestions for me to alert the admin other than using the Contact Us button which is NOT working, I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks very much for any help

OK....I hate fake reviews as well. It is pretty unfair to the lady and  us individuals who actually pay for their VIP membership.  It also rips off TER .  
Two suggestions
[1] Continue to follow proper protocal. If there is a tech prob preventing you from completing a problem report or contacting admin it will probably be fixed soon.
[2] The reviewer has one other review for a lady in LA. Why don't you contact her and see if that review is also fake. If so and the two of you submit your complaint to TER I suspect they will take a serious look into the matter.

Good luck

Thank you so much for your comment.

I found the review for the provider in LA and I did contact her.  No reply. No reply either from the fake reviewer.

No reply from TER other than to tell me to use their Contact Us button, which despite trying at least 15 times, will not allow me to even report this.

They DID reply when I sent them a  note on this via "Report a Problem," but that was only to tell me to use the Contact Us feature.  

I even used an email address from which I got a human-penned reply a while back. No reply.  

I have NO clue as to why they would not be interested in removing a fake review from soeone who is obviously a new reviewer and whose integrity has already been noticed by those on the Boston board. When I tried to find his other reviews, I found the one for the provider in LA (and PMsd h er, no reply). Gina Rollins's name also came up but I did not find a review written by him on her profile. Perhaps she was able to get hers removed.

I can tell you this. I never met this guy. iIt did NOT happen, and n ow I"ve got a 7 right at the top of my profile, making me look like an inconsistent, ,unprofessional jerk. Wonderful. Just great.  

Fake reviews are unfair to us, but they also harm the entire community. Who is this guy and what is his motive for posting fake reviews? Just to get free VIP time? He sure did put some time into that review of me is that's what  he's after. Is he a trouble maker trying to legitimize himself by posting fake reviews? I don't know. There is no way to know.  

I just want to  make sure to get this guys name out there so that it shows up on searches, whether here or on google searches: Jrockies is a fake reviewer. I never saw him. He never replied to me to tell me where and when he saw me. His review of me is not at all a representation of me, in any way. It did NOT happen.  

It also infuriates me because I always play fair. I am reliable. I show up on time. I do not flake out at the last minute on anyone. I am consistent and conscientious. And this is how I am rewarded--with silence and a fake review

I absolutely understand how aggravating it is to open your profile and have that 7 glaring at you. I get it.  But, it seems to be blinding you from seeing a whole page of 9s & 10s.  

As a hobbyist I would not be affected by that single review. Oh, I would read it and I would check out the dudes other reviews to get a sense of his scoring trends and history. Doing so , in your case I would totally disregard his review . It would have zero influence as too making a decision to book with you.  And I think most gents in your sphere would do the same.

Yes the 7 does slightly effect your average if position on the top 100 is important to you. And yes, you should make every effort to call him out and have the review removed.  But really....don't lose any sleep over this. It is not going to be of influence nor will it damage your reputation.

You know what. You are obviously very upset about this. Maybe you ought to drift down to Raleigh for a few days and let me personally comfort you [lol].

I also work in a profession where I am subject to the opportunity for the public to offer their reviews of my work.  99 times out of 100, I receive glowing reviews but then along comes that one person with something negative to say.  I get it.  I deal with the public and a certain percentage of the public are jerks.  I'm guessing that more than 1% of the public are jerks.  So if my reviews show that 99% of my customers love me and there is that one person who feels the need to trash me -- so be it -- because most people know that there are jerks out there and they will know by my record that I made the majority of my customers happy including some jerks so this one little weasel doesn't amount to a hill of beans.

Thank you for this, but I don't have even 99 reviews. I am low volume, so that one 7 does stand out like a sore thumb. Furthermore, why will TER not even take a report from me? There are supposed to be ways to report these things, and this guy is so obviously a fake, but their contact us button will not take a report from me, and they will not reply to anything else.

And still, as of now, no reply from Jrockies to answer the question: Where and when did we meet?  

He has no answer because he does not exist and he hasn't got a clue as to where I was in Decmeber because I never met him.

I get what you are saying, but to have a profile here and have reviews, for one to stand out like that is just horrible. It makes me look like bad, like a joke.  

And NONE of this answers why TER will not allow me to even report it. They guy hasn't a nswered. Others have noticed that his reviews appear to be fake. Why leave that revie up there?  

NO other way to contact them, I guess? Anyone?  

Posted By: guelloq
I also work in a profession where I am subject to the opportunity for the public to offer their reviews of my work.  99 times out of 100, I receive glowing reviews but then along comes that one person with something negative to say.  I get it.  I deal with the public and a certain percentage of the public are jerks.  I'm guessing that more than 1% of the public are jerks.  So if my reviews show that 99% of my customers love me and there is that one person who feels the need to trash me -- so be it -- because most people know that there are jerks out there and they will know by my record that I made the majority of my customers happy including some jerks so this one little weasel doesn't amount to a hill of beans.

that's so frustrating. similar thing happened to me. after a few months, they finally took the fake down, but I had to jump through a lot of flaming hoops to get them to. I sent the reviewer a pm every couple of days asking him to identify himself to no avail. eventually they took it down & damn if another questionable review popped up the next day. I decided not to pursue that one.

the best thing you can do at this point is to continue to try contacting them. hit report a problem button again, stay calm and professional when writing to them. send the reviewer a pm every couple of days.

it really sucks doesn't it? the point is not that you got a 7, but that you got a review from someone that you never met and there's seemingly nothing you can do about it. that is just so damn frustrating!

Getting reviews removed has always been an uphill battle for providers...There are plenty of providers who bitch and moan when they get bad reviews that the session never happened. This affects the integrity of the review system, and hurts TER's brand.  So unless there is a solid proof that the appointment DID NOT happen, good luck !!! Let me reiterate. The burden of proof that the appointment DID NOT happen is on YOU, not on HIM.  

****And it always ends up hurting legit providers who may be getting fake reviews for whatever reasons****

I have been to appointments w/o any paper trail. I have picked up girl from M&G and taken her to my room to have private time with her. So there is no proof that the appointment happened, and neither is there that it didn't happen. So if I were to submit a review and give whatever score I want, TER will take it.. Its my word (hobbyists) vs your word (provider) So there is no such rule that one has to follow a proper protocol for appointment.  No email trail is necessary.  

That being said, there was a perennial problem of First Time Providers getting reviews from First Time Hobbyists, and TER has corrected that by disallowing the same. It screams of self reviewing and nothing else, when you have 100s of those in a month.  

I am sorry, this might be hard for you, but you may just have to move on.  

But I do have a suggestion. You may want to contact the other provider who the guy has reviewed, and ask her about this dude. Try to get his email or phone # if you can.  

Good luck....

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I did. I contacted her.

I also contacted him via PM. Neither of them replied.  

If this happened, he should at least be able to tell me where and when this took place.  He cannot because it never happened.  

Posted By: CurlyW - Nats Fan
Getting reviews removed has always been an uphill battle for providers...There are plenty of providers who bitch and moan when they get bad reviews that the session never happened. This affects the integrity of the review system, and hurts TER's brand.  So unless there is a solid proof that the appointment DID NOT happen, good luck !!! Let me reiterate. The burden of proof that the appointment DID NOT happen is on YOU, not on HIM.  
   
 ****And it always ends up hurting legit providers who may be getting fake reviews for whatever reasons****  
   
 I have been to appointments w/o any paper trail. I have picked up girl from M&G and taken her to my room to have private time with her. So there is no proof that the appointment happened, and neither is there that it didn't happen. So if I were to submit a review and give whatever score I want, TER will take it.. Its my word (hobbyists) vs your word (provider) So there is no such rule that one has to follow a proper protocol for appointment.  No email trail is necessary.  
   
 That being said, there was a perennial problem of First Time Providers getting reviews from First Time Hobbyists, and TER has corrected that by disallowing the same. It screams of self reviewing and nothing else, when you have 100s of those in a month.  
   
 I am sorry, this might be hard for you, but you may just have to move on.  
   
 But I do have a suggestion. You may want to contact the other provider who the guy has reviewed, and ask her about this dude. Try to get his email or phone # if you can.  
   
 Good luck....

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The review was great, but it was simply a blatant lie.  I am no GREEK goddess!  LOL.  It took quite a while for TER to pull it though.  Was no easy process!  Just follow what they tell you to do and hope for the best.  Good luck to you!  Fake reviews suck and compromise the whole system.

but I cannot even get a report through. Their Contact Us button does not work for me. ALl I get is an error message. I've tried two different growers. They would not take the report via the Report a Problem. They took the time to reply via PM to let me know that, but have ignored all over PMs about this and the Contact Us button only gives me an error message

Oops! There was an error with the page you requested.

 
We are already working on this issue.

Error code: 4154604

I would love for anyone else to try to this and tell me if you are getting the same error message, because after asking someone telse this morning and hearing that no, no error message for them, and now having tried two different growers, I am getting the same error message. That seems to indicate that they may have banned me. I would love for someone to get an admin person in here to explain this to me.  

How on earth ARE you to follow what they tell you if you cannot even communicate with them?  

Posted By: AngelinaDDD
The review was great, but it was simply a blatant lie.  I am no GREEK goddess!  LOL.  It took quite a while for TER to pull it though.  Was no easy process!  Just follow what they tell you to do and hope for the best.  Good luck to you!  Fake reviews suck and compromise the whole system.

You have a nice website, love your last picture of you either sneaking in or sneaking out of a window in black leggings!  :)

The outlier as far as the seven is just that, an outlier.  Yes, just like on Amazon or E-bay, you go right to the lowest score to see what people are saying, but if its just one in a bunch of good scores, I usually throw it out-just like in scoring for ice skating - toss the low and high score.

I have never had an experience with expunging a bad review, but my guess is if you're persistent, TER will most likely believe you because of constant persistence, why else would you want a review removed that badly - especially in this case one that isn't really that bad.

On the upside for me, didn't know you were out there, thanks for posting - nice website and nice style.

GD111

I guess it may depend on which admin, but I few years ago I had a review approved then pulled saying it was fake. I had incriminating details and private phone number to prove it, but I just chucked it up to experience and moved on. Few months ago one of my review was challenged again because I gave lower scores, but TER handled it much better and gave me a chance to defend by providing specific details to prove my authenticity.

I'm sorry you are not getting prompt response from TER, but I hope you get through eventually. And like others say, if you have great scores overall except few outliers, most including myself would consider it an exceptional case and won't consider toward decision to see you.

They are not only not siding with me, I believe I have been banned from even being able to report this to t hem at all.  

I have now tried the same frustrating experience using a different browser for the Contact Us button and I got the same error message: Oops! There was an error with the page you requested.

 
We are already working on this issue.

Error code: 4154604

 

Ih ave no idea what that error  message means, but I asked someone else this morning to see if the Contact Us button would work for them, and it did. It does  NOT work and it appears that Ih ave been banned from reporting this to TER.

So no, TER does not side with providers. TER should not be siding with ANYONE other than those who are truthful and playing by the rules. And writing fake reviews is  not playing by the rules. It harms the entire community.  

I'd love for anyone else to check this out and see if you can get the Contact Us button to work. Two different browsers, about 20 attempts so far (which will give anyone a case of bad object frustration) and all I get is that error message. Please. SOmeone else try using it, send a blank message please, and let me know if you also get the error message.  
 

Posted By: 3000ma
I guess it may depend on which admin, but I few years ago I had a review approved then pulled saying it was fake. I had incriminating details and private phone number to prove it, but I just chucked it up to experience and moved on. Few months ago one of my review was challenged again because I gave lower scores, but TER handled it much better and gave me a chance to defend by providing specific details to prove my authenticity.  
   
 I'm sorry you are not getting prompt response from TER, but I hope you get through eventually. And like others say, if you have great scores overall except few outliers, most including myself would consider it an exceptional case and won't consider toward decision to see you.

Gebas599 reads

i believe when you banned you will not have ability to even post this thread, so aaaa no you not banned lololol

and you are correct. I just had one hell of a time getting my report to go through because I kept getting error messages.

If you look on this board, up a few posts, you will see that I have made it clear that the admnin got back to me finally, and they were very nice about it. They asked me to be patient while they investigate it. And that's what I wanted. That was the point of my original post.

YOu are right. If I had been banned, I would not be allowed to post. What I meant was that I was questioning whether they were not interested in reading my complaint about a fake review, because I had tried so many times and had PM'd them several times. That's all.  

 

Posted By: Gebas
i believe when you banned you will not have ability to even post this thread, so aaaa no you not banned lololol

AsianManNOVA746 reads

JRockies wrote the review in question, while the thread in your post was referring to JRockie whose only review was of Gina Rollins. Two different persons. If your only objecton to this review is because it is fake, then I totally understand and support you. But you kept mentioning you derserved a better score than 7 and that certainly didn't help your cause.

Show me where I said I deserved a better score? Show me that.

You have got a case of poor reading comprehension skills. I said the 7 looks like a sore thumb in a list of 9s, as it is. Yes,  I said that, and the inference, which I plainly spelled out, is that it is out of character for this particular provider. That is one of the criteria that the admin allegedly uses to discern fake reviews. So is the CBJ for that matter.  

I did say that, yes, the 7 bothers me because it makes me look inconsistent, and damages my reputation but I did not say or imply that is my reason for objecting to having this fake review on my profile. I want it removed because it never happened. And I never used the word "deserved." I didn't deserve ANY review from this person, period.  

I brought up the glasses, etc, because this jerk off portrays me in a  way that it is not at all like me. And neither is that 7 for that  matter. Out of character. A pack of lies.  

 

And ALL fake reviews should be removed, and that, along with my frustration at seemingly not being able to alert admin appear to be the points of my original post. I never said I deserved anything other than if you want to infer that I deserve to have my profile left the hell alone by fake reviewers.  

As for who Jrockie  is, I don't know. I believe I tried to type Jrockies because that is the author of the fake review on my profile. Perhaps this Jrockies person is trying to muddy up the waters for the other person known as Jrockie. I do not know. What I do know is that this meeting never took place, and I'd appreciate if you used some critical reading skills. ALL FAKE reviews need to be removed because they harm the entire community. Is that clear enough for you? One of the things that can give away a fake areview is something that is out of character for the  particular provider who is the subject of the fake review. In this case, there are lots of them, including that 7. And anyone who knows me can tell you I won't do the things notedin that review, including the snippet about playing games with my expensive prescription glasses. OUT OF CHARACTER.  

Posted By: AsianManNOVA
JRockies wrote the review in question, while the thread in your post was referring to JRockie whose only review was of Gina Rollins. Two different persons. If your only objecton to this review is because it is fake, then I totally understand and support you. But you kept mentioning you derserved a better score than 7 and that certainly didn't help your cause.
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You are also wrong about the names. I NEVER used the wrong name. I used only Jrockies. You wrote "the thread in your post was referring to Jrockie …." and you are wrong.

Read the OP. I used Jrockies.

You're wrong on every point you tried to make.

But now that Iknow there is someone known as Jrockie, does't that strike anyone else as, "Gee,maybe this Jrockies creep is trying to spoof Jrockie"? That's what it looks like to me,when someone has a name that close. But I used and spelled the name correctly of the creep who says he saw me but did not.  

Posted By: AsianManNOVA
JRockies wrote the review in question, while the thread in your post was referring to JRockie whose only review was of Gina Rollins. Two different persons. If your only objecton to this review is because it is fake, then I totally understand and support you. But you kept mentioning you derserved a better score than 7 and that certainly didn't help your cause.

AsianManNOVA746 reads

I wrote, "JRockies wrote the review in question." The link you provided in your post was referring to JRockie. Remember? You attached a link to a thread titled "JRockies is questioned as untruthful reviewer" in the OP. The thread was actually referring to JRockie. I was referring to that thread. In a way, I am glad you posted this thread. It tells a lot about a provider whenever she posts this kind of thread. I can see a train wreck coming.

I am man enough to admit when I am wrong. You are absolutely correct in that the person named on the Boston board is Jrockie, without the S on the end of it. MEA CULPA

And you look at that thread, you will see I have apologized if I have gotten that person's name wrong and mixed up in this mess.  

Now how about what you said? Where did I say I DESERVE something better than a 7? I never used that word because I don't deserve anything from this Jrockies character other than to have m profile left alone and free of fake reviews. The 7 is out of character and so is the comment about my glasses and how he portrayed me as being submissive. Out of character is out of character.

and ALL fake reviews should be removed. They present a danger to the community as a whole. There are very serious criminals out there who would seek to harm any provider, and writing fake reviews is one way that some people will seek to get legitimized in the community. Not to mention LE.  

ALL fake reviews should be reviewed. I DESERVE to have my profile left alone, not tampered with as it has been.

I've admitted where I was wrong. And I've apologized.

Where is yours?

MikeShanahan725 reads

Coming????? He'll the train has imploded. Big time.  

Posted By: AsianManNOVA
I wrote, "JRockies wrote the review in question." The link you provided in your post was referring to JRockie. Remember? You attached a link to a thread titled "JRockies is questioned as untruthful reviewer" in the OP. The thread was actually referring to JRockie. I was referring to that thread. In a way, I am glad you posted this thread. It tells a lot about a provider whenever she posts this kind of thread. I can see a train wreck coming.

Oh please. I have enough integrity to admit when I have made a mistake.

Look, if you go back to the original post, you'll that my main issue was "how do I get this reported to admin, beucase it is not going through.?"

That was the main point of the post.

Do I like having a fake review? No, I do not. You are not a woman, not a provider so you cannot know what it feels like.  

And aside from that is the fact that bad people do things like write false reviews to build up credibility in this community and some women are vulnerable. Guys like, oh, say Chris Griffen who has harmed many women. And there are countless other bad people out there who have bad motives. Or maybe the motive for the fake is just to get free VIP for a few days. Who knows ?the guy has not replied to me.

But whatever. If you want to say my train has crashed, so be it. You're no one to me, either dear. And this why I generally avoid these boards. You can't even think up your own comment to insult this woman, can you? As I said, whatever.  

Fake reviews should be removed. They present a danger to the community, and the foul the whole system up for all of us. That is not a train wreck statement. That is the truth.  

Okay?

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MikeShanahan948 reads

Thanks for proving my point. I wonder how many lists you've been scratched off due to all the rants you've posted here? Not to speak of your time. Good luck.  

Posted By: DianaFletcher
Oh please. I have enough integrity to admit when I have made a mistake.  
   
 Look, if you go back to the original post, you'll that my main issue was "how do I get this reported to admin, beucase it is not going through.?"  
   
 That was the main point of the post.  
   
 Do I like having a fake review? No, I do not. You are not a woman, not a provider so you cannot know what it feels like.  
   
 And aside from that is the fact that bad people do things like write false reviews to build up credibility in this community and some women are vulnerable. Guys like, oh, say Chris Griffen who has harmed many women. And there are countless other bad people out there who have bad motives. Or maybe the motive for the fake is just to get free VIP for a few days. Who knows ?the guy has not replied to me.  
   
 But whatever. If you want to say my train has crashed, so be it. You're no one to me, either dear. And this why I generally avoid these boards. You can't even think up your own comment to insult this woman, can you? As I said, whatever.  
   
 Fake reviews should be removed. They present a danger to the community, and the foul the whole system up for all of us. That is not a train wreck statement. That is the truth.  
   
 Okay?  

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